The return of Microsoft virtualization-based security

ThaiTaffy · Oct 1, 2021

So according to tech outlets clean installs and some windows 11 prebuilts will ship with the dreaded bloatware enabled once again.
Thankfully back almost 2 years ago Microsoft made the decision to disable the feature in Windows 10 which was tanking gamers FPS but due to their new crush on Apple's looks and security they are pushing vbs once again.

R-T-B · Oct 1, 2021

I don't know what you mean by "bloatware"

On the modern chips that support MBEC (which all supported W11 chips do), it works rather light. I don't even notice it on my workstation gaming on vs off, so I leave it on now.

ThaiTaffy · Oct 1, 2021

28% drop in FPS in some games doesn't seem very light.

R-T-B · Oct 1, 2021

ThaiTaffy said:
25% drop in FPS in some games doesn't seem very light.

That'd be on nonsupported hardware using restricted mode, yeah.

There's no computer that is new thats going to ship that way. And no fresh install turns it on by default. So... what are we worried about?

ThaiTaffy · Oct 1, 2021

i7 10700k on z490 no idea about the technical details, your the security expert.

P4-630 · Oct 1, 2021

Windows 11 General Discussion

Much appreciated

www.techpowerup.com

ThaiTaffy · Oct 1, 2021

P4-630 said:
Windows 11 General Discussion

Much appreciated

www.techpowerup.com

Sorry didn't realize it was being discussed elsewhere

R-T-B · Oct 1, 2021

ThaiTaffy said:
i7 10700k on z490 no idea about the technical details, your the security expert.

You shouldn't be seeing 25%.

You may have a misbehaving driver for this new mode. Eitherway, the good news is you can always turn it off and it's benefits are... mixed. You won't be missing too much, security wise.

95Viper · Oct 1, 2021

P4-630 said:
Windows 11 General Discussion

Much appreciated

www.techpowerup.com

ThaiTaffy said:
Sorry didn't realize it was being discussed elsewhere

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Processor	3600x
Motherboard	Msi b550m Mortar +WiFi
Cooling	Cryorig m9
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Video Card(s)	Powercolor rx570 4gb
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Display(s)	Samsung 65" TU7100
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Audio Device(s)	Yamaha rx-v363
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Motherboard	MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk Wifi
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon, Phanteks and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
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Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
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Motherboard	Msi b550m Mortar +WiFi
Cooling	Cryorig m9
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Display(s)	Samsung 65" TU7100
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Mouse	Logitech g300s
Keyboard	Custom Skyloong sk64s
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The return of Microsoft virtualization-based security

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