Torrents Hog Entire Connection

[DaveK]

Whenever I open uTorrent and download, it seems to hog the entire connection, Xbox Live is useless as is streaming music and video and browsing the net on the laptop I'm using is really bad, it's slow and every second page seems to fail to load.

20Mb downloads at approx 2,500kbps and my torrents are downloading at between 150-250kbps, so shouldn't that leave room for other devices just like on my PC? i.e if downloading torrents at 200kbps, other downloads on Firefox can use the rest of the speed.

Even with bandwidth allocation set to low, it doesn't help nor does downloading just a couple of things, it seems I can't do both, I'd like to be able to play over Xbox Live or just stream a video from my PC.

I'd prefer if I was even just able to download at like 25kbps or something if I can use my 360 properly, just as long as some progress get's done on my downloads. It's not even just playing and streaming on my Xbox, just logging in and browsing through the marketplace doesn't work properly. Browsing the net on my own PC is fine though a littler slower than usual, but anything else trying to use the net won't work or when it does it doesn't work properly.

Everything is wireless, the router is open and it's N1 so it has pretty good range meaning my cheap neighbours are probably using it, though there's no guarantee but I can pick up a router from 3 houses down the street, so there's probably 10 houses that can pickup our 20Mb connection, another person has an open connection which is 3Mb and I doubt others have as fast a connection as us.

Could it be the upload speed? My upload is a measly 1.5Mb and is approx 175kbps and my torrent upload is capped at 145kbps which doesn't leave much left.

I'm moving house on the 21st and might be able to put the modem and router in my room, would it help if I connected my 360 via ethernet?

 

[Kenshai]

Yes your upload rate is what is dragging your speed down, limit it to 10-15% of your bandwidth if you want to continue doing other things.

 

[CarolinaKSU]

have you tried doing the things in this thread?

lowering your net.max_halfopen to 4 is what did it for me when utorrent took over my connection too. I made everyone in my house follow that guide when they setup their utorrents so that it wont bog the network down. Now everyone can torrent 24/7 and theres no slowdown!

 

[Mussels]

Lower the upload speed to less than 50% of your max upload rate.

Lower the maximum amount of connections (50 per torrent, 50 total) and set it to only run one torrent at a time.

Lower netmaxhalfopen to 4 as suggested above.


And my god put some security on there. if its open and anyone can get on, how do you know THEY arent causing this lag problem in the first palce.

 

[DaveK]

Ok, I've set the maxhalfopen to 4, limited my upload to 50% @ 85kbps, lowered the maximum number of connections to 150 with 50 per torrent and have 3 torrents running, 2 are forced downloads and the other is just random but it has a very low download speed, only connected to 2 of 57 seeds and 32 of 344 peers.

Can't put a password on the router until my mam gets home tonight, will have to let her know before I do it. Do I need to do anything special or is it just like setting a password for other things?

 

[Mussels]

Ok, I've set the maxhalfopen to 4, limited my upload to 50% @ 85kbps, lowered the maximum number of connections to 150 with 50 per torrent and have 3 torrents running, 2 are forced downloads and the other is just random but it has a very low download speed, only connected to 2 of 57 seeds and 32 of 344 peers.

Can't put a password on the router until my mam gets home tonight, will have to let her know before I do it. Do I need to do anything special or is it just like setting a password for other things?

just remember that you arent setting a password on the router, you're setting a password on the WIRELESS.

 

[kid41212003]

If your download/upload speed is 20Mbits/1.5Mbits

Use the SpeedGuide and choose the xxx/1Mbits setting.
Do not force downloads, unless that torrent has under 30 peers (included seeds).

Remove trackers that not online/working.
If there's is udp trackers, make sure to put them right under the http (same name, no tiers).
Disable DHT.

I'm always have my upload speed at 75%, and it' working really well for me.

And be a peer, not a leecher! Good luck!

 

[Mussels]

oh and theres a setting if you're looking at the peers tab, to "resolve IP's"

All it does is give the flag of what country they're from, but it does add to the amount connections if you leave that tab open.

 

[mrhuggles]

use openWRT + X-Wrt, set QoS, the ports that uTorrent is useing to Bulk, problem solved. [uses UDP and TCP both btw]

yes i know it doesn't work on incoming data, it doesn't have to, using QoS on outgoing data will obviously affect incoming data plus everybody has 10 times the incoming bandwidth as they do outgoing...

by it will affect incoming data i mean, these are not unsolicited packets

 

[Fitseries3]

the one and only thing you need to do is limit your upload speed to 10kb

 

[Mussels]

the one and only thing you need to do is limit your upload speed to 10kb

which then defeats the entire purpose of torrents.

 

[Fitseries3]

hey... its on utorrents setup instructions.

 

[kyle2020]

Im so glad I stumbled across this thread, usually I have to set my torrents running when im going out or having a shower etc as my internet slows way too much whilst downloading. Plus I cant play games whilst utorrent is grinding away either.

Going to try the suggestions now, cheers

*edit*

OMGOSH.

Yep this works. Im able to browse the web and torrent at the same time with no slow down. Limited my upload to 10kb, did the max.net trick, IP resolving, yadda yadda yadda - not only can I browse the web smoothly my download rate has almost doubled. Yeah, im pretty impressed right now

Trying games now. Online games I mean, such as TF:2.

 

[Gzero]

Wow amazing that people eat up their own upload bandwidth and then wonder why nothing is working...

If you want to see a bad example of a p2p downloader, go look at the wow patching downloader (ghastly).

 

[kyle2020]

I agree haha. Its not worth it, even when doing it to play free servers. *shudders*

 

[DaveK]

Well, I couldn't sign into Xbox Live but I'm able to stream video which is a big plus because there isn't a couch in my bedroom lol, but it's a start. Thanks for the tips guys.

 

[wiak]

if you got 12/1mbit connection then just set torrents to download at 1050 kb/s
and upload on 60 kb/s

that way you got 40 kb/s left up and around 200 kb/s left down for other things

 

[Geofrancis]

most people don't realise to download you also need upload for the confirmation of a received packet so if you have no upload you cant send a packet saying you received the one they sent to they wont send another until the packet gets through. find a program that monitors the raw bandwidth going through your network connection and start downloading and watch your upload being choked. a good program is samurize it can monitor anything almost on your computer and it can be set as part of the desktop like the windows sidebar.

 

[Easy Rhino]

this thread reminds me that perhaps we should put together a networking 101 article.

 

[Gzero]

Geo, what chance does a user have with samurize if they don't understand how to config their p2p client accordingly? lol.

 

[Geofrancis]

good point

is there a more user friendly program that does the same thing?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I use the mac address access list method to secure my router,basicly if their mac address is not on the list,it does not let them connect.Its much simpler than wep etc,and theres no way anyone can hack it.

 

[Easy Rhino]

I use the mac address access list method to secure my router,basicly if their mac address is not on the list,it does not let them connect.Its much simpler than wep etc,and theres no way anyone can hack it.

yea MAC addressing is very solid but it can be hacked. everything can be hacked. granted you have to be incredibly good at it.

 

[Darren]

I use the mac address access list method to secure my router,basicly if their mac address is not on the list,it does not let them connect.Its much simpler than wep etc,and theres no way anyone can hack it.

That is extremely dangerous. Mac Addresses can be cloned, you can download a freeware application that can edit and clone a wireless network or physical network's address with a quick few presses.


You need the WEP encryption or some other form of encryption.

Edit:

WEP can also be hacked fairly easily. on the other hand, WPA2 would take a powerful supercomputer years and year to hack.

I'm not recommending WEP, he can use whatever encryption method he wants, but he would be better off with encryption than relying on some "MAC address matching" feature.

 

[Easy Rhino]

That is extremely dangerous. Mac Addresses can be cloned, you can download a freeware application that can edit and clone a wireless network or physical network's address with a quick few presses.


You need the WEP encryption or some other form of encryption.

WEP can also be hacked fairly easily. on the other hand, WPA2 would take a powerful supercomputer years and year to hack.