NVIDIA Data-breach: Hackers Demand GeForce Drivers be Made Open-Source

btarunr · Mar 1, 2022

The latest episode in the saga of the cyberattacks on NVIDIA servers that unleashed the motherlode of confidential information, the group behind the hack made its second set of demands. The first one was for a ransom to prevent public-disclosure, which NVIDIA possibly didn't meet. The second one is a demand for making GeForce proprietary drivers open-source on all platforms. Failing this, the group plans to release its next chunk of the leak public.

This, the group claims, includes sensitive files related to the company's silicon design, including Verilog (.v) files, and VG files. They also claim to be in possession of files related to upcoming hardware, including the elusive RTX 3090 Ti, and upcoming revisions of existing silicon. The group sets until 4th March (Friday) to meet its demand.

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wheresmycar · Mar 1, 2022

This is madness.. or is it?

Pardon my ignorance, what is "open-source" in these circumstances and does this benefit the ordinary user?

rcl98 · Mar 1, 2022

wheresmycar said:
This is madness.. or is it?

Pardon my ignorance, what is "open-source" in these circumstances and does this benefit the ordinary user?

remember those A series card? I think you can enable RTX A6000 feature on RTX 3090 which is much cheaper

Space Lynx · Mar 1, 2022

to my knowledge AMD drivers are not open source either on WIndows, only on Linux...

so why they only target Nvidia I wonder, weird.

R-T-B · Mar 1, 2022

Open source drivers basically means we can write our own drivers with whatever features we want.

You could do things like turn on bogusly-segregated features like Integer scaling (Only Turing and above? Come on) on any product, or many things like that.

CallandorWoT said:
so why they only target Nvidia I wonder, weird.

Probably because they successfully breached them, I would reckon.

wahdangun · Mar 1, 2022

CallandorWoT said:
to my knowledge AMD drivers are not open source either on WIndows, only on Linux...

so why they only target Nvidia I wonder, weird.

but nvdia driver for linux still not open source

Deleted member 24505 · Mar 1, 2022

CallandorWoT said:
so why they only target Nvidia I wonder, weird.

Because they couldn't buy a reasonably priced rtx3080ti to play LOL and are sore about it.

Space Lynx · Mar 1, 2022

R-T-B said:
Open source drivers basically means we can write our own drivers with whatever features we want.

You could do things like turn on bogusly-segregated features like Integer scaling (Only Turing and above? Come on) on any product, or many things like that.

Probably because they successfully breached them, I would reckon.

are you saying AMD has better security than Nvidia?

hey AMD, time to reach out to those healthcare companies that Nvidia reached out to, LOL i wonder who will win those contracts now....

Mescalamba · Mar 1, 2022

Well, why not. Computing power is dictated by card alone anyway.

Fouquin · Mar 2, 2022

Demanding open-source drivers for macOS is like asking the stewardess to have the plane turned around. NV has no control over delivering drivers for macOS, only Apple does.

zlobby · Mar 2, 2022

CallandorWoT said:
to my knowledge AMD drivers are not open source either on WIndows, only on Linux...

so why they only target Nvidia I wonder, weird.

Ghee, really! Why didn't they target AMD? Oh, I know - it's because AMD didn't implement half-assed security measures.

Nvidia are really far up theirs.

Bruno_O · Mar 2, 2022

shit is getting serious

Kapone33 · Mar 2, 2022

Bruno_O said:
shit is getting serious

This is only the beginning.

Divide Overflow · Mar 2, 2022

Open source?
That's not something nVidia is prepared to do.

zlobby · Mar 2, 2022

Mescalamba said:
Well, why not. Computing power is dictated by card alone anyway.

That's the absolute limit. In reality you can't reach same performance due to software overhead.

Kapone33 · Mar 2, 2022

Fouquin said:
Demanding open-source drivers for macOS is like asking the stewardess to have the plane turned around. NV has no control over delivering drivers for macOS, only Apple does.

That is why this smells of a rogue Government operation.

windwhirl · Mar 2, 2022

CallandorWoT said:
are you saying AMD has better security than Nvidia?

zlobby said:
Ghee, really! Why didn't they target AMD? Oh, I know - it's because AMD didn't implement half-assed security measures.

We don't know which company has better security measures, and to be fair, I don't recall AMD cutting down features/performance through drivers, which is what Nvidia did.

zlobby · Mar 2, 2022

windwhirl said:
We don't know which company has better security measures, and to be fair, I don't recall AMD cutting down features/performance through drivers, which is what Nvidia did.

I'm pretty sure hackers had and continue to probe AMD as well. For all we know only nvidia was breached as of now.

Chris34 · Mar 2, 2022

Maybe somebody will decide to rewrite the control panel.

Mescalamba · Mar 2, 2022

Chris34 said:
Maybe somebody will decide to rewrite the control panel.

Lol, yes please.

Athena · Mar 2, 2022

This is pretty dumb, trying to blackmail them?

Open source drivers can't be used on windows, they aren't signed, so that is moot.

On Linux, that is a different story, and they really should open source the drivers, instead of the binary blobs they have now.

Both AMD & Intel have open sourced drivers (with some binary blobs parts.

Overall, a big fat meh.

Jism · Mar 2, 2022

I'm more interested in the Telemetry practices they perform on both professional and consumer drivers.

Space Lynx · Mar 2, 2022

Jism said:
I'm more interested in the Telemetry practices they perform on both professional and consumer drivers.

no need to be interested in it, they are licking bbq sauce off those telemetry chicken wings like its no ones business. best to just give up and accept our fate as a failed species as I have done. LOL jk mate, fkin hell i crack myself up sometimes

mechtech · Mar 2, 2022

This so they can optimize mining? lol

claes · Mar 2, 2022

Fouquin said:
Demanding open-source drivers for macOS is like asking the stewardess to have the plane turned around. NV has no control over delivering drivers for macOS, only Apple does.

Is this true? From what I recall nvidia was upset that their contract ended and decided to stop development unilaterally. Maybe I’m wrong?

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