Need help in choosing graphics card!!!

[batman3009]

Im from Egypt,the asus gtx670 direct cu II top & sapphire hd 7970 oc 3 gb ddr5 dual-x got the same price,which one of them is the best?

 

[AsRock]

I'd get the ASUS one as it also comes with a 3 year warranty

 

[tacosRcool]

I'd go with the sapphire hd 7970 oc. It may be more noisy but with the right drivers it performs a bit better than the GTX 670

 

[Avelict]

If you're aiming strictly for performance, go with the 7970. It will give you better over pack headroom, and you don't have to mess with the auto boost that comes with Kepler cards.

 

[batman3009]

I'd go with the sapphire hd 7970 oc. It may be more noisy but with the right drivers it performs a bit better than the GTX 670

my old graphics card is hd 7850 & i update it from amd website,i dont know what does "right drivers" mean.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Bman, no intentions of insulting, but if you're struggling to understand even "right drivers", meaning some AMD drivers work better than others, vs just using the latest one, then you are not likely going to be better served by the 7970 as some are suggesting.

For one, you're only using a 23" display, which is likely no more than 1920x1080 res. Two, a 7970 besting a 670, esp a non Ghz model, requires careful over-volt OCing, which I'm not sure you're up to. Three, given that you were even considering a 7950, the 670, at just stock speeds using the built-in auto boost, would be plenty sufficient to run any game at 1920x1080.

Furthermore you won't have to worry about searching for the "right" driver, and the oft times hurry up and wait scenario when certain games don't work well at launch on AMD based cards, as with RAGE for instance. The 670 CAN be OCed too, just not over-volted. IMO if a GPU has to be over-volted to compete with it's closest competitor, it loses some of it's value, esp if it costs more to begin with.

Note that over-volting also involves running higher, louder fan settings as well, not to mention more heat build-up in your case.

 

[Hayder_Master]

welcome dear
same price = 7970 better performance for sure

 

[batman3009]

welcome dear
same price = 7970 better performance for sure

I got led monitor (1920x1080),Who is the best for that resolution (gtx670 or hd 7970)?

 

[Ev1LrYu]

I got led monitor (1920x1080),Who is the best for that resolution (gtx670 or hd 7970)?

Depends on the games you want to play. I have a 6970 (which is lower performance-wise than both cards) and I can play almost any game at 1920x1080 (LDC/LED does not make a difference if you are just talking framerate).

Go find reviews which include the games you want to play so you have an idea of what to expect.

ALSO, welcome to the forums. You may want to go to the User Control Panel and fill out your system specs - it help when asking for recommendations

 

[batman3009]

Depends on the games you want to play. I have a 6970 (which is lower performance-wise than both cards) and I can play almost any game at 1920x1080 (LDC/LED does not make a difference if you are just talking framerate).

Go find reviews which include the games you want to play so you have an idea of what to expect.

ALSO, welcome to the forums. You may want to go to the User Control Panel and fill out your system specs - it help when asking for recommendations

I play ultra high graphics games.

 

[Hilux SSRG]

you don't have to mess with the auto boost that comes with Kepler cards.

The nvidia boost feature isn't too complicated if you generally want to do a mild oc. AMD also offers their version of a "boost feature," so I guess both camps must learn to work with it.


OP, if you are looking for low temps, low noise and great performance, then the ASUS is your best bet.

 

[gopal]

HD 7970 for sure because it is better then GTX 670, and HD 7970 and all the 7000 series is know for Extreme oc so you can manage to get GTX 680 performence but i will say to wait till HD 7990 when t comes the prices will drop a bit then you may get a GTX 680

 

[Hilux SSRG]

HD 7970 for sure because it is better then GTX 670, and HD 7970 and all the 7000 series is know for Extreme oc so you can manage to get GTX 680 performence but i will say to wait till HD 7990 when t comes the prices will drop a bit then you may get a GTX 680

Please breakdown your thoughts into sentences, so that myself, the OP and others can understand what you are posting.


OP, did you decide what you're getting?

 

[Frag_Maniac]

If price is your concern then i think AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB listed for $369 is better option between two you have listed.

While that coupon code price (thru 8/15) is pretty good, the one customer review on it demonstrates what some of us have been saying...

"Got it on sale so cant complain about the value. It does run almost all games maxed out at 1920x1080 (BF3, MW3, Diablo III). However, this card is very loud! At 40% fan speed its already very loud! I now own both top end single GPU cards (both reference boards) from both the red and green sides. Both are essentially the same in performance at my resolution with vsync on (green side with the edge if you really want to know, but more expensive). The major difference is the fan noise. Either cards are fine, I would just recommend getting one with a custom cooler if you are going with the 7970."

Now that's likely without an OC, but again, the 670 can be OCed too, and will run quieter and cooler. Yes, you are voltage locked, but pit the best 670 against a 7970 and their OC results aren't going to be that different on a setup like his. That's assuming Bman even wants to over-volt to OC, he hasn't really said yet as far as I recall. Regardless, you over-volt and significantly OC a card that is already loud at stock settings, and you're asking for a hot tornado in your case. All that to get maybe a slight advantage on high mem use games at a res he won't even be using. So again, I question whether he'd even see the difference if any on the few games it might pull ahead on in other rigs with higher res disaplays.

I'm not trying to make this a green against red fanboy war, I just think it's best to take note that in an overall vs best case scenario for the 3GB 7970, the 670 still holds it's own, and is better driver and feature supported to boot.

 

[batman3009]

I found some one who sells gtx680 cheaper than other retailers,but i wanted to know if it will fit in my case(i got nzxt tempest evo case-asus p8z77 v pro-cooler master x6 cooling fan).Plz answer me because he got the last piece and i want to buy it.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

The NZXT Tempest EVO can fit a 5870, which is nearly 11" long. The 680 is only 10". The 7970 can range from 10.5"-11.5" btw. Another plus of Nvidia, they tend to fit cases better, esp the 28nm ones.

 

[Shou Miko]

the Asus GTX 670 DCII is actually a really nice card and fitting the Direct CU II to only take 2slots makes it even better, if they did that with the GTX 680 i think it would be more saleable and desirable for ppl bcs 3 slots may give better cooler but if even MSI's TwinFrozr perform awesome on the GTX 680 with only being a 2 slot cooler than i am sure that the Direct CU II will aswell.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

IMO it's not a good time to buy a 670 or 680. I would seriously wait until the soon to launch 660 Ti and see how it's price and performance compares. It could even cause both 670 and 680 to drop in price a bit. More likely the same price class AMD cards will drop first though.

 

[Shou Miko]

in my country the price that's out now for a GTX 660 Ti is to close to a GTX 670 but not much so i wouldn't take a GTX 660 Ti if that's the same for ur country ^^

 

[temp02]

Same price and about the same overall performance? Flip a coin and choose one, both are pretty good pieces of hardware for your setup.
Oh and after you made the purchase please do come back to this forum and post what you did got, people here will point you towards the "optimal" settings and over-clock for your card.
Good luck.

 

[gopal]

Please breakdown your thoughts into sentences, so that myself, the OP and others can understand what you are posting.


OP, did you decide what you're getting?

Wait for the HD 7990 and when the prices down hit the HD 7970

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I wouldn't necessary use Denmark as a reference point for how models compare price wise elsewhere, esp the US. Most of the rumors put it at around the $300 price point here. Then again, most rumors on 670 pricing had it averaging $350, and it turned out to be $400.

You won't really know until there's a hard launch in your particular area.

 

[subhendu]

my vote for GTX 670

 

[batman3009]

The NZXT Tempest EVO can fit a 5870, which is nearly 11" long. The 680 is only 10". The 7970 can range from 10.5"-11.5" btw. Another plus of Nvidia, they tend to fit cases better, esp the 28nm ones.

I'm talking about asus gtx 680 direct cuII top,it's very big so I wanted to know if it will fit in my case or not?

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I'm talking about asus gtx 680 direct cuII top,it's very big so I wanted to know if it will fit in my case or not?

Yeah that's one big mutha there. That card is just under 12". I took a side view screenshot of the case off Newegg though and using my image viewer's cropping scale figured the ratio between it's crop measuring tool and the actual front to back depth of the case and here's what I came up with.

The max GPU depth (that's with the upper HDD cage removed) looks to be about 13.5". The minimum depth (without HDD cage removed) appears to be about 12.75". Note that the HDDs themselves are going to hang off a bit beyond the cage itself though.

It would probably be pretty tight with the upper HDD cage in, esp if you had HDDs in it, but keep in mind the HDDs mount vertically in that case and the cables attach to them only on one end, but the drives themselves would be awfully close.

With a card that big I would def advise keeping your HDDs in the lower cage and removing the upper one. With that arrangement you'd have plenty of room for the GPU and it's cables with no HDDs obstructing it or the intake airflow to it.

Speaking of intake airflow, you can increase it on that case by removing the bay cover filters directly in front of the two front intake fans, because they have their own filters anyway, and they're far easier to clean than those front filters on the bay covers.