OLD X58 system upgrade CPU and get two GTX 1070 for sli?

[Tomgang]

Right now i have an old X58 based system.

spec:

I7 920 @ 4 GHz
Asus Rampage 2 extreme motherboard
12 GB triple channel ram 1600 MHz
2 x GTX 970 in sli

I am thinking about give the system a little upgrade and the last one before going to an entirely new system.

My plan is to upgrade CPU from i7 920 to at cheap 6 core I7/Xeon cpu and when oc the crap out of it and get two GTX 1070 for some sli fun or maybe two used GTX 980 TI in sli but 980 Ti power use is high. I can not afford two GTX 1080 sadly.

Keeping I7 920 is no go, cause that will bottleneck two GTX 1070.

My question is: do you guys think that will work or is the X58 just to old now for more upgrades and be better of with new CPU, motherboard and memory and wait with GFX upgrade?

 

[Frick]

Isn't one 1080 cheaper than two 1070s?

 

[Tomgang]

Isn't one 1080 cheaper than two 1070s?

Yes one 1080 is cheaper but also slower. And not that much faster than two GTX 970 in sli. Two GTX 970 is more or less one GTX 980 TI performence.
I can not afford two 1080 and two 1070 will give about 2 x GTX 980 TI performence or twice the gpu performence i have now.

So for me the bedst solution and my buget is im my eyes go with two GTX 1070. I cut also go with two used GTX 980 Ti cards but there power use i high and with that the heat aswell.

 

[Toothless]

It would be a waste but yeah, your x58 setup should be fine.

 

[Tomgang]

It would be a waste but yeah, your x58 setup should be fine.

A waste. How?

Because X58 it is to old/slow or because two gtx 1070 is overkill in your eyes?

 

[Recon-UK]

Go for a XEON X5650, 12 threads and plenty of raw beef to throw at that GPU.

 

[Tomgang]

Go for a XEON X5650, 12 threads and plenty of raw beef to throw at that GPU.

That Xeon has a pretty low stock clock, but since my I7 920 has the same clock speed but oc to well over 4 GHz. So can the Xeon chip aswell i think.
So that Xeon cut be the choise and have seen them on ebay for cheap money.

But: "plenty of raw beef to throw at that GPU"

You are aware that i planning on getting two GPU´s and not just one?

 

[Recon-UK]

That Xeon has a pretty low stock clock, but since my I7 920 has the same clock speed but oc to well over 4 GHz. So can the Xeon chip aswell i think.
So that Xeon cut be the choise and have seen them on ebay for cheap money.

But: "plenty of raw beef to throw at that GPU"

You are aware that i planning on getting two GPU´s and not just one?

The XEON is 32nm, will use less power and require less juice to get to the same clock, if your board is not the limit it will most likely OC quite a bit higher easily.

Two is overkill at 1080P and quite frankly silly, if you are at 1440P / 4K then that CPU should still do fine as you will be mostly GPU limited in demanding titles.

This is what 1 1070 can do at 1080P...

GPU usage drops slightly even with an OC'd 6700K because BF4 has other limitations due to the engine and it's optimization.

 

[Tomgang]

The XEON is 32nm, will use less power and require less juice to get to the same clock, if your board is not the limit it will most likely OC quite a bit higher easily.

Two is overkill at 1080P and quite frankly silly, if you are at 1440P / 4K then that CPU should still do fine as you will be mostly GPU limited in demanding titles.

This is what 1 1070 can do at 1080P...

GPU usage drops slightly even with an OC'd 6700K because BF4 has other limitations due to the engine and it's optimization.

i am on a 1080P monitor now but it is old (like 6 years now) so i am planning on to go with a 4K screen very soon.

Sound great with the xeon CPU, so that can very well be the one to go with.

 

[Recon-UK]

i am on a 1080P monitor now but it is old (like 6 years now) so i am planning on to go with a 4K screen very soon.

Sound great with the xeon CPU, so that can very well be the one to go with.

Thinking of doing it myself, i'm looking at GTX 1060 range GPU though, i'm happy with 1080P.

 

[dorsetknob]

Xeon X5650 will overclock to 4.5GHz on Average

See Xeon owners thread for examples and CPUz valadation pics

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/xeon-owners-club.211143/

 

[Toothless]

A waste. How?

Because X58 it is to old/slow or because two gtx 1070 is overkill in your eyes?

The two 1070's. A single card will always be better than two due to not 100% of games supporting it. You have SLI, this should be obvious.

 

[Tomgang]

Thinking of doing it myself, i'm looking at GTX 1060 range GPU though, i'm happy with 1080P.

1060 i am dropping cause of lower Vram and memory brandwith is lower. And i have learned that low memory branwitch is not a good thing for 4K. Going from GTX 660 TI to two 970 helped alot in demanding games.
And 1070 has 8 GB Vram where 1060 only has 3/6 GB vram.

 

[Recon-UK]

I have the E5640 which is the XEON version of the i7 920, i do 4.2ghz easy on an ITX cooler, an i7 at that clock would be melting my cooler and asking me to drop to around 3.8.

Not to do with your GPU topic, but even E5640's OC well beyond the capabilities of the i7 920 D0 on average too.

I have an ITX cooler, look it up, insanely quiet too, but i'm getting a mounting kit for my spare H100, gonna crank beyond 4.5ghz.

 

[qurotro]

i am on a 1080P monitor now but it is old (like 6 years now) so i am planning on to go with a 4K screen very soon.

If I was you, I'll save those $$ and wait till I get a 4K screen, then upgrade all the things...i bet the 4Ghz i7 920 is beating every i5 the sh*t out of them even for now...and 2 GTX970s is doing fine in 1080p...

 

[Tomgang]

Xeon X5650 will overclock to 4.5GHz on Average

See Xeon owners thread for examples and CPUz valadation pics

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/xeon-owners-club.211143/

I will take a look at it. thanks

The two 1070's. A single card will always be better than two due to not 100% of games supporting it. You have SLI, this should be obvious.

It is right that some games dosent support sli, but i have always go with sli (GTX 285 triple sli, GTX 570 sli, GTX 660 TI sli and GTX 970 sli) and going with only one card would simply not satisfy me. I had try with only one GTX 570 to start with but only 14 days after i got the second card and there much more pleased. Becides more or less all the games i play have sli support.

 

[Tomgang]

I have the E5640 which is the XEON version of the i7 920, i do 4.2ghz easy on an ITX cooler, an i7 at that clock would be melting my cooler and asking me to drop to around 3.8.

Not to do with your GPU topic, but even E5640's OC well beyond the capabilities of the i7 920 D0 on average too.

I have an ITX cooler, look it up, insanely quiet too, but i'm getting a mounting kit for my spare H100, gonna crank beyond 4.5ghz.

My CPU has been on the good side of 4 GHz with 4,4 GHz and 4,35 GHz but the heat is not on the good side when with temp above 80 Degrees Celsius . That CPU cooler i have is not gear for 4,4 GHz on a I7 920.

se these image below for over 4 GHz oc.

If I was you, I'll save those $$ and wait till I get a 4K screen, then upgrade all the things...i bet the 4Ghz i7 920 is beating every i5 the sh*t out of them even for now...and 2 GTX970s is doing fine in 1080p...

It is not that the performence is bad at 1080P but with 4K more gpu power is needed, but yes i cut wait to i get i my 4K screen. The problem is just that right now i have vecation and by that the time to upgrade now.

 

[Recon-UK]

My CPU has been on the good side of 4 GHz with 4,4 GHz and 4,35 GHz but the heat is not on the good side when with temp above 80 Degrees Celsius . That CPU cooler i have is not gear for 4,4 GHz on a I7 920.

se these image below for over 4 GHz oc.

It is not that the performence is bad at 1080P but with 4K more gpu power is needed, but yes i cut wait to i get i my 4K screen. The problem is just that right now i have vecation and by that the time to upgrade now.

Yeah i can also see that your voltages are very high, i did 4.4ghz on my XEON but did not dare run a stress test on it as i know my ITX cooler would melt under that clock speed.

I benched PCSX2 with it testing it's single core performance out... that right there ladies and gents is matching 4.0ghz 2500k's in single thread. And beating a stock i3 4130.
2FPS from matching a stock 4670K in single thread.
Multithread it blows all of the chips i mentioned away in a heart beat.

http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-CPU-Benchmark-designed-for-PCSX2-based-on-FFX-2

 

[FireFox]

That Xeon has a pretty low stock clock,

Agree with you, get the Xeon X5677 3.46GHz turbo boost 3.73GHz and with some little overclock you can get it to 4.2GHz/4.5GHz and it's a very very cheap Xeon.

 

[Tomgang]

Yeah i can also see that your voltages are very high, i did 4.4ghz on my XEON but did not dare run a stress test on it as i know my ITX cooler would melt under that clock speed.

I benched PCSX2 with it testing it's single core performance out... that right there ladies and gents is matching 4.0ghz 2500k's in single thread. And beating a stock i3 3140.
2FPS from matching a stock 4670K in single thread.
Multithread it blows all of the chips i mentioned away in a heart beat.

http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-CPU-Benchmark-designed-for-PCSX2-based-on-FFX-2

Year i se your voltage is lower at the same clock. A 6 core xeon chip is the way to go then.

Agree with you, get the Xeon X5677 3.46GHz turbo boost 3.73GHz and with some little overclock you can get it to 4.2GHz/4.5GHz and it's a very very cheap Xeon.

I cut do that. Will take a closer look how the Xeon models overclock and them deside withs one to take.

 

[Recon-UK]

Agree with you, get the Xeon X5677 3.46GHz turbo boost 3.73GHz and with some little overclock you can get it to 4.2GHz/4.5GHz and it's a very very cheap Xeon.

Just don't buy one new...

 

[FireFox]

Just don't buy one new...

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I hope he didn't think to buy it new
BTW second hand in Germany cost 55€.

 

[Tomgang]

Just don't buy one new...

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Dont worry, im planning on to find one on ebay.