New Build for Game Development/Gaming

[Fleurious]

Updated based on comments:

Only requirements: Built in WIFI, support for 4 monitors.
Use case: Programming (visual studio primarily), gaming.
Budget: $4,000 Canadian Dollars

Need thoughts on a couple builds, namely suggestions for component substitutions and compatibility. I'm not too familiar with AMD systems and RAM compatibility or optimal speed/latency. This is for my brother who does programming/game development and games with us as well. Type of games are whatever is currently fun (Sea of Thieves, Age of Conan, any open world survival). He already has archaic monitors that he is fine resusing but both builds below will leave $800-900 to upgrade his primary monitor.

The case we are looking at a Phanteks P500A but for some reason pcpartspicker didn't list. He definitely does not need the 3080 and we would drop it to a 3070 or 3060 if they become available before the 3080 restocks. Looking to buy asap though hence not waiting for AMD 5000 series or next gen Intel.


The Intel based system is:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490 AORUS ULTRA ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS PX 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Total: $2849.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


The AMD based system is:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor or 5900X pending availability
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS PX 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (May reuse a Seasonic Platinum 1KW PSU from another broken build)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Total: $3025.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

[toname]

Your current selection of systems parts for AMD and INTEL will suffice. My only comment is choose another PSU brand beside SeaSonic FOCUS.

 

[Vya Domus]

The AMD CPU will be faster at compiling and since the system will be doing a lot of that, go with it.

 

[Selaya]

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You don't seem to be using any of the chipset's PCIe lanes, so the X570 is basically wasted - you can get a B550 with lesser features and save $100ish give or take (unless you have definitive plans for upgrades that require those lanes).

I'm not sure whether they would ship P31s to Canada from the US, but if they do I'd recommend them over the SX8200.

 

[xman2007]

Ryzen 3/5000 CPU's are out in a couple of weeks, with an ipc uplift of up to 20% over Zen 2, I suggest you wait for them and look at the 5800x it should beat both your current choices handsdown, though the msrp is around 499 iirc so probably 600+ ca

 

[Selaya]

Multithread IPC uplift is closer to 10%. For software developement, I would recommend buying current-gen Ryzens instead of the next unless you have access to infinite amounts of money - It does everything well enough, at a basically unbeatable price.

Besides the OP mentioned that they want their box now, not like a month and a half later when stuff's finally shipping.

 

[Fleurious]

Is it only a few weeks away? I thought it was March before they come out? Having just checked again it looks like November 5th. I guess I can start ordering the common components at least.

 

[xman2007]

Multithread IPC uplift is closer to 10%. For software developement, I would recommend buying current-gen Ryzens instead of the next unless you have access to infinite amounts of money - It does everything well enough, at a basically unbeatable price.

Besides the OP mentioned that they want their box now, not like a month and a half later when stuff's finally shipping.

2 weeks release date not a month and a half, and unlike ampere they will be available. And he has a $4k budget, 5800x will fit into that with lots to spare.

 

[Aquinus]

Your current selection of systems parts for AMD and INTEL will suffice. My only comment is choose another PSU brand beside SeaSonic FOCUS.

Why? My experience with Seasonic PSUs has been exceptional.

 

[Selaya]

2 weeks release date not a month and a half, and unlike ampere they will be available. And he has a $4k budget, 5800x will fit into that with lots to spare.

Yes well but how likely especially given the current circumstances are you to obtain one at launch? In Canada? At actual prices, and not marked up?
The 3900x will be much better for software developement than the 5800x, same for the 3950x/5900x. Just because you have a budget of CAD $4,000 doesn't mean that you should be mindlessly throwing it away, though. I certainly wouldn't pay more than like, 20% extra for the same/comparable part (3700x/5800x, 3900x/5900x, 3950x/5950x).

Why? My experience with Seasonic PSUs has been exceptional.

The Focus series specifically. Probably because of this:
https://www.techpowerup.com/249838/seasonic-focus-plus-psus-encounter-gpu-compatibility-issues

 

[Aquinus]

The Focus series specifically. Probably because of this:
https://www.techpowerup.com/249838/seasonic-focus-plus-psus-encounter-gpu-compatibility-issues

If you're worried about that, go with something a little newer and a little nicer if you don't mind spending the extra $50. 750w should be more than enough for the build. I suspect max draw wouldn't be much higher than 500w. If I was building a new machine, that's probably the PSU I'd buy.

SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 750 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

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