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PC has started BSODing...

will

will

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Hereford, England
System Specs
Processor Intel Core i5 750
Motherboard Maximus III Formula P55
Cooling Ultima 90i
Memory 4GB Kingston HyperX
Video Card(s) PNY GTX465 @ GTX470 w/ 1280MB vRAM
Storage OCZ Vertex 2E 60GB + 2x1TB Samsung F1
Display(s) Samsung 245B
Case Black Cosmos S
Audio Device(s) Creative Audigy 2ZS
Power Supply Antec NeoHE 550W
Software 7 Ultimate 64bit, OSX
Hi all,
Basically I have had this system for about 8 months or so, been running the OC in my system specs. It has been fine until a few weeks ago. Temps are low (watercooled) and voltages arent too high. Voltages for the mobo are all auto iirc, CPU is about 1.45v or so.
Anyway a few weeks ago it started restarting randomly when I was playing spore, sometimes I would get a BSOD sometimes not. It did that thing when a few ms of sound loop really quickly. I usually got driver_irql etc... on the blue screen if it was there. It did this every few hours, sometimes less often.
My first thought was RAM, but I ran memtest and there were no errors after about 9 passes (left it on for ages!). Next I thought CPU vcore, I adjusted it both ways but it didnt really make a difference. I reinstalled windows on 2 different hard drives so I dont think they're the problem. This also kinda ruled out driver issues especially for the GFX as when I reinstalled I used a newer driver for my 8800gt.
Once I reinstalled I didnt play any games, just web browsing and downloading stuff, but the BSODs kept happening. I thought it might be something to do with the mobo and ocing so I reset the BIOS to my non-oc setting. This cured it for a few days, maybe a week. Last night though I got another BSOD :( so I am fearing the worst.
What do you guys reckon? I am thinking maybe faulty mobo/cpu.
 
Control Panel --> Administrative Tools --> Error log. Look for errors and warnings, it should help find the culprit.
 
will said:
Hi all,
I usually got driver_irql etc... on the blue screen if it was there. (snip) This also kinda ruled out driver issues especially for the GFX as when I reinstalled I used a newer driver for my 8800gt.
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It is the driver.

Install your previous driver, the one you had before.

Check if the BSODs occur again.
 
Black Panther said:
It is the driver.

Install your previous driver, the one you had before.

Check if the BSODs occur again.
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Yeah but I got the BSODs before I reinstalled and used the new driver, ie I had the issues with both drivers. Having said that I will try some other drivers. I dont think it is gfx related though, as the bsods happen even when the gfx isnt really being stressed.
 
Did you check the error log?
 
erocker said:
Control Panel --> Administrative Tools --> Error log. Look for errors and warnings, it should help find the culprit.
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Yeah I checked that before, I forgot to say! There are loads of critical/error/warnings all saying that windows took too long to start up and certain programs took longer than usual to open or delayed the shut down process... hmmm. This new hard drive does seem slower but it is my second samsung f1 1tb, the one I had a few months ago was really fast. Im not sure if this is related to the bsod problems as these happened with my old WD 500gb drive as well. Maybe an issue with the southbridge?? :confused:

Edit: I am using Vista, the errors I described were in the Diagnostics -> Performance area of the event viewer, under hardware faults there are no entries.
 
go into the power settings and tell the PC not to reboot on error....the you will get time to read and write down what appears on the blue screen....get that error and google it or post it here and I will google it to try to find its cause!
 
sneekypeet said:
go into the power settings and tell the PC not to reboot on error....the you will get time to read and write down what appears on the blue screen....get that error and google it or post it here and I will google it to try to find its cause!
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OK but Im pretty sure every time its the old DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. Ill check next time.
 
will said:
OK but Im pretty sure every time its the old DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. Ill check next time.
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its the 0X000.... codes I am more interested in.
 
OK I just got another blue screen, here are the codes:
0x000000D1 (0x00000000, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

Strangely enough when it restarted I chose to send the report to microsoft and it came up with a response saying it was due to Kaspersky antivirus and if I updated it it would be fixed... Well it has all the latest updates and so cant update. Could this be causing the problem? I didnt have it installed before I reinstalled windows, but maybe there was another problem??? :confused: It could just be microsoft error reporting coming up with random stuff...
 
Something still makes me feel that it's a driver causing the problem.

Have you updated any driver lately?

Before you try to drastically change hardware - back up your info, and do a reinstall of your OS.
After that install the drivers which came in the diskettes which came with your hardware... check if you get BSODs, and work forth from there.
 
Looks like it could indeed be a AV related issue, or some other driver not playing nice. Did you just recently start w/ Kaspersky? Here's another forum's user w/ a similar problem.
 
Black Panther said:
Something still makes me feel that it's a driver causing the problem.

Have you updated any driver lately?

Before you try to drastically change hardware - back up your info, and do a reinstall of your OS.
After that install the drivers which came in the diskettes which came with your hardware... check if you get BSODs, and work forth from there.
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Yeah I am thinking it could be driver related. I will do a reinstall tomorrow, I cant back everything up so Ill just install windows again on this hard drive (it puts the old windows files in a folder called windows.old which I can then delete), or Ill just make a new partition. The problem is because the BSODs are so far apart, I cant really install single drivers one by one and wait for a bsod. Maybe Ill do all mobo drivers, then graphics, then sound...
Ill update tomorrow.
Actually come to think of it, it could be the sound card driver... I changed that a while ago on the previous windows installation and am using it atm.. hmmm Ill try that now.
 
farlex85 said:
Looks like it could indeed be a AV related issue, or some other driver not playing nice. Did you just recently start w/ Kaspersky? Here's another forum's user w/ a similar problem.
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Lol I was just looking at that exact page! Yeah I installed Kaspersky with this windows install but never before so it seems unlikely. If changing the sound card driver doesnt work Ill uninstall Kasperksy.
 
Do you use a logitech mouse with setpoint? Along with the AV I saw a Ms page stating certain versions of log.'s software can do the same thing!
 
sneekypeet said:
Do you use a logitech mouse with setpoint? Along with the AV I saw a Ms page stating certain versions of log.'s software can do the same thing!
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Yes I do... I guess Ill uninstall it and see if it works!
 
Is it ok for devices to share IRQs? My graphics card and sound card both share IRQs with motherboard components... There are no exclamation marks in device manger so does that mean it's ok?
 
I think its ok...never had an issue myself, altho I never dug that deep to verify I had them running on seperate IRQ's
 
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