Looking to Upgrade Graphics Card...

ProCeLLx · May 22, 2023

Currently I have:

A320M-A PRO MAX - Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 5 3350G with Radeon Vega Graphics (3599MHz) x4
AMD Radeon(TM) RX Vega 11 Graphics 27.20.11044.7 (2048MB) x1
16GB - RAM

What can I get in terms of Graphics Cards for the above?

Thanks!

Shou Miko · May 22, 2023

What is your budget and what PSU do you have?

Your current CPU only have 12 PCI-E lanes if I remember correctly and will provide 4 or 8 to a dedicate graphics card so I would upgrade the cpu to one without graphics either a used or new 3000 or 5000 series depending on your budget to get the best out of your graphics card you are planning to buy.

AMF · May 22, 2023

prob a gtx 1080- or gtx 2060

P4-630 · May 22, 2023

AMF said:
gtx 2060

Does not exist.

RTX 2060 you mean.

Not sure if you can still buy them new.

Better to get a new RTX 3xxx or RTX 4xxx series GPU.

AMF · May 22, 2023

Shou Miko said:
What is your budget and what PSU do you have?

Your current CPU only have 12 PCI-E lanes if I remember correctly and will provide 4 or 8 to a dedicate graphics card so I would upgrade the cpu to one without graphics either a used or new 3000 or 5000 series depending on your budget to get the best out of your graphics card you are planning to buy.

are they dedicated lanes or can he turn it off and free them up?

Shou Miko · May 22, 2023

AMF said:
are they dedicated lanes or can he turn it off and free them up?

The APU has a total of 12 pci-e lanes.
4 lanes goes to the m.2. slot, and it looks like another 4 pci-e 3.0 lanes to the A320 chipset if the drawing from Anandtech is true so it will be only 4x for the graphics card :fear:

I am not sure how AMD scales the chipset lanes from 4.0 to 3.0 so if op is lucky he might get 8 lanes to the graphic card but I am not sure.

ProCeLLx · May 22, 2023

Shou Miko said:
What is your budget and what PSU do you have?

Your current CPU only have 12 PCI-E lanes if I remember correctly and will provide 4 or 8 to a dedicate graphics card so I would upgrade the cpu to one without graphics either a used or new 3000 or 5000 series depending on your budget to get the best out of your graphics card you are planning to buy.

Budget is ok, just looking to get something decent to compliment my monitor (AOC C27G2ZU/BK 27") / PSU 500W

Shou Miko · May 22, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
Budget is ok, just looking to get something decent to compliment my monitor (AOC C27G2ZU/BK 27") / PSU 500W

Do you play any games? Because freesync should work on your onboard graphics too.

500W depending on the model will vary what it will allow you to have fun with.

As @P4-630 thinks used RTX 3000 or lower end AMD RX 6000 series depending on your needs because again what will the point be in a better cpu, psu and a graphics card then I will say make another build.

P4-630 · May 22, 2023

Shou Miko said:
As @P4-630 thinks used RTX 3000

Actually I mentioned new, personally I never buy used computer hardware but whatever floats your boat...

ProCeLLx · May 22, 2023

Shou Miko said:
Do you play any games? Because freesync should work on your onboard graphics too.

500W depending on the model will vary what it will allow you to have fun with.

As @P4-630 thinks used RTX 3000 or lower end AMD RX 6000 series depending on your needs because again what will the point be in a better cpu, psu and a graphics card then I will say make another build.

Yea, I play a lot of Total War etc. but tried to get GTA, Apex and it laaaaagggss.

P4-630 · May 22, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
Yea, I play a lot of Total War etc. but tried to get GTA, Apex and it laaaaagggss.

Yeah, more power needed then, new CPU/GPU.

damric · May 22, 2023

That PSU...

ProCeLLx · May 22, 2023

P4-630 said:
Yeah, more power needed then, new CPU/GPU.

looking into a bit more I think the max I can get on what I have is the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060...

damric said:
That PSU...

its awesome aint it!...standard what came with the system...

tussinman · May 22, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
looking into a bit more I think the max I can get on what I have is the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060...

New vs New in most countries the RX 6600 is the same price as the 2060 but uses 25% less power and has performance on par with the 2070.

If you didn't want to touch your CPU or power supply then RX 6600 would be a good drop in upgrade. Your gaming performance at 1080p would go from a 2 out of 10 to like an 8. Power consumption would be very manageable as well (even in gaming I doubt you go over 200 watts total system load and even if you did peak over 200 it wouldn't be by much)

Older esports titles you should easily be 100+ FPS and slower modern single player-based AAA titles you should still get like 70-90FPS range at 1080p high (not very high) settings.

Marcus L · May 22, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
looking into a bit more I think the max I can get on what I have is the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060...

its awesome aint it!...standard what came with the system...

It's not ideal though for the class of GPU you are looking at it should be "ok" obviously I can't vouch for the long-term reliability of said PSU so YMMV

ProCeLLx · May 22, 2023

tussinman said:
New vs New in most countries the RX 6600 is the same price as the 2060 but uses 25% less power and has performance on par with the 2070.

If you didn't want to touch your CPU or power supply then RX 6600 would be a good drop in upgrade. Your gaming performance at 1080p would go from a 2 out of 10 to like an 8. Power consumption would be very manageable as well (even in gaming I doubt you go over 200 watts total system load and even if you did peak over 200 it wouldn't be by much)

Older esports titles you should easily be 100+ FPS and slower modern single player-based AAA titles you should still get like 70-90FPS range at 1080p high (not very high) settings.

Thanks!...Ive seen a Radeon RX 550 4G that I like the look of

tussinman · May 22, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
Thanks!...Ive seen a Radeon RX 550 4G that I like the look of

Don't buy it. It was a low-end card in 2017.

It's actually not much faster than the integrated GPU that's built into your CPU that's how low-end it is.

I'd be looking at cards in the 200-250 pound range like this

PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 8GB Fighter Graphics Card | Ebuyer.com

Ruru · May 22, 2023

tussinman said:
Don't buy it. It was a low-end card in 2017.

It's actually not much faster than the integrated GPU that's built into your CPU that's how low-end it is.

I'd be looking at cards in the 200-250 pound range like this

PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 8GB Fighter Graphics Card | Ebuyer.com

I was also going to recommend a RX 6600 but you were faster.

droopyRO · May 22, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
Yea, I play a lot of Total War etc. but tried to get GTA, Apex and it laaaaagggss.

Warhammer or the older historical titles ? For Warhammer i suggest you get at least a RX 6600 if you play at 1080p. And a Ryzen 5600. A good 550-650W PSU, unless that 500W you already have is a good one. Update de BIOS on that motherboard and you are good to go for 1080p High settings.

Ruru · May 22, 2023

droopyRO said:
Warhammer or the older historical titles ? For Warhammer i suggest you get at least a RX 6600 if you play at 1080p. And a Ryzen 5600. A good 550-650W PSU, unless that 500W you already have is a good one. Update de BIOS on that motherboard and you are good to go for 1080p High settings.

R5 5600 would be a great upgrade for that platform. The OP's board isn't great, but that chip isn't a power hungry one.

eidairaman1 · May 25, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
Thanks!...Ive seen a Radeon RX 550 4G that I like the look of

Do not waste your time, fyi buying used gpus is playing craps with your money.

I see many rx 580 2048sp models here needing a bios restoration, go for a RX 5600 and call it a day...

Lost_Troll · May 26, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
Thanks!...Ive seen a Radeon RX 550 4G that I like the look of

No, that is a bad card for the cost of it. With your supply and CPU combo, I would go with a RX 6600 and it will only set you back 190.00 pounds.

Link: Choose A Video Card - PCPartPicker

It will be good enough for the games you play, and it will give you a good card to start with if you decide to build a new PC.

Added:
If your budget is really that tight that a RX 550 looks like a good deal, then I would look at the RX 6500. It is faster and is only 139.00 pounds. Though with less VRAM, it will not beable to play games in high video settings and some games now require no less then 6Gb of VRAM to play.

Link: Choose A Video Card - PCPartPicker

sLowEnd · May 27, 2023

ProCeLLx said:
its awesome aint it!...standard what came with the system...

If it really is this thing

...I would suggest you get a new PSU before thinking of any upgrade. Heck, maybe get a new PSU even if you don't upgrade. That PSU looks sketchy as hell.

RDNAuser · May 28, 2023

RX 6600 XT.

GerKNG · May 28, 2023

a used RX 6600. and a cheap but new and from a known brand PSU.

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Looking to Upgrade Graphics Card...

ProCeLLx

Shou Miko

AMF

P4-630

AMF

Shou Miko

ProCeLLx

Shou Miko

P4-630

ProCeLLx

P4-630

damric

ProCeLLx

tussinman

Marcus L

ProCeLLx

tussinman

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

droopyRO

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

Lost_Troll

sLowEnd

RDNAuser

GerKNG

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