Keep my 850 evo as boot drive or upgrade?

WatEagle · Feb 9, 2021

Hi all, in the recent times I started wondering to buy a nvme ssd to change my Samsung 850 evo m2, connected via a m2 to sata converter.
The main reason is to have faster boot times and load stuff like davinci more quickly

Is it the right time to upgrade or should I just stick with it?
Also do you have any suggestions about a good nvme that doesn't cost a fortune? I was aiming for a 970 evo plus or something similar but prices are high.....

DeathtoGnomes · Feb 9, 2021

No. connecting an NVME drive to Sata means you are still being limited to Sata speeds.

Jetster · Feb 9, 2021

Its a little faster but not that noticeable. If you can go to a larger drive it would be a good upgrade but otherwise no

WatEagle · Feb 9, 2021

DeathtoGnomes said:
No. connecting an NVME drive to Sata means you are still being limited to Sata speeds.

but i have the slot

Jetster said:
Its a little faster but not that noticeable. If you can go to a larger drive it would be a good upgrade but otherwise no

to me comparing that with a medicore nvme that I have on my laptop (wd sn530) is noticeably faster, at least in booting tims. it's like 3 seconds vs 15

Jetster · Feb 9, 2021

WatEagle said:
but i have the slot
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to me comparing that with a medicore nvme that I have on my laptop (wd sn530) is noticeably faster, at least in booting tims. it's like 3 seconds vs 15

It's another reason then. I've upgraded quite a few and its maybe a few seconds faster if that. The board and software is a bigger factor on boot times
But if you want to then just do it

P4-630 · Feb 9, 2021

I was on windows 8.1 on a samsung 850 pro 512GB before and then bought a NVMe PCIe drive and installed windows 10 on it, glad that I did.

Vya Domus · Feb 9, 2021

NVME drives wont really get you faster boot times, buy one if you actually need the higher read/write speeds.

WatEagle · Feb 9, 2021

ok so any suggestions on which one to take?

ThrashZone · Feb 9, 2021

Hi,
Evo is a good data drive pro is a good os drive seeing read and write speeds are more equal.
I do have a evo plus is okay ended up getting one after returning 3 adata 8200 pro that none of them came close to advertising read/ write spec's
970 evo plus along with all sammy ssd's exceeded spec's

WatEagle · Feb 9, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Evo is a good data drive pro is a good os drive seeing read and write speeds are more equal.
I do have a evo plus is okay ended up getting one after returning 3 adata 8200 pro that none of them came close to advertising read/ write spec's
970 evo plus along with all sammy ssd's exceeded spec's

sabrent is also popular and wd black is about the same price of the 970 evo plus. Opinions about these two?

ThrashZone · Feb 9, 2021

Hi,
Gigabyte has some interesting ones seeing they are pci-e 4 compatible
Had to look back and find my 970 evo plus CDM test they do run warm

RJARRRPCGP · Feb 9, 2021

WatEagle said:
but i have the slot
View attachment 187644

to me comparing that with a medicore nvme that I have on my laptop (wd sn530) is noticeably faster, at least in booting tims. it's like 3 seconds vs 15

B450 Tomahawks are confirmed to have NVMe support. I would go for NVMe!
You likely have to move that standoff on the left, which is for the M.2 screw! Installing NVMe SSDs are tricky, because of the M.2 screw!

WatEagle said:
sabrent is also popular and wd black is about the same price of the 970 evo plus. Opinions about these two?

I recommend the 970 Evo Plus.

WatEagle · Feb 9, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Gigabyte has some interesting ones seeing they are pci-e 4 compatible
Had to look back and find my 970 evo plus CDM test they do run warm
View attachment 187658

that's only 6 times faster.... BIG JUMP

ThrashZone · Feb 9, 2021

WatEagle said:
that's only 6 times faster.... BIG JUMP

Hi,
Yeah
When testing use hwinfo too it shows read/ write also and is good to confirm that CDM or what ever is also showing the same read/ write speeds after a test as it does
You'd be surprise how inconsistent ssd test software are
Don't bother with "as ssd" it's a total waste of time using it.

Here's a current run I only really care about main read/ write QDM along with other testing software as I said is wonky at best lol
Notice the C partition is only 130gb's too 500gb 970 evo plus

Jetster · Feb 9, 2021

Samsung 970 EVO 1 Tb

Intel 665p Series M.2 1 Tb

WatEagle · Feb 19, 2021

So quick update, a friend of mine has a discount on samung's website so i'm gonna pick the 970 evo plus 500gb.

then the most annoying part... should I just clone my current windows installation from one ssd to another or just reinstall it?

Jetster · Feb 19, 2021

WatEagle said:
So quick update, a friend of mine has a discount on samung's website so i'm gonna pick the 970 evo plus 500gb.

then the most annoying part... should I just clone my current windows installation from one ssd to another or just reinstall it?

If its a good install with no issues go ahead and clone it with the Samsung Data Migration software. You can always clean install later. You do not need a new license to clean install

WatEagle · Feb 19, 2021

Jetster said:
If its a good install with no issues go ahead and clone it with the Samsung Data Migration software. You can always clean install later. You do not need a new license to clean install

Really good news, this one is one of the cleanest installation I've ever done

Jetster · Feb 19, 2021

Samsung Data Migration software is easy to use and I've never had a bad clone with it
And I was a die hard clean install guy for years

WatEagle · Feb 19, 2021

Jetster said:
Samsung Data Migration software is easy to use and I've never had a bad clone with it
And I was a die hard clean install guy for years

Probably i'm gonna go with it

TheLostSwede · Feb 19, 2021

Do check and see which size of whatever drive you're getting gives the best performance, as smaller size SSDs tend to be slower, sometimes significantly so.

WatEagle · Feb 19, 2021

TheLostSwede said:
Do check and see which size of whatever drive you're getting gives the best performance, as smaller size SSDs tend to be slower, sometimes significantly so.

just a regular 2280
Should I also buy a heatsink for it or am I just good to go as it arrives?

Jetster · Feb 19, 2021

WatEagle said:
just a regular 2280
Should I also buy a heatsink for it or am I just good to go as it arrives?

You don't need one

TheLostSwede · Feb 19, 2021

WatEagle said:
just a regular 2280
Should I also buy a heatsink for it or am I just good to go as it arrives?

Not the physical size, the amount of flash.
Each SSD or at least controller generation there's a certain size where you get the optimal performance.
Once you go below that, performance drops significantly and once you go above it, it drops a little bit.

jboydgolfer · Feb 19, 2021

WatEagle said:
to have faster boot times and load stuff like davinci more quickly

over traditional SSD, boot times wont be that much different. nVme SSD's are good , but they have a place. IMO if the only deciding factor for going nVme is speed increase, id suggest to just buy a Sata SSD, like an 860, or whatever the modern model is. in my PC now, i have an 850 Evo & a 970 Evo, they arent really much different, outside of bench tests ofc.

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