"Updating Your System" Message on ROG/Boot Screen- Any Ideas?

[LeSandwich]

this happened 2 months ago and as far as I've seen, this hasn't happened since. I don't recall there ever being a pending or installing Windows Update at this time, but before shutting down, I did uninstall several built-in Optional Features in the Settings


so basically after doing that, and turning the PC back on, the screen, keyboard, and mouse were all black; however, the PC was on and none of the motherboard LEDs were hanging unusually. this had never happened before


I eventually forced a shut down with the power button and restarted the computer again. this time however, on the ROG screen (I have an Asus B550 board, so when I boot, it displays the Republic of Gamers logo), instead of showing the usual "Press Del or F2 to enter UEFI Bios" message, it said this:

"Updating Your System [100%]"

this has also never happened before. it didn't linger for too long, maybe about 3-5 seconds before continuing on to the Windows blue screen that said "Working on Updates" or "Installing Windows Updates"

this screen lasted for barely a second before proceeding normally to the sign in screen. the keyboard was still unresponsive and off, so I unplugged it and reconnected it, which got it working again


I immediately checked Event Viewer Application, System, and Security logs for updates or hints but found nothing. I also checked with MalwareBytes and Windows Defender for anything with 0 detections

next, I checked with the CBS logs which did have something different in there. I've attached the image of the log at the time


anyone have any ideas what this could've been? unfortunate corruption potentially caused by uninstalling stuff from Optional Features? no Bios settings were altered. I'm just a bit confused why I saw the "Updating Your System" message on the RIG/boot screen. that's not usual, at least for me, since usually that kind of message only occurs on the typical Windows Update screen w/ the blue background



forgive the god awful censoring attempts on the attachment, I didn't know what I should or shouldn't blur out so I just started scribbling over numbers

 

[tabascosauz]

The ROG logo doesn't mean anything. You haven't disabled Boot Logo at startup, so it just persists in place of the Windows 10/11 logo. The progress spinner and messages will still show underneath it, but there will be no Windows logo and the ROG logo will be in its place. It's well past the POST process.

It just sounds like Windows is probably overdue for a clean install. Windows Update trips over itself all the time.

 

[AMF]

this will happen if for some reason u shut down windows or it crashed before it had a chance to update in background. if it keeps doing it every reboot system restore to before last update

 

[LeSandwich]

The ROG logo doesn't mean anything. You haven't disabled Boot Logo at startup, so it just persists in place of the Windows 10/11 logo. The progress spinner and messages will still show underneath it, but there will be no Windows logo and the ROG logo will be in its place. It's well past the POST process.

It just sounds like Windows is probably overdue for a clean install. Windows Update trips over itself all the time.

yeah but I've never seen it before and I usually hang around at my desk during updates; it's never done "Updating Your System" at the ROG screen. plus I thought Windows isn't loaded during that screen? but I also don't really have much knowledge on when Windows does and doesn't load so what do I know


the thing is that there were no Windows Updates at the time. I looked in Settings and looked everywhere in Event Viewer, there simply were not Windows Updates matching the time, and there was nothing earlier to say Windows had downloaded or was pending an update

this will happen if for some reason u shut down windows or it crashed before it had a chance to update in background. if it keeps doing it every reboot system restore to before last update

it doesn't happen every reboot, it was this one time (so far) 2 months ago, after I forced the shutdown because it was just unresponsive. I'm still not even sure why it did that in the first place

like I said, maybe uninstalling stuff from the Optional Features caused it to accidentally corrupt or mess up once I restarted. then after that, it did an "Update" to restore things


The BCD Tickler stuff in my attachment in the CBS log doesn't happen on every Windows Update afaik, this was specific to this situation.

BCD is the Boot Config Data and whatnot so that's where my concern came from. was initially concerned that it was flatout corruption or some really bad malware (bootkit)

 

[AMF]

yeah but I've never seen it before and I usually hang around at my desk during updates; it's never done "Updating Your System" at the ROG screen. plus I thought Windows isn't loaded during that screen? but I also don't really have much knowledge on when Windows does and doesn't load so what do I know


the thing is that there were no Windows Updates at the time. I looked in Settings and looked everywhere in Event Viewer, there simply were not Windows Updates matching the time, and there was nothing earlier to say Windows had downloaded or was pending an update


it doesn't happen every reboot, it was this one time (so far) 2 months ago, after I forced the shutdown because it was just unresponsive. I'm still not even sure why it did that in the first place

like I said, maybe uninstalling stuff from the Optional Features caused it to accidentally corrupt or mess up once I restarted. then after that, it did an "Update" to restore things


The BCD Tickler stuff in my attachment in the CBS log doesn't happen on every Windows Update afaik, this was specific to this situation.

BCD is the Boot Config Data and whatnot so that's where my concern came from. was initially concerned that it was flatout corruption or some really bad malware (bootkit)

did u run sfc/scannow ?

 

[LeSandwich]

did u run sfc/scannow ?

at the time, I did. it did say it detected store corruption and repaired it but I hadn't done an sfc scan for a month so it would've said that no matter what. didn't really base anything off that

 

[tabascosauz]

yeah but I've never seen it before and I usually hang around at my desk during updates; it's never done "Updating Your System" at the ROG screen. plus I thought Windows isn't loaded during that screen? but I also don't really have much knowledge on when Windows does and doesn't load so what do I know


the thing is that there were no Windows Updates at the time. I looked in Settings and looked everywhere in Event Viewer, there simply were not Windows Updates matching the time, and there was nothing earlier to say Windows had downloaded or was pending an update


it doesn't happen every reboot, it was this one time (so far) 2 months ago, after I forced the shutdown because it was just unresponsive. I'm still not even sure why it did that in the first place

like I said, maybe uninstalling stuff from the Optional Features caused it to accidentally corrupt or mess up once I restarted. then after that, it did an "Update" to restore things


The BCD Tickler stuff in my attachment in the CBS log doesn't happen on every Windows Update afaik, this was specific to this situation.

BCD is the Boot Config Data and whatnot so that's where my concern came from. was initially concerned that it was flatout corruption or some really bad malware (bootkit)

If the "press Del to enter Setup" message has disappeared but boot logo remains, then the board has already passed POST, and any shenanigans at that point should usually be attributed to Windows.

This is why I always disable boot logo and show POST report instead, it clearly delineates the threshold between BIOS and OS.

There should never be any scenario in which the POST message (enter Setup) is not displayed yet the system boots properly. The singular exception I know is a rare kind of BIOS corruption that results in a working BIOS and POST screen but no display at all until reaching Windows. More likely the display just happened to turn on late or you weren't looking at that very moment.

In any case, it doesn't look like this is a recent or urgent issue, so just check SFC and DISM and consider doing a clean install. Inexplicable Windows Update shenanigans happens all the time, without rhyme or reason.

 

[LeSandwich]

If the "press Del to enter Setup" message has disappeared but boot logo remains, then the board has already passed POST, and any shenanigans at that point should usually be attributed to Windows.

This is why I always disable boot logo and show POST report instead, it clearly delineates the threshold between BIOS and OS.

There should never be any scenario in which the POST message (enter Setup) is not displayed yet the system boots properly. The singular exception I know is a rare kind of BIOS corruption that results in a working BIOS and POST screen but no display at all until reaching Windows. More likely the display just happened to turn on late or you weren't looking at that very moment.

In any case, it doesn't look like this is a recent or urgent issue, so just check SFC and DISM and consider doing a clean install. Inexplicable Windows Update shenanigans happens all the time, without rhyme or reason.

it just happened again, although not under the same circumstance. there was no hanging black screen forcing me to manually shutdown the PC, but I came out of the Bios and I guess it triggered the pending Cumulative Update I had


no ROG screen but there was just a black screen with the spinning wheel saying "Updating Your System", and then after a minute it continued to the proper blue background Windows Update screen


I wasn't in the Bios last time nor were there any pending updates or any new updates (I've checked Event Viewer as much as possible) but this time it seems like coming out of Bios triggers any pending Update

 

[tabascosauz]

I wasn't in the Bios last time nor were there any pending updates or any new updates (I've checked Event Viewer as much as possible) but this time it seems like coming out of Bios triggers any pending Update

Like I said, this is literally just old and/or damaged Windows install shenanigans. Check sfc and DISM health, but if Windows is an old install chances are it will change nothing. Do a clean install if it's been more than 2 years, Win10/11 doesn't just last forever without problems.

 

[LeSandwich]

Like I said, this is literally just old and/or damaged Windows install shenanigans. Check sfc and DISM health, but if Windows is an old install chances are it will change nothing. Do a clean install if it's been more than 2 years, Win10/11 doesn't just last forever without problems.

Windows install was fresh in February and sfc/dism scans have been fine; this time it just seems like it did the "Updating Your System" on the boot/black screen because I was in the Bios beforehand

although I was also in the Bios last night, which triggered a .NET Cumulative Update and that didn't have any 'Updating System' on the ROG/black screen

I don't remember if .NET updates go through that whole "Windows is Updating" screen when you restart though


guess I shouldn't into Bios with pending updates so I don't spook myself