trying to OC Ram. XMP wont post

[jonnyIndi0]

Im running i7-12700kf asus tuf gaming z690 plus wifi 6000Mhz cl36 ddr5 ram
by specs MB allows up to 6000. i7 however allows up to 5200. currently in boot made it says im running at 4000 and it wont post when i enable XMP. ive tried lowering freq. to 5200 or even 4800 but not sure how to adjust voltage so it wont post even at lower freq. timing also, do i need to adjust this to make this a stable gaming PC? id really love if someone could help me out here.

 

[Macro Device]

Either you got completely unlucky with IMC or your RAM is faulty. XMP must run without additional effort, it's a failure kit otherwise.

Or... you put your RAM in "wrong" sockets. Check if you populated the optimised sockets.

And the least possible scenario: your BIOS is unstable and BIOS update will fix it.

Exact voltages and timings of DDR5 are unknown to me, I can oly assume you need around ~1200 mV for 6 GHz CL36 but I might be miles away from facts here.

Upd: LGA1700 is prone to have malcontact with the CPU so you might want to use a special socket bracket which makes you sure everything is running correctly.

 

[P4-630]

Im running i7-12700kf asus tuf gaming z690 plus wifi 6000Mhz cl36 ddr5 ram
by specs MB allows up to 6000. i7 however allows up to 5200. currently in boot made it says im running at 4000 and it wont post when i enable XMP. ive tried lowering freq. to 5200 or even 4800 but not sure how to adjust voltage so it wont post even at lower freq. timing also, do i need to adjust this to make this a stable gaming PC? id really love if someone could help me out here.

Just buy a kit that's on the motherboard memory QVL, I have a Z690 board with i7 and mine runs 6000MHz without issues.

GL.

 

[chrcoluk]

I would see if there is a bios update, especially one that says improved memory performance or improved memory compatibility.

Otherwise you may need to bump some voltages, SA or VDDQ would be my guess.

 

[P4-630]

I would see if there is a bios update, especially one that says improved memory performance or improved memory compatibility.

Or This ^ yes..

 

[chrcoluk]

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[P4-630]

Upd: LGA1700 is prone to have malcontact with the CPU so you might want to use a special socket bracket which makes you sure everything is running correctly.

The what?

The only issues you can have with a LGA 1700 CPU is that it might run hotter than usual, the brackets you can buy is to lower core temps when needed.

Mine runs fine without this bracket.

 

[jonnyIndi0]

Either you got completely unlucky with IMC or your RAM is faulty. XMP must run without additional effort, it's a failure kit otherwise.

Or... you put your RAM in "wrong" sockets. Check if you populated the optimised sockets.

And the least possible scenario: your BIOS is unstable and BIOS update will fix it.

Exact voltages and timings of DDR5 are unknown to me, I can oly assume you need around ~1200 mV for 6 GHz CL36 but I might be miles away from facts here.

Upd: LGA1700 is prone to have malcontact with the CPU so you might want to use a special socket bracket which makes you sure everything is running correctly.

i jus looked. The memory sticks are to be in DIMM2 slot. not DIMM1 which they are in ATM. ill log off change them. boost it up normally. check back. then try reboot in XMP. thanks i never thought to look. i had someone install the new MB, RAM and NVMe for me. i jus got it back and im trying to configure the OC.

 

[P4-630]

m trying to configure the OC.

Just enable XMP and be done with it.

 

[jonnyIndi0]

fixed it. the RAM were in the DIMM1 slots not DIMM2 as suppose to be. restarted. went good. so restarted and enabled XMP. boost up and running fine at 6000. thanks for the info on looking at the DIMM slots. never thought to look cause i never put them in.
Thanks to all who replied

 

[Macro Device]

The only issues you can have with a LGA 1700 CPU is that it might run hotter than usual, the brackets you can buy is to lower core temps when needed.

I am the owner of a motherboard which is unable to activate the second RAM channel with the stock socket bracket. The issue has gone as soon as I ripped it off and installed a 5-minute custom bracket extension.

Sometimes it's only temperature issues, sometimes this whacked up geometry makes more serious troubles.

thanks for the info on looking at the DIMM slots. never thought to look cause i never put them in.
Thanks to all who replied

You're welcome, dude. Glad you now have a sound system. May it serve you well!

 

[P4-630]

I am the owner of a motherboard which is unable to activate the second RAM channel with the stock socket bracket. The issue has gone as soon as I ripped it off and installed a 5-minute custom bracket extension.

You must have had a very crappy LGA 1700 socket/motherboard...
But good on you , you were able to fix it..

The only known issues about socket LGA 1700 on the internet is CPU warping, people reporting high CPU temperatures.

Cooling issues with Intel’s Alder Lake - Problems with the LGA-1700 socket and a possible workaround | igor´sLAB

Badly fitting coolers, too low performance with actually good waterblocks and bent CPUs – meanwhile not only the feedback of the readers is piling up, but also very similar reports from the board…

www.igorslab.de

Intel LGA 1700 socket problem??

Found this, its about the LGA 1700 CPU/socket bending causing bad temps. Pretty interesting. Glad i'm using the EK block with the pretty hefty EK LGA 1700 plate. https://www.igorslab.de/en/bad-cooling-at-alder-lake-problems-at-socket-lga-1700-on-the-lane-among-all-remedies/

www.techpowerup.com

I have a E-ATX Z690 board myself which comes with a full backplate, I'm glad I'm having no issues.

 

[chrcoluk]

Guessing a daisy chain board given the solution I wish t-topology was used on all boards.

 

[Dahita]

For a bit of feedback in case that doesn't solve things for others stumbling across this thread, I had a voltage issue with XMP on a x470 board (compatilble with 3600mhz RAM by OC), using an AMD 2700x and some Gskill 3600mhz 2x8Gb memory. XMP settings wouldn't work, but manually setting the voltage fixed it. Strangely enough, switching down the road to an AMD 5950x fixed the issue.

 

[ir_cow]

Daisy-chain is way cheaper and easier to implement. I just assume the other 2 DIMMs slots are worthless and can only run at half speed.

t-topology requires all the traces to be the same length. Tricky to do if you think about it.

Strangely enough, switching down the road to an AMD 5950x fixed the issue.

Zen1+ vs Zen3. Different IMCs.

 

[Macro Device]

You must have had a very crappy LGA 1700 socket

Yes.

motherboard...

No. This system works wonders on my bro's work. Anyway, you need to never underestimate the impact of distorted geometry.