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Logitech Gaming G11 vs Saitek Eclipse II

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Hi. I am going to buy a new keyboard because mine is quite old and all gue. So i am considering these 2 products.

Logitech Gaming G11 and Saitek Eclipse II
(oh don't suggest me the G15 :) )
I saw the Saitek eclipse 2 vs g15 thread but i would still like to know. Because g15 is quite different from g11

Their price is about the same.The g11 got a nice price cut so now it is even cheaper than saitek eclipse 2. And i can't decided which i should buy.
So i would like to hear your opinions which is better.
thx.
 
i cant speak for the G11, but i love my eclipse II.

Saitek Eclipse II is a keyboard for gamers who just want an old skool layout with LED backlights - it takes a beating, but it doesnt have the fancy crap like other keyboards with the G keys and LCD displays.
 
Yeah, if you want a standard keyboard but a gamers version, that feels awesome, the saitek eclipse or eclipse II is for you, i own the first one but my brother has the 2nd one and there rather similar. :toast:
 
see my posts in this thread. like Mussels I would probably choose the Saitek.
 
i've mine for over a year now, with heavy daily use, its also been in my car boot 2-3 times a month with LAN events. the things just built tough.

i dont know about the G11, but i've had a few logitech keyboards break on me fairly easily (mostly cordless models, i dont know if its relevant)
 
I only chose Saitek because they don't market tactile response or use any other marketing gimmick it's a simple keyboard and inexpensive. however if you want a real gaming keyboard see that thread I posted I think 2 models I listed are under $70
 
I'd say go with whichever you prefer the looks of. I love my two G15's but I also like the saitek's its a matter of personal opinion really.
 
The Logi offers something other than fancy lights, 'nuff said.
 
Logitech keyboards have poor build quality and there is probably a large percentage of the population on this forum that own the G15 and don't use the G Keys, if you need G Keys look to your right there is a unused keypad.

ABS M1, iOne Scorpius M10, Gigabyte GK-K8000, Das Ultimate Keyboard (my baby), SteelSeries 6G/7G, Filco Majestouch and Deck Legend. these are real gaming keyboards comparing these to Logitech, Razer and Saitek is like comparing a optical to a laser engine. some are inexpensive while most are expensive but the important thing is performance you will get your moneys worth.
 
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BumbleBee said:
Logitech keyboards have poor build quality and there is probably a large percentage of the population on this forum that own the G15 and don't use the G Keys, if you need G Keys look to your right there is a unused keypad.
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Actually out of all the logitech keyboards I have and my friend has about 8 between us they are all excellent build quality. To say all logitech keyboards have poor build quality is quite a statement. Even cheap £5 keyboards last a long time, I've still got my first ever keyboard and it works.
 
it is quite a statement I realize that if you don't believe me go to G15Forums.com, Mechanical Keyboards are built to take a beating they use thermoplastic key caps, laser etched numbers/letters, gold plated connectors and mechanical switches. one of the problems is we analyze Power Supplies down to the Capacitors and Solder Job, Video Cards down to the Memory yet when it comes to Keyboards they are very overlooked it's "G15 or Lycosa"

there is 5 kinds of switches 1) Plastic Dome 2) Rubber Dome 3) Buckling Spring 4) Scissor and 5) Mechanical

Logitech and Razer keyboards use Plastic and Rubber Dome Switches they are extremely inexpensive and slow the only benefit they have is silence. so your going to be paying $60-100 (depending on where you live) for a keyboard that uses the same Plastic or Rubber Dome Switches in their $10 models this is important as Mechanical Switches (Cherry MX, ALPS) are considerably faster and have a MTBF rating of ten fold. another factor is how many keys you can press at once what connection you are using USB or PS/2? USB can only handle 6 simultaneous keys pressed at once PS/2 is unlimited.
 
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Logitech keyboards have poor build quality and there is probably a large percentage of the population on this forum that own the G15 and don't use the G Keys, if you need G Keys look to your right there is a unused keypad.
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I have to say I have the G15 ( LOVE IT ) and do not use the g keys in gaming I do use them for internet browsing and some windows applications though .

To say that it is of poor quality is far from the truth Logitech key boards have always proven to be of high quality to me .
 
If the eclipse II's are anything like my Original Eclipse, then id get one without a second thought. My G15 was nice but felt too large and flimsy, I can only assume the G11 would be similar minus the flippy screen.
 
BumbleBee said:
it is quite a statement I realize that if you don't believe me go to G15Forums.com one of the problems is we analyze Power Supplies down to the Capacitors and Solder Job, Video Cards down to the Memory yet when it comes to Keyboards they are very overlooked it's "G15 or Lycosa"

there is 5 kinds of switches 1) Plastic Dome 2) Rubber Dome 3) Buckling Spring 4) Scissor and 5) Mechanical

Logitech and Razer keyboards use Plastic and Rubber Dome Switches they are extremely inexpensive and slow the only benefit they have is silence. so your going to be paying $60-100 (depending on where you live) for a keyboard that uses the same Plastic or Rubber Dome Switches in their $10 models this is important as Mechanical Switches (Cherry MX, ALPS) are considerably faster and have a MTBF rating of ten fold. another factor is how many keys you can press at once what connection you are using USB or PS/2? USB can only handle 6 simultaneous keys pressed at once PS/2 is unlimited.

Mechanical Keyboards are built to take a beating they use thermoplastic key caps, laser etched numbers/letters, gold plated connectors and premium switches.
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So the Panasonic telephone I have has rubber dome switches and I have had the thing for 7 years now so what are you getting at ? Any thing that has rubber dome switches is of poor build quality ? NO you are far off base just about EVERY single key board sold in the stores today are of the same make when it comes to key boards it is rubber domes I have yet to see a mechanical key board sold in best buy ! And one more thing how many keys can you press at one time any way ? is it not one at a time ? other than Ctrl+Alt+Del...
 
i'm not talking about about a telephone. Mechanical Switches are used in industrial products for the public or government. best buy is one store. you can get the ABS M1 off Newegg, iOne Scorpius M10 off Amazon, Gigabyte GK-K8000 off NCIX, Das Ultimate Keyboard off their Website, SteelSeries 6/7G off Newegg, Amazon and Best Buy, Filco Majestouch off EliteKeyboards and Deck Legend off their website. actually it's plastic domes that is majority used rubber domes are used in the Logitech DiNovo and G19. everything I have said is a fact people are just getting c*nty because they don't want to hear it. my Das Ultimate Keyboard leaves your Logitech G15 in the dust.
 
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i'm not talking about about a telephone. Mechanical Switches are used in industrial products for the public or government. best buy is one store you can get the ABS M1 off Newegg, iOne Scorpius M10 off Amazon, Gigabyte GK-K8000 off NCIX, Das Ultimate Keyboard off their Website, SteelSeries 6/7G off Newegg and Amazon, Filco Majestouch off EliteKeyboards and Deck Legend off their website. actually it's plastic domes that is majority used rubber domes are used in the Logitech DiNovo and G19.
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No but what you are saying is that the logitech because of the material use is of poor quality and I am stating for a fact that you are WRONG . I have yet to have any problems what so ever with any of the logitech key boards I have and let me see I have had one of them for 8 yeas now . so I just can not see what you point is . I have never had any key board EVER go out on me I have however had to change my keyboards because of out dated connections .
Again just stop saying that Logitechs are of poor quality as SOME OF US FEEL THEY ARE TO THE CONTRARY .
OH BTW a PHONE has a key board so what is the difference in your logic ?
 
There's nothing wrong with rubber dome caps though. I agree I prefer mechanical for the feel they give but rubber works fine.
 
it does have poor build quality, cheap led, cheap plastic key caps, cheap plastic housing, painted numbers/letters, plastic domes, inexpensive lcd that you need to download additional profiles for older games.

you know what I have never had to RMA a single product in my life I have built at least 25 systems in 14-15 years I guess some people are lucky, some people don't have problems with Razer products yet some people have agonizing experience with their drivers or build quality issues same goes for Logitech or any other company.
 
If i press the key and the letter appaers on the screen,then for me its fine,i dont care if its metal,rubber or a monkey in there.I have a G15 and love it,the screen for me is so useful.
 
tigger said:
If i press the key and the letter appaers on the screen,then for me its fine,i dont care if its metal,rubber or a monkey in there.I have a G15 and love it,the screen for me is so useful.
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+! I love mine as well I use Everset and set all the temps on the first 2 screens and speeds and usage for the next 2 this thing is the best !

I guess it all comes down to what you like and since I like the G15 well you know where I stand .
 
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Actually out of all the logitech keyboards I have and my friend has about 8 between us they are all excellent build quality. To say all logitech keyboards have poor build quality is quite a statement. Even cheap £5 keyboards last a long time, I've still got my first ever keyboard and it works.
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I agree, I can name about 30 G11 or G15 users that game constantly (2 to 4hrs a day average) and have done so over several years and none of us have had any issues with the keyboard itself. I will say a couple of the guys have had LCD readout quirks with the G15s but that is another story. I do use the G keys and they are a great help if you admin a server where you need commands some what repeatedly. i also like the fact that the keys are quiet, it has a switch to turn the Win key off, and the keys fit my large hands/fingers. I personally cannot comment on the Eclipse out of our clan of over 100 members I know 1 guy that had one and he doesn't play much.
As far as the Logitech forum having a lot of complaints that is what 90% of mfg forums are used for. Its not like here at TPU where people go to hang out. But if you consider the vast # of G series keyboards sold that forum shows a low % failure rate. And most of those are on the LCD readout not the G11. The fact they are still available today should also prove they are a very worthy piece of hardware or I doubt they would be continuing the name/line of product.
One last note if you do find a deal on the Logitech with a MIR I can vouch for them being one of the quickest about honoring them.

Good luck with your choice as I personally would try to find one of each to put my hands on and see what was more comfortable if features did not decide it for you. :toast:
 
thats fine, you can use whatever keyboard you want i'm not putting a gun to anybody's head i'm trying to educate, people stop new builders in threads from purchasing product A and recommending product B because it gives better performance it's the same thing I am doing don't you think you should research before dropping $60-200 on a keyboard? and to answer trickson question about pushing more than 6 keys simultaneously some games you need this (button mashers?) others you don't my Das Ultimate added 10-15 extra WPM to my count. Mechanical Keyboards go all the way back to the IBM Model M which used a buckling spring.
 
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thats fine, you can use whatever keyboard you want i'm not putting a gun to anybody's head i'm trying to educate, people stop new builders in threads from purchasing product A and recommending product B because it gives better performance it's the same thing I am doing don't you think you should research before dropping $60-200 on a keyboard? and to answer trickson question about pushing more than 6 buttons simultaneously some games you need this (button mashers?) others you don't my Das Ultimate added 10-15 extra WPM to my count. Mechanical Keyboards go all the way back to the IBM Model M which used a buckling spring.
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All I am saying is that Logitech is of high quality and you are not . you stated they are of poor quality and really have nothing to back your statement up with . I see it like this if some thing is as you say of poor quality then I would see things like the parts not working some sorta break down and well I am not seeing this in any Logitech and to prevent some one from getting a Logitech key board just because you " FEEL " they are of a poor quality is really just wrong . I have never ran into a time were I had to press more than 8 keys at a time in any game and well I only have 10 fingers and there is only so much I can do with them at any one time any way .. At any rate if I was the OP get the one that makes you feel good as well they both are of GOOD QUALITY !
 
I own a G11 and i'm quite satisfied. People who do not use the "G-Keys" are to lazy to record their own macros. Those G-Keys are not limited to certain games. They can be used for all kinds of other software. Office anyone?
 
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