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PLZ Comment on what i'm buying

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UPDATE : thx to everyone's helpful's suggestions , i'm going with p35 and 4gb ddr2 800 . Now plz suggest me good and reliable motherboard in this category, preferrably firewire onboard .

What i'm buying -

Processor - Q6600 looking for G0 stepping

http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1938452

or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Motherboard :

https://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?&scriteria=BA24586

or

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA24222

Power Supply :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371007

or

http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-520w-sli-certified-modular-atx-power-supply/q/loc/101/203270716.html

RAM :

G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

UPDATE : another Power Supply :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151027

another cooler :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233012
 
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ASUS P5E3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard ~ Nice board, but many claim its Wi-Fi module to have weak signal strength, you could buy the P5K-E and a WiFi card instead but if you're ok with the signal strength part, that's fine with you.

INTEL core 2 quad q6600 ~ Wait for the Yorkfields to hit the market, compare them and their OC capabilities and decide on whether you'd want them or this Q6600. The YF chips will come with lower multipliers but higher caches and could run cooler due to its fabrication process so it's a dilemma.
with
XIGMATEK XP-S964 cooler. ~ Awesome piece of metal :D
ARCTIC SILVER 5 COMPOUND ~ Arctic Cooling MX-2 ? Give it a try, many are choosing them over the AS-5 these days, I've never tried it myself. AS-5 is good enough

KINGSTON hyper x KHX8500D2K2/2G 2gb kit (1gb x 2) match pair pc28500 1066mhz cl5 5-5-5-15 240-pin ddr2 dimm w/heat spreader. ~Does it come with EPP? It's a good kit for its current price.

Regarding the alternative motherboard part keeping in mind your room for upgrade, I'd say Foxconn X38A. It comes with support for both DDR2 and DDR3 and a $210 +sh price from Newegg
 
btarunr said:
ASUS P5E3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard ~ Nice board, but many claim its Wi-Fi module to have weak signal strength, you could buy the P5K-E and a WiFi card instead but if you're ok with the signal strength part, that's fine with you.

INTEL core 2 quad q6600 ~ Wait for the Yorkfields to hit the market, compare them and their OC capabilities and decide on whether you'd want them or this Q6600. The YF chips will come with lower multipliers but higher caches and could run cooler due to its fabrication process so it's a dilemma.
with
XIGMATEK XP-S964 cooler. ~ Awesome piece of metal :D
ARCTIC SILVER 5 COMPOUND ~ Arctic Cooling MX-2 ? Give it a try, many are choosing them over the AS-5 these days, I've never tried it myself. AS-5 is good enough

KINGSTON hyper x KHX8500D2K2/2G 2gb kit (1gb x 2) match pair pc28500 1066mhz cl5 5-5-5-15 240-pin ddr2 dimm w/heat spreader. ~Does it come with EPP? It's a good kit for its current price.

Regarding the alternative motherboard part keeping in mind your room for upgrade, I'd say Foxconn X38A. It comes with support for both DDR2 and DDR3 and a $210 +sh price from Newegg
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Are the x38s really better than a p35? I don't see any point in him spending $70 extra if he's not gonna use a dual gpu setup. So y go x?
 
farlex85 said:
Are the x38s really better than a p35? I don't see any point in him spending $70 extra if he's not gonna use a dual gpu setup. So y go x?
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PCI-Express 2.0

If he plans to use a monstrosity like HD-3870 X2 or the GeForce 9800 GX2 in the future, the PCI-E 2.0 bandwidth will come handy.
 
Maybe, but from what I've heard there is very little difference.......
 
farlex85 said:
Maybe, but from what I've heard there is very little difference.......
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That little difference will become huge with video-cards requiring that bandwidth. At least the 9800 GX2 will, big time. Besides, no FSB 1600 support with P35 :p
 
btarunr said:
PCI-Express 2.0

If he plans to use a monstrosity like HD-3870 X2 or the GeForce 9800 GX2 in the future, the PCI-E 2.0 bandwidth will come handy.
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ya pci-e 2.0 is on my mind . and my dad doesn't want to compromise on a motherboard for 100$ .
 
You always have to look for features that will come handy in the future if not now. As of now, you don't need FSB 1600, DDR3, PCI-E 2.0 but things move on fast and it won't be late before you'll need them. It's wise that you spent just a little more now and get those features.
 
btarunr said:
That little difference will become huge with video-cards requiring that bandwidth. At least the 9800 GX2 will, big time. Besides, no FSB 1600 support with P35 :p
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That gigabyte up there supports 1600. :) And if he's not planning on using sli or crossfire, I don't see why he would get one of those cards. But maybe in the future 2.0 will be worth the extra money. I dont know.
 
farlex85 said:
That gigabyte up there supports 1600. :) And if he's not planning on using sli or crossfire, I don't see why he would get one of those cards. But maybe in the future 2.0 will be worth the extra money. I dont know.
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upto FSB 1600....by OC. So there's no native support. There's no way I can buy a FSB 1600 CPU, that P35 board and start them up right away. I have to use a supported CPU first, OC its FSB to 1600, remove it, install the FSB 1600 CPU and get it to work provided a lot of other components are able to take that high freq operation. Just because he wouldn't be getting one of those cards doesn't mean he should have the option to? Why bottleneck the future cards with PCI-E 1.1?
 
In fact, that is the same board I have, and the same board you have, with some variations.:laugh: For instance mine doesn't do ddr3. Yours might not do 1600 if it was earlier. Maybe I'm biased.
 
btarunr said:
upto FSB 1600....by OC. So there's no native support. There's no way I can buy a FSB 1600 CPU, that P35 board and start them up right away. I have to use a supported CPU first, OC its FSB to 1600, remove it, install the FSB 1600 CPU and get it to work provided a lot of other components are able to take that high freq operation. Just because he wouldn't be getting one of those cards doesn't mean he should have the option to? Why bottleneck the future cards with PCI-E 1.1?
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And the x38 is native? I was under the impression that was the same deal, and the upcoming x48s provided native support. That board you reccomended above does not even mention 1600 fsb, and I haven't seen any 1600 fsbs that don't say (by o.c.), not yet. Although that doesn't mean they aren't out there.
 
That looks good. Really I shouldn't debate as I don't know these things for sure, I am just going with what I have seen. With what you initially said you were looking for, the x38 seemed like overkill, but now it seems you are looking for the bells and whistles. And I definately agree with the future proofing. If you got the money now, better to spend a little extra, it will save money in the long run. Look for that same board on newegg though, it will likely be cheaper if they got it.
 
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farlex85 said:
And the x38 is native?
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Yes. The boards' packaging don't mention it though the chipset is such designed as to support FSB 1600 MHz natively. Even then the X38 facilitates better overclocks than the P35 for this very reason, that it's made for high FSB. As and when the 1600 MHz CPU's do roll out, you'll be amazed to see all the then X38 boards sporting "FSB 1600 ready" stickers, just as all the newer P35 boards are now beginning to see "45nm ready" stickers on their packaging. The truth is, the P35 always supported 45nm chips by design, just BIOS updates were the issue. In the same way, the X38 and X48 in the future will support FSB 1600, just that mentioning them now, you'll be taking away the steam from the Intel X48 product launch which Intel is not doing. The specifications page of the X38 chipset on Intel's website did initially mention "FSB 1066 / 1333 / 1600" -something like that, I've read it, now they've edited it.
 
btarunr said:
Yes. The boards' packaging don't mention it though the chipset is such designed as to support FSB 1600 MHz natively. Even then the X38 facilitates better overclocks than the P35 for this very reason, that it's made for high FSB. As and when the 1600 MHz CPU's do roll out, you'll be amazed to see all the then X38 boards sporting "FSB 1600 ready" stickers, just as all the newer P35 boards are now beginning to see "45nm ready" stickers on their packaging. The truth is, the P35 always supported 45nm chips by design, just BIOS updates were the issue. In the same way, the X38 and X48 in the future will support FSB 1600, just that mentioning them now, you'll be taking away the steam from the Intel X48 product launch which Intel is not doing. The specifications page of the X38 chipset on Intel's website did initially mention "FSB 1066 / 1333 / 1600" -something like that, I've read it, now they've edited it.
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Couple of things wrong here. X38 will never "officially" support 1600fsb. Intel deemed it a 1333fsb chipset. Now, 3rd party board makers can support 1600fsb, if they choose, but it's not official from Intel. X48 is the official high-end 1600 chipset. But you're right as to the reason, Intel want's to push more X48 boards with the 1600fsb support gimmick. My Maximus Formula already has 1600fsb on the box tho. lol.

Second, P35 clocks better on average than X38.
 
I swear I saw "FSB 1600" in the specs of the X38 when the chipset first came out, only today I check the specs page (on Intel's website) I see it's not there. :wtf: Either ways, you'd be able to use a FSB 1600 chip on a X38 board with ease, all you need is a BIOS update maybe.

I have a P35 board, can't take it too far but maybe it's because that's a B3 revision chip I'm using (B3 = Big Bull's Balls) and that I'm living in India and using dry-cooling. :shadedshu
 
btarunr said:
I swear I saw "FSB 1600" in the specs of the X38 when the chipset first came out, only today I check the specs page (on Intel's website) I see it's not there. :wtf: Either ways, you'd be able to use a FSB 1600 chip on a X38 board with ease, all you need is a BIOS update maybe.

I have a P35 board, can't take it too far but maybe it's because that's a B3 revision chip I'm using (B3 = Big Bull's Balls) and that I'm living in India and using dry-cooling. :shadedshu
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Well, quads in general don't like high fsb. If you look at all the record runs on quads, they're done with a high multi, and generally a fsb in the 400-440 range. My board won't even post past 470ish fsb, even with my multi on 6x. Most people are hitting around 500 with my board on a dual core. 525 for the good boards. A mid range P35 board usually hits 525 with a dual, the good ones can do 550 without issue. Some have even gone well beyond 600fsb. No X38 has managed that from what I've seen so far.
 
Wile E said:
Well, quads in general don't like high fsb. If you look at all the record runs on quads, they're done with a high multi, and generally a fsb in the 400-440 range. My board won't even post past 470ish fsb, even with my multi on 6x. Most people are hitting around 500 with my board on a dual core. 525 for the good boards. A mid range P35 board usually hits 525 with a dual, the good ones can do 550 without issue. Some have even gone well beyond 600fsb. No X38 has managed that from what I've seen so far.
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Yea ok, thats what I was thinking. So really, if your not planning on doing crossfire the only advantage to getting a x38 would be pci 2.0. And that is negligible at the moment, although it may become more relevant in the future. So once again, I say go for the p35. Much cheaper and has everything you really need.

However, if you want to be extra future proof, and you can't see yourself saving some cash, then I would say wait a few weeks. I believe both the x48 and the 45nm quads are due out very soon (this month I think), and if you get that it will truly hold you over. Alot more expensive mind you, but very futureproof.;)
 
UPDATE : thx to everyone's helpful's suggestions , i'm going with p35 and 4gb ddr2 800 . Now plz suggest me good and reliable motherboard in this category, preferrably firewire onboard .

What i'm buying - q6600 , plz suggest a good cooler for this which will fit easily and any guide on how to fit that will be helpful .

Also graphic card 8800gs 384 mb for 129$ ? good ?

I have the rest of the components .
 
wolf2009 said:
UPDATE : thx to everyone's helpful's suggestions , i'm going with p35 and 4gb ddr2 800 . Now plz suggest me good and reliable motherboard in this category, preferrably firewire onboard .

What i'm buying - q6600 , plz suggest a good cooler for this which will fit easily and any guide on how to fit that will be helpful .

Also graphic card 8800gs 384 mb for 129$ ? good ?

I have the rest of the components .
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If $129 is all you could spare for a video-card then the 8800 GS looks good. Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P should match your criteria, it comes with two 1394a ports.

Xigmatek HDT-S1283 looks a nice cooler for its price.
 
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