NEED HELP WITH PSU SELECTION. still new generally new to the game...

[Jordy]

Hey guys, i was thinking of building A entry level or uh mid range pc? just sufficient for me to do abit of apex and high fps and also my programming stuff for uni. So, here are the specs that i am currently looking at,

Ryzen 3300X
B450M-DS3H / B450M Steel legend.
RX 5500 XT / GTX1660
16GB Ddr4 RAM at 3200Mhz (Corsair Vengeance LPX)
1x256gb M.2 ssd from Adata ( reuse from my laptop)
1x 512Gb M.2 ssd from XPG (If i get the Steel legend)

so yea....i need advice for a psu....

 

[8BitZ80]

Welcome to the TPU forums

The best thing you can do is a lot of research and lots of hard thinking before buying. A good power supply will last 10 years like it's nothing and will outlast everything else in your system. It's always a good idea to invest a decent amount of cash to get a high quality unit with plenty of wattage.

Good place to start is looking into what's currently available and just get a feel for the pricing. Wattage is obviously a big factor, but there's also nice-to-haves like higher efficiency ratings (80+ silver, gold, platinum etc), smart fan control (makes your PC quieter at idle), modular power cables (easier cable management) and miscellaneous stuff like aesthetics.

Honestly even though your listed specs could work with a 400W unit just fine, I'd look into getting a beefy 600W or 700W unit with 80+ silver or gold efficiency. It's overkill right now but you'll thank yourself later.

Just on your other system parts, the 3300X is a good choice although I do recommend the B550 motherboards instead. The B550 chipset will give you more future CPU upgrade options with Zen 3 later down the road so you can squeeze a bit more life out of the same platform.

 

[Toothless]

Get the DSH3. I've seen too many issues with the Steel Legend boards. Go B550 if you're able to.

 

[Vayra86]

Seconded to get a 600-650W PSU, but do take quality over capacity and check proper reviews on the specific unit you're looking at.

What matters with PSUs is finding the actual OEM and not the brand sticker of each unit.
This site is helpful with that
Note last update is 2018... apparently

Power Supply Platform Database - see which PSUs share the same design inside.

A database of PSU OEMs and the platforms they use, and also a hub for power supply news.

orionpsudb.com

 

[Kapone33]

A 550 to 650 Watt PSU would be more than enough. I literally ran a 3300x with a Vega 64 using a 650 Watt PSU with 1 SSHD, 3 SSDs, 2 NVME drives and 5 RGB fan/header combinations. So even a 600W ceiling would be good. Beware fully modular as you are basically paying more to install the 24 Pin, 8 Pin, SATA and PCIe cables yourself. Try for semi modular if cable clutter is a concern but stick to brands like Thermaltake, Seasonic, Be Quiet, EVGA or Corsair.

Even though this doesn't have Bronze to Platinum I have used this PSU series in 4 customer builds with no issues.

Thermaltake Smart 600W ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V 80 Plus Certified Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W : Amazon.ca: Electronics

Thermaltake Smart 600W ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V 80 Plus Certified Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W : Amazon.ca: Electronics

www.amazon.ca

vs a high- end

Amazon.ca

vs fully modular

Corsair RM Series, RM650, 650 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply, Microsoft Modern Standby : Amazon.ca: Electronics

Corsair RM Series, RM650, 650 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply, Microsoft Modern Standby : Amazon.ca: Electronics

www.amazon.ca

At the end of the day I would go with the Thermaltake for 1/2 the cost of the Seasonic if cost is a factor. I would get the Seasonic if you want super reliable and the Corsair is if you don't want any extra cables attached to the PSU (keep in mind what I said earlier).

 

[Bill_Bright]

The right way to determine the proper size needed is to research all the components, determine their maximum power demand, add them all up, and that is the minimum supply you should get. But that takes a lot of time and work. So I recommend using a good PSU calculator and the best and only one I use or recommend is the eXtreme OuterVision PSU Calculator. This will calculate your minimum needs and recommend a suitable size for those needs. It will also suggest an appropriate size UPS - something I recommend be used for all computers.

Plug in all your current components. Be sure to plan ahead and include all the hardware you think you might add in 2 or 3 years (extra drives, bigger or second video card, more RAM, etc.).

I recommend setting CPU utilization to 100% and Computer Utilization Time to 16 hours per day. These settings will help compensate for component aging, and add a little extra padding to the results. This will also result in a little cooler and quieter operation.

Note that no calculator wants to recommend a PSU that is underpowered so they all pad the results, some more than others. The eXtreme OuterVision calculator is and can be the most conservative for 2 main reasons. (1) They have a team of researchers on staff constantly researching components for us to keep their extensive databases accurate and current. And (2), it is the most flexible and has the most extensive databases of available options you can enter. This allows it to factor in all possible components to accurately calculate our needs rather than guess.

The eXtreme PSU Calculator ensures you buy a properly sized PSU for your needs. One that has a little extra headroom for future upgrades, but not one that is WAY too big and a waste of your money.

As seen here, a nice 400W supply will work fine. Note those results are even a bit more overstated because I used the 5600 XT instead of the 5500XT. I also added a DVD drive, 3 x 140mm case fans, as well as bumped up the utilization times for even extra measure. So if me, I would get a quality 450W supply. If I might do some significant upgrades in the next couple years, then a 550W. Bigger than that is way more than you need.

I also recommend getting at least an 80 PLUS "Bronze" if the budget is tight. But if possible go for "Gold". Platinum and Titanium are not worth the extra cost unless you happen upon a "too good to pass up" sale.

 

[dirtyferret]

Hey guys, i was thinking of building A entry level or uh mid range pc? just sufficient for me to do abit of apex and high fps and also my programming stuff for uni. So, here are the specs that i am currently looking at,

Ryzen 3300X
B450M-DS3H / B450M Steel legend.
RX 5500 XT / GTX1660
16GB Ddr4 RAM at 3200Mhz (Corsair Vengeance LPX)
1x256gb M.2 ssd from Adata ( reuse from my laptop)
1x 512Gb M.2 ssd from XPG (If i get the Steel legend)

so yea....i need advice for a psu....

gaming you would barely break 200w system power with that set up, programing would be even less. Any solid 500w+ unit will do the job (even quality 450w units if they still have them out there)

 

[Hyderz]

need more info. what monitor do you have?
+1 on a ryzen 5 3600..

 

[dirtyferret]

so yea....i need advice for a psu....

need more info. what monitor do you have?

am I missing something???

 

[Bill_Bright]

am I missing something???

If so, it flew by me too. Unless we are talking about an AiO or notebook computer, monitors get their power from their own power supplies, not the PC's power supply.

 

[Jordy]

Welcome to the TPU forums

The best thing you can do is a lot of research and lots of hard thinking before buying. A good power supply will last 10 years like it's nothing and will outlast everything else in your system. It's always a good idea to invest a decent amount of cash to get a high quality unit with plenty of wattage.

Good place to start is looking into what's currently available and just get a feel for the pricing. Wattage is obviously a big factor, but there's also nice-to-haves like higher efficiency ratings (80+ silver, gold, platinum etc), smart fan control (makes your PC quieter at idle), modular power cables (easier cable management) and miscellaneous stuff like aesthetics.

Honestly even though your listed specs could work with a 400W unit just fine, I'd look into getting a beefy 600W or 700W unit with 80+ silver or gold efficiency. It's overkill right now but you'll thank yourself later.

Just on your other system parts, the 3300X is a good choice although I do recommend the B550 motherboards instead. The B550 chipset will give you more future CPU upgrade options with Zen 3 later down the road so you can squeeze a bit more life out of the same platform.

I did have athought of going for a 650 or 700W psu fully modular but i thought i would be too overkill. XD but thanks for the info

gaming you would barely break 200w system power with that set up, programing would be even less. Any solid 500w+ unit will do the job (even quality 450w units if they still have them out there)

alright well noted

need more info. what monitor do you have?
+1 on a ryzen 5 3600..

i now have a K202HQL by acer 60hz but i am thinking of getting a 144hz monitor when i get this system

 

[xman2007]

I did have athought of going for a 650 or 700W psu fully modular but i thought i would be too overkill. XD but thanks for the info


alright well noted


i now have a K202HQL by acer 60hz but i am thinking of getting a 144hz monitor when i get this system

I don't think there's much point in getting a 144hz monitor as a 5500xt won't hit 144fps in most games, for programming it doesn't matter either way. Am with other posts, a decent 500w+ unit will be fine for that build, what is your budget?

 

[Jordy]

Get the DSH3. I've seen too many issues with the Steel Legend boards. Go B550 if you're able to.

my first option is the DSH3 XD but because i saw one m.2 then i kinda changed my mind and thought the steel legend board would be a better option
and by the way, wont the b550 be abit over kill for the hardware? XD

I don't think there's much point in getting a 144hz monitor as a 5500xt won't hit 144fps in most games, for programming it doesn't matter either way. Am with other posts, a decent 500w+ unit will be fine for that build, what is your budget?

i dont really game with high quality graphics xD for apex...the 144hz is mainly for CSGO or VALORANT
cuz i play streched and low settings xD

I don't think there's much point in getting a 144hz monitor as a 5500xt won't hit 144fps in most games, for programming it doesn't matter either way. Am with other posts, a decent 500w+ unit will be fine for that build, what is your budget?

my budget is to squeeze everything in 3 to 4k ringgit (MYR)

 

[xman2007]

i dont really game with high quality graphics xD for apex...the 144hz is mainly for CSGO or VALORANT
cuz i play streched and low settings xD

Ah ok in that case then yea, you might be better off with the higher refresh rate afterall, what are the PSU options for your remaining budget? a good 500w should be plenty, 650+ is totally overkill for those system specs