socket 1151, help to choose.

[landstad]

Wich 1151 motherboard should I go with ?

What phase should i be looking for ?
Kinda want to OC a bit.

Not gonna buy it rigth this moment, but are putting a rig togheter and see how much it will cost me. and the list goes on...

 

[horik]

Depends on how much you want to spend.
The one I would chose for me is this http://www.pccomponentes.com/asus_z170_pro_gaming.html
It has a good price, allows for great OC, plenty of connections.
Review here:http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/mainboard/85253-asus-z170-pro-gaming/

 

[Bill_Bright]

Not gonna buy it rigth this moment,

Then be very flexible. And don't buy piecemeal either. Save your money and buy all at once - especially for things that are frequently revised and updated like motherboards and graphics cards. Too many times I have seen users buy over a period of several months only to find the part they bought has already been superseded, or Intel or AMD released a new CPU they would rather have. Plus the warranty starts from the date of purchase, not the date you finally put it all together.

Since the 1151 supports the Skylake processor and that is still very new, you can expect the prices to drop as more and more motherboard offerings from more and more makers become available.

Finally, understand one of, if not the most critical purchases and purchasing decisions will be the PSU - yet it must also be one of your last purchases. Do not even think of shaving pennies off the budget with a cheap PSU. Get a quality PSU from a reliable maker, preferably one that is 80-PLUS Gold, or at least Bronze. 80-Plus does not guarantee quality, but 80-Plus supplies must be at least 80% efficient across a full range of expected loads and it takes a decent design and better parts to achieve that over your basic supply that cannot pass 80-Plus certification.

And it must be one of your last purchases because you need to know your power requirements first, thinking ahead of any upgrades you might do in 2 or 3 years so you don't have to buy a new PSU just because you want a more power hungry graphics card.

 

[RejZoR]

Any quirks as far as PSU's go? I remember there was some panic for C7 state on newer CPU's and older PSU's, is that still a thing or was it really even a thing? I have a high end PSU (Corsair HX750, 750W 80+ Silver, analog circuitry), but it's from around 2010, meaning it has no understanding of fiddly electronics used in Broadwell, Haswell or Skylake CPU's. How's with that?

 

[Bill_Bright]

With quality supplies of sufficient power and the necessary connections, it is usually not a problem. But since that is a totally different topic, best not to hijack landstad's thread and not run this on OT.

 

[RejZoR]

It's not off-topic at all. He's clearly planning to make a big shift by buying a new platform and I think questions like this are important as well. hell, I have a more powerful unit than he does and I'm wondering this...

As for the overclocking, I think some can be achieved with pretty much any that offers overclocking. If you go with known brand name like ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, AsRock etc you should be fine. AsRock used to be more OC friendly on cheap boards because that set them apart from the rest of board makers. Not sure how's that today but I think they are still focused on cheap overclocker boards.

Personally, I'd go with AsRock Extreme 7+ or ASUS Maximus VIII Hero. They are jolly expensive, but motherboard is something that will stay with you the longest so it's worth spending some more on it. I've gone for the highest end back then with the Rampage II Gene and it has served me great for 6 years. I've had cheaper boards before but they were all horribly quirky and they quickly started showing weird problems where this ROG Gene board has survived 6 years of torture in small case at quite high clocks. Sure it's always down to price and personal taste, but I tell you, it's worth it. At least from my experience.

 

[Bill_Bright]

He's asking about motherboards and you were asking about PSUs and specifically your Corsair and that could have gone into a long (but interesting!) side discussion. But now we are back on track so no big deal.

I too like ASUS and ASRock motherboards and have done a lot of builds with them. But Gigabyte is my preferred board and what I use for all my personal builds. The Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P just came out today and it is interesting because it supports USB 3.1 which may be significant down the road. It also supports a massive 64Gb of RAM - though few people will actually need or could use that amount - not to mention 16Gb sticks are still outrageously expensive.

 

[newconroer]

He's asking about motherboards and you were asking about PSUs and specifically your Corsair and that could have gone into a long (but interesting!) side discussion. But now we are back on track so no big deal.

I too like ASUS and ASRock motherboards and have done a lot of builds with them. But Gigabyte is my preferred board and what I use for all my personal builds. The Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P just came out today and it is interesting because it supports USB 3.1 which may be significant down the road. It also supports a massive 64Gb of RAM - though few people will actually need or could use that amount - not to mention 16Gb sticks are still outrageously expensive.

It was you that brought up the importance of a quality PSU - particularly with a new build and since RejZor has fortunately reminded us that newer CPUs/motherboards have additional power functions and features that may influence a power supply purchase.
I would think that landstad and any one else looking at 1151 motherboards, would find this helpful.

 

[RejZoR]

I'm feed up with quirkiness of my system so I'm currently on a lookout for Skylake as well and quite frankly I'd like to know that as well. I think OP is not even aware of this potential issue...

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Wich 1151 motherboard should I go with ?

What phase should i be looking for ?
Kinda want to OC a bit.

Not gonna buy it rigth this moment, but are putting a rig togheter and see how much it will cost me. and the list goes on...

What is your budget? What are your requirements? SLI? Micro-Atx? Overclocking? Extreme Overclocking?There are a lot of different choices for 1151 so you need to provide more info. Are you keeping the current case?

 

[landstad]

What is your budget? What are your requirements? SLI? Micro-Atx? Overclocking? Extreme Overclocking?There are a lot of different choices for 1151 so you need to provide more info.

i really don't know my budget yet, waiting for some after payment. (that i dont know how much is )

What's micro atx ?

Regular overclocking.. but it should be able to do extreme oc also, if i find out i wanna geek on that.

basicly looking for one that's a good overclocker.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128833
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130869 - I like this one a lot...but don't want to wait. haha.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132568
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128834
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132565 - Asus _Most of the benchmarks I have seen with the 6700k at 4.8-5.2Ghz have been on this board. But I think that has to do with this was one of the first boards released with 1151.

Those are the top 5 on my list all are very strong OC boards with lots of goodies. The top 2 because they already have integrated waterblocks on the vregs if you want to expand into watercooling.

I am also watching the ASROCK top end mobo, as my opinion on ASROCK has changed a lot. They have had some really nice boards at great prices. Wasn't a fan of them a few years back but they are pretty strong now.

 

[RejZoR]

somethingATX is the size of the motherboard. ITX is considered the smallest and ATX-E is the largest. If you are usnusre, stick with the "ATX" format (normal size). microATX and similar specific dimensions are only for those who have very specific needs.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

First off, I agree with Bill that you shouldn't go piecemeal, especially with something like MBs. There will be revisions, price drops, new models coming out with more features, etc.

Also, choosing a MB is a very personal preference thing. It depends a lot on what features you want. For instance M.2 Ultra and ALC1150 interest me due to blazing SSD speed and excellent sound, but it may not be your thing.

I like the Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5. It's reasonably priced ($170 USD), has 12 Phase power with digital controller, ALC1150 with replaceable OpAmps and 2.5x, 6x switchable gain. Stainless shielding on Pci Ex slots to resist sheering from heavy GPUs. Not one but TWO M.2 Ultra x4 slots that can be run in RAID, 6 SATA III ports, and Type-C USB. It also uses very high grade caps throughout.

Imagine 2 of these running in RAID for OS, programs, and a handful of the current games you're playing. (Newegg has some incorrect specs. Actual speed for the 256GB model is 2,150MB/s Read, 1,260MB/s write.)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147425

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128836&cm_re=ALC1150-_-13-128-836-_-Product

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5498#ov

 

[RejZoR]

I can't decide between AsRock Extreme7+ and ASUS VIII Hero. I've ruled out Gigabyte, they always had shitty power supply circuitry and faked 5000 trillion chokes and even with Ultra Durable boards, they don't even bother to mention if they use any premium capacitors or chokes. There is MSI, but I have kinda mixed feelings about it.

Have no clue what to even conside from the ASUS Z170 normal range (those blue and white/silver themed mobos). Deluxe is a bit much, but I have no idea how much worthy are the basic models...

 

[Frag_Maniac]

...they don't even bother to mention if they use any premium capacitors or chokes.

Can you read?

"Long Lifespan Durable Black™ Solid Caps
GIGABYTE motherboards integrate the absolute best quality solid state capacitors that are rated to perform at maximum efficiency for extended periods, even in extreme performance configurations. With ultra-low ESR no matter how high the CPU load, this provides peace of mind for end users who want to push their system hard, yet demand absolute reliability and stability. These exclusive capacitors also come in customized jet black, exclusively on GIGABYTE motherboards."

...and even on the audio circuit...

"High End Audio Capacitors
GIGABYTE G1™ Gaming motherboards use high end, Japanese branded Nichicon audio capacitors. These professional audio capacitors deliver the highest quality sound resolution and sound expansion to create the most realistic sound effects for professional gamers."

Source: http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5498#ov (<which is the same link I just posted above)

 

[tabascosauz]

The 10k cap epeen war is not exactly relevant these days. They're all polymers anyways. What's under those heatsinks over the MOSFETs is more important. Gigabyte has always been open about their usually IR VRM designs; their new boards look pretty awesome too with the white accents.

Time and time again even the non-OC boards from Gigabyte have proven themselves at over clocking decently thanks to GB's reliance on IR.

@RejZoR I think it was EVGA that stated that Skylake features no new shenanigans in terms of power states.

It's too bad that Sin hasn't been updating his VRM list. We may be looking at a resurgence of VRM quality importance since Haswell FIVR is not here in Skylake.

 

[Bill_Bright]

It was you that brought up the importance of a quality PSU

Yes, but my advice was speaking generally about purchasing a new PSU. RejZor was asking about his own 5 year old Corsair PSU being compatible.

But yes - I too fell into it and am guilty with my comments about motherboards. So we ALL need to get back on-topic and let landstad drive the thread and not drive it OT with our own concerns.

I can't decide between AsRock Extreme7+ and ASUS VIII Hero.

Again, this is landstad's thread. Let's not hijack and drive his thread off his topic - it is not fair to him.

What's micro atx ?

Micro ATX means the motherboard is smaller in size, but still complies with the ATX form factor standard for connections, voltages, and mounting points. A micro ATX motherboard will fit in smaller cases but a micro ATX motherboard will also fit inside a mid or full tower ATX case. Typically, the main difference is the micro ATX motherboard will support fewer expansion cards and typically only two slots for RAM. Otherwise, it is totally compatible with every other ATX device, like ATX power supplies and cases.

 

[RejZoR]

Not fair to him on what level? He has no clue what he wants. Maybe he'll get some idea of talks from my end...

 

[Bill_Bright]

Not fair to him on what level?

Because it is not your thread. 1st you post about your own 5 years old PSU and now you post that YOU cannot decide on which motherboard, then spew misinformation about Gigabyte caps - as Frag easily pointed was wrong.

microATX and similar specific dimensions are only for those who have very specific needs.

Only for those with very specific needs??? Huh? That is not true at all. If anything, the microATX is probably the most generic size motherboard simply because it can be used in small, medium and full size cases, often is very affordable, yet, depending on model, provides outstanding performance - while supporting only 2 or 3 expansion cards and two sticks of RAM instead of 6 or more card and 4 or more sticks of RAM.

Now I am not a mod here so it is not my place to keep on with this and drive this OT in yet another direction. I will just post as a reminder that this is landstad's thread and if this were our thread and we were asking questions, we would not want others to hijack our threads with their own personal hardware concerns and indecisions. So until landstad returns with more questions, I will not pursue this OT line further because it is NOT fair to him.

 

[landstad]

Got second tougths on the skylake.. seems to be quite more expensive than it's worth.

What If I choose the i7-4790k..
I could just use my old memory, and PSU..

what MB and GPU, Would be recomended ?

Mb with a good phase due to overclocking. in the price range of 200-230 USD.

How doe's the AMD GPU's work with intel ?




What about, ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VII HERO, Socket-1150. Is that the best one in this class ?
is there any cheaper one's that's does quite the same..

 

[Cvrk]

thinking ahead of any upgrades you might do in 2 or 3 years so you don't have to buy a new PSU just because you want a more power hungry graphics card.

for me that has always been a problem.

 

[RejZoR]

GPU is irrelevant to the processor. It'll work the same on AMD or Intel platform. It's just a matter of how fast the CPU is and not so much of what brand...

If you don't mind owning a "last gen" CPU, yeah you could save quite some bucks re-using old RAM and PSU on LGA1150.

 

[landstad]

GPU is irrelevant to the processor. It'll work the same on AMD or Intel platform. It's just a matter of how fast the CPU is and not so much of what brand...

If you don't mind owning a "last gen" CPU, yeah you could save quite some bucks re-using old RAM and PSU on LGA1150.

Thanks..

Any thougth on what MB i should look into, also what cooler is a good one, (water)..
maybe the h100i is a good choice ?

planing on get, Corsair Carbide Air 540 Cube Case..(https://www.komplett.no/corsair-carbide-air-540-cube-case-hvit/806302)



https://www.komplett.no/k/cart.aspx just an example, look guys and tell what you think..

TOTAL PRICE : 948 USD

 

[RejZoR]

Frankly, you can't go wrong with any ASUS ROG board. They are a bit more expensive, but they are (all) also very good. Same goes for Corsair stuff. It's really hard to find crappy Corsair product...