Memtest giving 500+ errors! Plus, memory_management bsod!

[winterwonderland]

I got my additional brand new 2x4gb kingston value 2133mhz cl15 pieces today (i had 2 of these from before), but when i installed them, i first got a bsod that said memory_management something. I then tried to update my gpu drivers to see if that helped, but nope. I got another bsod, but it went past me so fast that i only saw "default" something..

So. Im now trying to run memtest86 to see what is wrong (with all 4 memory sticks in place), and it turns out it is giving me waaay too many errors!! Im at pass 1 and the count says well over 500 errors already!

So....my new memory sticks are broken/not working, huh?

Because before i got my new sticks, it was running smoothly with no bsod!

What should i do now? Hoe do i fix this?

If you look at this photo, you will see that my new sticks are in the memory brackets 1 and 3 from the left, while my older ones are in brackets 2 and 4:


Here you can see them errors i have so far:


Do i return these sticks back or what?

 

[jboydgolfer]

try running this memory tool that @W1zzard posted.

you could also try removing all but a single stick & test them one at a time....there may be a culprit Ram stick...

 

[erocker]

Is XMP set and is voltage set properly?

 

[winterwonderland]

try running this memory tool that @W1zzard posted.

you could also try removing all but a single stick & test them one at a time....there may be a culprit Ram stick...

I will do that after this memtest is over.

Is XMP set and is voltage set properly?

Hmm good question. I just plugged them in and that is all i have done so far. I wonder where in the bios i can see/find that on my b150m-a motherboard.. i guess it is pretty straight forward. I will see what i can figure out. Thanks for the suggestions.

 

[jboydgolfer]

Additionally to the questions posted above are they the exact same memory kits or are they different types and if so it would be good to see exactly which models they are

 

[OneMoar]

ram is bad rma it
timings are fine voltage is probly on auto but that kit is a 1.2v kit
swap the old sticks with the new sticks see if the core changes in memtest
could be imc/motherboard but unlikely with that many errors in the first pass

if he bought the wrong kit the bios should default to the lowest common denominator speed/timings but its running at rated for that kit

 

[winterwonderland]

Hmm.. so my dram frequency was set to auto. Shall i try to set it on ddr4 2133mhz or?

What should my DRAM VOLTAGE be for my ddr4 RAM?

Apparently, my asus b150m-a does not have XMP ...

All 4 sticks are identical, yes:

 

[OneMoar]

Hmm.. so my dram frequency was set to auto. Shall i try to set it on ddr4 2133mhz or?

What should my DRAM VOLTAGE be for my ddr4 RAM?

Apparently, my asus b150m-a does not have XMP ...

All 4 sticks are identical, yes:
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its already running at 2133~ timings look good and unless the board is way way undervolting it or way way over volting its not that
the ram is just bad

 

[winterwonderland]

its already running at 2133~ timings look good and unless the board is way way undervolting it or way way over volting its not that
the ram is just bad

Ok, so i should just revert to my old sticks and send the new ones back to the store, or?

What about the voltage? Should i change that, perhaps?

 

[OneMoar]

Ok, so i should just revert to my old sticks and send the new ones back to the store, or?

What about the voltage? Should i change that, perhaps?

send the new ones back and get replacements honestly it might be less of a headache to just get a completely different two stick kit and toss/resell whats in there now
that kit looks pretty janky the timings are pretty high for 2133

 

[winterwonderland]

send the new ones back and get replacements honestly it might be less of a headache to just get a completely different two stick kit and toss/resell whats in there now
that kit looks pretty janky the timings are pretty high for 2133

Ill resend them back to get some new ones then. But is it true that my motherboard intel chipset only supports frequency up to 2133mhz and not 2400mhz?

 

[OneMoar]

Ill resend them back to get some new ones then. But is it true that my motherboard intel chipset only supports frequency up to 2133mhz and not 2400mhz?

officially the max is 2133,many times faster will work but usually not with 4 sticks only two

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Ill resend them back to get some new ones then. But is it true that my motherboard intel chipset only supports frequency up to 2133mhz and not 2400mhz?

I wouldnt put anything higher than 2133 into a B150 board. I also sure as hell would not put 4 sticks in it, unless the 4 sticks are from a 4 stick kit. Not 2 2 stick kits put together. I built a rig for my sisters boyfriend and did that just because 2 2 stick kits was a lot cheaper than the 4 stick kit thinking there wouldnt be a problem, but the B150 motherboard had to retrain the memory every time you boot the system up. I also dont recall there being a selection in the BIOS for XMP profiles.

Also the memory controller is on the CPU, and native support for Intel CPUs (except for cpus for the HEDT platform LGA 2011 V3, and i think Kaby Lake) is 2133. Anything over that, is considered an overclock according to the memory controller, even if you buy memory rated for higher than 2133.

 

[MrGenius]

What about the voltage? Should i change that, perhaps?

It says 1.2V on the stick shown in the pic. So if you can manually set it to 1.2V that might make a difference. It's worth a try at least.

 

[winterwonderland]

Ok, im bummed out then..

Sooo i will get my money back for these 2x4gb and sell/trash the other 2x4gb, then buy kingston 2x8gb ddr4 2133mhz pc1700 cl15 instead? No point for me to buy they hyperx ones as i cannot get 2400mhz anyway.. and im not planning any upgrades ok my motherboard in near future anyway.

 

[95Viper]

That motherboard does use XMP profiles.
And, those sticks seem to be on the QVL.

Did you try reseating all the sticks. Making sure they are seated properly.
Then boot into the BIOS setup. Load default settings. Save and reboot.

 

[MrGenius]

And, those sticks seem to be on the QVL.

I can't find them there. On the list are KVR21N15S8/4 and KVR21N15D8/8. He has KVR21N15S8K2/8.

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb...72.1568236026.1497987891-126686672.1497987891

 

[erocker]

In your bios, in "advanced mode" you should be able to see what voltage your RAM is running at in the "Hardware Monitor" in the right side of the screen.

 

[95Viper]

I can't find them there. On the list are KVR21N15S8/4 and KVR21N15D8/8. He has KVR21N15S8K2/8.

Yep, I musta had blurry vision or jumbled the numbers in the thought process.

 

[itsakjt]

Before returning, I would suggest you to remove the old sticks and put the new ones in the slots of the old ones (2nd and 4th slots from the left as you said). That way, you will know whether your new sticks are bad. If the system runs good and you get no errors, the problem lies somewhere else.
If you see that the RAMs are working fine in slots 2 and 4, try the same RAM in slots 1 and 3 and leave 2 and 4 blank. If you encounter errors, problem might be with board and/or IMC and/or poor contact with CPU and socket.

 

[eidairaman1]

Reset the cmos so nothing is overclocked, blpw out all dust from memory slots, ensure memory is in correct slots per motherboard manual and not backwards, fully inserted, boot system, save optimized defaults, run testing, then set the correct speed and voltage for modules.

 

[winterwonderland]

Before returning, I would suggest you to remove the old sticks and put the new ones in the slots of the old ones (2nd and 4th slots from the left as you said). That way, you will know whether your new sticks are bad. If the system runs good and you get no errors, the problem lies somewhere else.
If you see that the RAMs are working fine in slots 2 and 4, try the same RAM in slots 1 and 3 and leave 2 and 4 blank. If you encounter errors, problem might be with board and/or IMC and/or poor contact with CPU and socket.

Ok i will try doing so.

Reset the cmos so nothing is overclocked, blpw out all dust from memory slots, ensure memory is in correct slots per motherboard manual and not backwards, fully inserted, boot system, save optimized defaults, run testing, then set the correct speed and voltage for modules.

Speed is 2133mhz and voltage 1.2, yes?

And by resetting cmos, it means restoring bios to default values?

 

[jboydgolfer]

And by resetting cmos, it means restoring bios to default values?

Yes, it will return the bios to the way it came from the factory. What it does is wipe all memory so it defaults to what it was originally

 

[eidairaman1]

Yes, it will return the bios to the way it came from the factory. What it does is wipe all memory so it defaults to what it was originally

Exactly. That should eliminate most issues.

Op go to kingstons site and look for the correct voltage the ram is supposed to run at and set it.

 

[winterwonderland]

Going to try doing as you fellas say today.

For the sticks that i have, 1.2v seems to be the value i should set in the bios yes?