Revisions / Differentation of Contact Frames [Intel]

[nomdeplume]

Increasingly curious how these stack up against each other and themselves. Revised designs following the intial surge during 12th gen are more or less confusing, but what do they actually correct or add.

Core Ultra appears to leave the door open to what is probably a high mark up accessory for third party vendors. It almost certainly is for Thermal Grizzly who present themselves as making the premium product for 12th - 14th gen that comes with a premium price. Most interestingly the product was relaunched for 13th and 14th gen (but still valid on 12th gen) in a revised form that most notably removed the officially stated nm torque spec and printed tick marks for visual guesstimation. Some paring along bottom edge and reshaping of interior dimensions was also delivered.

Thermalright and other offerings ranging from AliExpress to ??? are less discoverable, less contactable. In my mind they contain even wider variations and utility during home installation of contact frame and cpu cooler. Amazing to me the enforced to a high standard stock ILS that was given immensely more critical design by immensely more intelligent people than a vtuber (or the singular Roman XD) isn't facing a Wild West of pretenders creating uneven pressures and randomly varied results with conceivably lower standards of QC/QA in many cases.

Has any clear winner been determined when used with a high quality cooler designed expressly for LGA 1700 (awaiting LGA 1851 versions)? Any known good combinations for a specific board?
Call it a post-mortem or learning from the past to avoid repeating it in the future.

 

[Macro Device]

I never noticed any significant difference between no-name frames and premium tier ones in terms of installation simplicity, efficiency etc. Perhaps 1 degree Celcius at most. Might be better materials that withstand more CPU replacements but that doesn't matter for those who just bought a PC and plans on upgrading it... perhaps another decade. Which is 99% users.

Skipping LGA1851 is a correct choice nonetheless because Intel must admit the non-square design is cancer and heterogenous arch doesn't solve problems, it only creates them. The K.I.S.S. principle exists for a reason.

 

[nomdeplume]

I should note despite this being an unsquare Intel thread that the very squared off designs also have contact frames on the market.
Worth noting even if this topic intends directing focus towards the importance of a situation surrounding Intel's release this week.

 

[ir_cow]

Thermal Grizzly already said that the current 1700 won't fit because the socket alignment is slightly different.

 

[OolongGoat]

I have been using the Thermalright ones for LGA1700 and AM5 without issue.

 

[nomdeplume]

Thermal Grizzly already said that the current 1700 won't fit because the socket alignment is slightly different.

Was there any doubt? It is possible someone will release a product that functions on both 1700 and 1851.

 

[Deleted member 223428]

Was there any doubt? It is possible someone will release a product that functions on both 1700 and 1851.

The combination contact frame/aio mount from Arctic for the Liquid Freezer III fits both 1700 and 1851.

There is a small gap at the bottom of the frame when installed on 1700 that will allow the slightly larger IHS of the 1851 to fit.

At least that’s how Arctic explained it in their documentation.

 

[Fokker]

TG variation from the 1st (12th gen) and 2nd (13/14th gen) is the second doesn't need a torque wrench during installation. It has stops to ensure it tightens to the right amount. Both work for all LGA 1700 processors. The Thermalright contact frame works well from what I've seen in testing and my own experience. It was easily available when the initial run of the TG frame was out of stock and at a much lower price point.

 

[nomdeplume]

The combination contact frame/aio mount from Arctic for the Liquid Freezer III fits both 1700 and 1851.

Interesting, coolers have traditionally worked across numerous sockets for AMD and Intel. Rather clever on the part of Arctic to avoid sending out free parts.

At least thus far it doesn't seem as if there has been much to differentiate between performance of non-proprietary contact frames. Certainly not enough to justify a larger spend.

TG variation from the 1st (12th gen) and 2nd (13/14th gen) is the second doesn't need a torque wrench during installation. It has stops to ensure it tightens to the right amount.

Equally interesting.

 

[ir_cow]

least thus far it doesn't seem as if there has been much to differentiate between performance of non-proprietary contact frames. Certainly not enough to justify a larger spend.

No difference I can tell for Ambient temps at least. Its really more about running higher frequency memory or that last 2-3c which is 50-100Mhz with using any contact frame.