What's your latest tech purchase?

Mussels · Mar 28, 2023

droid-I said:
That is why I never went into WDS, tried a couple times out of curiosity, but have so much wireless IT stuff here.

That's why i went mesh, i regret the *brand* i chose, but not the mesh as a whole. Got a friend onto a budget tenda setup and he's got the dream experience of AC1200 mesh with eth out at every repeater, and a good 60MB/s throughput off a 30Mb/s internet connection
(Yes, Bytes vs bits there)

WonkoTheSaneUK said:
Arch Linux.

Oh no, THATS why the arch linux people have been insufferable lately

I'll have to try it one day, but that day can be in the far future

GreiverBlade · Mar 28, 2023

VSG said:
No idea!

ahah, well, i am going with one of your recommendation for my first Isodynamic driver cans

VSG said:
Awesome news, I look forward to seeing what you go with!

seeing that tomorrow

edit: maybe not ... delivery status show : reported :laugh:

usually it means 1 or 2 days delay :oops:

also purchase related for today :

Battletech i know and i know i will enjoy it ...
Ghostrunner, not sure but the style suits me, MGR : Revengeance well, i did hold too long ... so, fitting : "Jack is back!" (i love over the top action games ...)
Troubleshooter : Abandoned Children, hum ... it was 50% discounted and it's a turn based SRPG, yep should be fine :laugh:

(and a Korean SRPG at that ... no wonder the graphism and character design made me think of Eternal Return )

GerKNG · Mar 28, 2023

Space Lynx · Mar 28, 2023

GerKNG said:
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I am confused as to why you keep buying stuff when you already have a 4090 lol

GerKNG · Mar 28, 2023

Space Lynx said:
I am confused as to why you keep buying stuff when you already have a 4090 lol

for the same reason why jay leno has more than one car

Space Lynx · Mar 28, 2023

GerKNG said:
for the same reason why jay leno has more than one car

this is a very good comeback, I love it lol. it is true, I get it.

I recommend the steam deck if you don't already own one. its fucking amazing.

GerKNG · Mar 28, 2023

Space Lynx said:
this is a very good comeback, I love it lol. it is true, I get it.

I recommend the steam deck if you don't already own one. its fucking amazing.

i just bought one a couple weeks ago

played easily 40-50 hours with it so far.

Space Lynx · Mar 28, 2023

GerKNG said:
i just bought one a couple weeks ago played easily 40-50 hours with it so far.

I have been really enjoying getting cozy in bed and playing the steam deck, I am honestly gaming now more than any other time in my life, mainly because my comfort level has increased.

I work at a desk.
I study at a desk.
I read at a desk (If I read in bed I fall asleep lol)

so basically I am tired of sitting at a fucking desk.

steam deck solved a problem I didn't realize I had until it was in my hands.

Calmmo · Mar 28, 2023

Space Lynx said:
I have been really enjoying getting cozy in bed and playing the steam deck, I am honestly gaming now more than any other time in my life, mainly because my comfort level has increased.

I work at a desk.
I study at a desk.
I read at a desk (If I read in bed I fall asleep lol)

so basically I am tired of sitting at a fucking desk.

steam deck solved a problem I didn't realize I had until it was in my hands.

I mostly use my switch from the couch, variety achieved

Space Lynx · Mar 28, 2023

Calmmo said:
I mostly use my switch from the couch, variety achieved

I can't do the Switch, it hurts my hands/no ergonomics to it. The steam deck is just so comfortable to hold its unbelievable really.

oxrufiioxo · Mar 28, 2023

Calmmo said:
I mostly use my switch from the couch, variety achieved

Mine just sits in drawer... Sometimes I see it when I'm looking for something and it reminds me I have one.... lol.

I hate handheld gaming personally but glad the steamdeck/switch is there for people who like it.

Calmmo · Mar 28, 2023

Space Lynx said:
I can't do the Switch, it hurts my hands/no ergonomics to it. The steam deck is just so comfortable to hold its unbelievable really.

Try the hori joycons, they're pretty good and cheap!

wNotyarD · Mar 28, 2023

Space Lynx said:
I can't do the Switch, it hurts my hands/no ergonomics to it. The steam deck is just so comfortable to hold its unbelievable really.

The trick to use the Switch handheld is a good case. I personally recommend Skull & Co's.

That or aftermarket Joycons.

Mussels · Mar 29, 2023

Space Lynx said:
I am confused as to why you keep buying stuff when you already have a 4090 lol

He's the Gherkin King, no relation to Pickle Rick
But he must own more shiny things than Pickle Rick.

I'm looking at buying some sort of insect catcher or trap so i can keep feeding my

.

The search results are very tech related junk that i do not wish to buy
I wish to buy something better than amazons searching algorithms.

seriously the first ones kinda close, but the rest are waaaaay off. There were some that acted like a little vacuum chamber to slurp up the buggo and hold it, but noooo i get rubber chickens?!

Space Lynx · Mar 29, 2023

Mussels said:
He's the Gherkin King, no relation to Pickle Rick
But he must own more shiny things than Pickle Rick.

I'm looking at buying some sort of insect catcher or trap so i can keep feeding my

.
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The search results are very tech related junk that i do not wish to buy
I wish to buy something better than amazons searching algorithms.
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seriously the first ones kinda close, but the rest are waaaaay off. There were some that acted like a little vacuum chamber to slurp up the buggo and hold it, but noooo i get rubber chickens?!

I can't imagine what it would have been like being the first Australians getting dumped off on the island by a British cargo ship, all the deadly critters and such. It must have been a bit horrifying.

A never ending battle between humans and the crawlers! Let the battle begin! haha

WonkoTheSaneUK · Mar 29, 2023

Mussels said:
He's the Gherkin King, no relation to Pickle Rick
But he must own more shiny things than Pickle Rick.

I'm looking at buying some sort of insect catcher or trap so i can keep feeding my

.
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The search results are very tech related junk that i do not wish to buy
I wish to buy something better than amazons searching algorithms.
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seriously the first ones kinda close, but the rest are waaaaay off. There were some that acted like a little vacuum chamber to slurp up the buggo and hold it, but noooo i get rubber chickens?!

Don't knock the rubber chickens. Back in the last century, I once managed to down a mid-air wasp with a rubber band in that exact way.

SN2716057 · Mar 29, 2023

Got the Elgato Wave Mic Arm LP for my ZenScreen.

It will mostly be used when I'm working with my various computers.
But if needed I can easily set it up as a secondary screen at my main computer.

GreiverBlade · Mar 29, 2023

GreiverBlade said:
edit: maybe not ... delivery status show : reported usually it means 1 or 2 days delay

welp, nope ... albeit the shop saying the approvisionment was unsuccessful, i still got them today

i got a nice deal on a Edifier Stax Spirit S3 for 259chf/$

checked for reviews ... and surprise surprise first review i saw was here :laugh:

more pros than cons and cons that are trivial to me (tbf ANC is an aberration, due to the headache that it induce, to me ... i prefer Passive NC

) https://www.techpowerup.com/review/edifier-stax-spirit-s3-planar-magnetic-wireless-headphones/

and it carry from Audeze while not being as prestigious as a LCD-2, they are cheaper, and the direct ancestor for it, in price and design, the LCD-1... is discontinued

it quite surprise me ... all STAX "earspeakers" are electrostat, that one is Planar magnetic, so, why the S3 is Edifier STAX Spirit instead of Edifier x Audeze :laugh:

(although there is an EQ preset in the app, named STAX, so i guess it carries STAX Spirit indeed

)

(which made me mirror @VSG conclusion :laugh:

"There's a lot to like here, although the name is not necessarily one. Indeed, there isn't much STAX about this aside from Edifier owning the company and deciding to make STAX SPIRIT a new product line. Instead, this shares more in common with Audeze" i just saw that now ... going not TL : DR on the conclusion and only reading pros/cons )

the App is practical and out of the 3 modes STAX strangely is the one that fit my music genre the most, and it's like a second revolution ... first was when i discovered Balanced Armatures, some detail popped like i had never heard them, second well DAMN i never thought it could be so detailed ... i just love it!

they scream high end (i wonder if creaking was limited to review models

they do not creak at all ) i love the carbon fiber insert the carry case and all the accessories and out of all my High Res certified BT headset (from TWS to not too bad cans in the form of a Pioneer SE-MS7BT(S) which had a Frequency Response: 9 Hz - 22,000 Hz (Bluetooth connection), 9 Hz - 40,000 Hz (wired connection) ) it is certainly the most perfect

i use them with the fabric earpads rather than the leather one ... comfortable , actually the most comfortable cans i ever had (leather one are not bad and have a nice seal but fabric are just too perfect)

Space Lynx · Mar 29, 2023

GreiverBlade said:
welp, nope ... albeit the shop saying the approvisionment was unsuccessful, i still got them today

i got a nice deal on a Edifier Stax Spirit S3 for 259chf/$

checked for reviews ... and surprise surprise first review i saw was here more pros than cons and cons that are trivial to me (tbf ANC is an aberration, due to the headache that it induce, to me ... i prefer Passive NC ) https://www.techpowerup.com/review/edifier-stax-spirit-s3-planar-magnetic-wireless-headphones/

and it carry from Audeze while not being as prestigious as a LCD-2, they are cheaper, and the direct ancestor for it, in price and design, the LCD-1... is discontinued

it quite surprise me ... all STAX "earspeakers" are electrostat, why the Spirit S3 is Edifier STAX instead of Edifier x Audeze (although there is an EQ preset in the app, named STAX )

(which made me mirror your conclusion "There's a lot to like here, although the name is not necessarily one. Indeed, there isn't much STAX about this aside from Edifier owning the company and deciding to make STAX SPIRIT a new product line. Instead, this shares more in common with Audeze" i just saw that now ... going not TL : DR on the conclusion and only reading pros/cons )

the App is practical and out of the 3 modes STAX strangely is the one that fit my music genre the most, and it's like a second revolution ... first was when i discovered Balanced Armatures, some detail popped like i had never heard them, second well DAMN i never thought it could be so detailed ... i just love it!
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they scream high end (i wonder if creaking was limited to review models they do not creak at all ) i love the carbon fiber insert the carry case and all the accessories and out of all my High Res certified BT headset (from TWS to not too bad cans in the form of a Pioneer SE-MS7BT(S) which had a Frequency Response: 9 Hz - 22,000 Hz (Bluetooth connection), 9 Hz - 40,000 Hz (wired connection) ) it is certainly the most perfect

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wait this is a bluetooth e-stat? or is this planar? i am confused.

GreiverBlade · Mar 29, 2023

Space Lynx said:
wait this is a bluetooth e-stat? or is this planar? i am confused.

Planar (sourced from Audeze) i doubt a e-stat could run BT, STAX original product usually need a unit driver that output 580V DC

hence my "why the Spirit S3 is Edifier STAX instead of Edifier x Audeze" and VSG conclusion

Space Lynx · Mar 29, 2023

GreiverBlade said:
Planar (sourced from Audeze) i doubt a e-stat could run BT, STAX original product usually need a unit driver that output 580V DC

hence my "why the Spirit S3 is Edifier STAX instead of Edifier x Audeze" and VSG conclusion

that sentence gives me a headache. lol

GreiverBlade · Mar 29, 2023

Space Lynx said:
that sentence gives me a headache. lol

i should rework it a bit ... (to me it's ANC that give me headache :laugh:

as i mentioned

)

i searched STAX and also saw Audeze had a E-Stat, also revieved here https://www.techpowerup.com/review/audeze-crbn-electrostatic-headphones/

Shrek · Mar 29, 2023

Does a garbage disposal unit count as tech?

It is insane that some do not have stainless steel internals.

wheresmycar · Mar 29, 2023

Shrek said:
Does a garbage disposal unit count as tech?

It is insane that some do not have stainless steel internals.

when it looks like a rocket thrust/propulsion system it definitely counts as tech

Space Lynx · Mar 29, 2023

Shrek said:
Does a garbage disposal unit count as tech?

It is insane that some do not have stainless steel internals.

My friends in the UK/Europe find it really shocking so many of us Americans use garbage disposals like this. I know my gf/fiance in the UK composts all of her bio waste, so if I ate a banana, sometimes I would almost throw it away and she would be like wtf! haha jk but yeah I learned to compost, I got used it after about three weeks.

it's honestly quite funny how easy the brain adapts to new methods of doing things.

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Keyboard	Corsair K65 RGB Mini, Razer Black Widow V3 TKL
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System Name	Sunk Cost Fallacy
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASRock B650E Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120
Memory	2x16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 6000 CL30 (A-Die)
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio
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Display(s)	Alienware AW2723DF, LG 27GR93U, LG 27GN950-B
Case	Streacom BC1 V2
Audio Device(s)	Bose Companion Series 2 III, Sennheiser GSP600 and HD599 SE - Creative Soundblaster X4
Power Supply	bequiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500w Titanium
Mouse	Logitech GPRO X Superlight & G502 X
Keyboard	Corsair K65 RGB Mini, Razer Black Widow V3 TKL
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S

System Name	Sunk Cost Fallacy
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASRock B650E Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120
Memory	2x16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 6000 CL30 (A-Die)
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio
Storage	WD Black SN850X 1TB + 2x 2TB, 2x 4TB Crucial MX500, 4TB Samsung 870 Evo.
Display(s)	Alienware AW2723DF, LG 27GR93U, LG 27GN950-B
Case	Streacom BC1 V2
Audio Device(s)	Bose Companion Series 2 III, Sennheiser GSP600 and HD599 SE - Creative Soundblaster X4
Power Supply	bequiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500w Titanium
Mouse	Logitech GPRO X Superlight & G502 X
Keyboard	Corsair K65 RGB Mini, Razer Black Widow V3 TKL
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S

What's your latest tech purchase?

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