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Why does my Wireless NIC have a USB header?

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I bought that^

Didn't notice it before I bought it, but it connects internally to a motherboard USB header for some reason....

Anyone know why?
It has no manual just a guide that says plug all the things in.
 
It's for the Bluetooth functionality. My wireless NIC also has that header.
 
It's for the Bluetooth functionality. My wireless NIC also has that header.

Ah, since I won't be using that I can leave it unplugged I suppose.
 
So, little more digging and discovered that 8 pin ext header is for, basically non existent products. So, that's out of the question, but it does bring rise to another question...
 
"Scotty, we need moar POWAH"....

In order to provide both wireless & bluetooth functions, the card needs some extra juice, thats all...

But as you said, if not using the BT, you should be able to leave it disconnected///
 
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Can you let me know how it works and the distance + obstacles please? I'm also on the market for some wireless. Interested how well this one works. Thanks!
 
Can you let me know how it works and the distance + obstacles please? I'm also on the market for some wireless. Interested how well this one works. Thanks!

Sure, it's a gift though so it might not go in for a while.
 
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Can you let me know how it works and the distance + obstacles please? I'm also on the market for some wireless. Interested how well this one works. Thanks!
I'll just throw my experience in here.

I have an Intel Wireless-AC 7265 NIC installed in this E-key M.2 to PCIe 1x adapter.


They're great little adapter cards (I've bought two so far and haven't had any issues with either of them). They're good for repurposing wireless NICs from old laptops.

The AP in my house is about 30 feet away from my computer, with three walls between them. Reception bounces between two and three bars in Windows.
 
"Scotty, we need moar POWAH"....

In order to provide both wireless & bluetooth functions, the card needs some extra juice, thats all...

But as you said, if not using the BT, you should be able to leave it disconnected///

I don't think the USB header is there to provide extra power, as the PCI-E 1x bus is already capable of powering up to 75W devices, which is well within the requirement of a wireless combo card.

I'm more inclined to this :

 
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Exactly. "juice" comes from the PCIe slot directly, and provides it more than enough. As mPCIe/M.2 cards use 3.3V, it's better to use this exact voltage from slot, instead of adapting 5V from USB.
It's the USB connection that is needed in order to communicate with the BT portion of card.
 
i was wondering this too, but the funny thing is that both wifi and bluetooth work on one of my ax200 addon cards... i think it might be for legacy reasons if the slot does not have USB support etc
 
I don't think the USB header is there to provide extra power, as the PCI-E 1x bus is already capable of powering up to 75W devices,
I did a little digging about PCIe x1 power and came up with an alternative answer. It's not 75W. That's only for longer PCIe x16 cards.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1378385-wattage-of-1x-slot/

https://www.techspot.com/trivia/27-without-attaching-additional-power-cables-how-much-can/

1). When attached to a motherboard's PCIe x16 slot, a card such as the GeForce RTX 4080 can draw up to 75W from the +3.3V and +12V rails (3.3V x 3A + 12V x 5.5A)

2). PCIe x4 and x8 cards can draw up to 25W from the motherboard's slot

3). x1 cards are limited to 10W unless configured as a 'full-height' or 'high-power card' to pull the aforementioned 25W


I hadn't realised the 75W limit for PCIe x16 was made up of two components, namely 12V @ 5.5A (66W) plus 3.3V @ 3A (9.9W). 66 + 9.9 = 75.9W.

It would seem that PCIe x1 cards are restricted to 10W, but might be able to pull 25W. However, the PCE-AC55BT B1 is only half-height, so I suspect it's limited to 10W max.

Pins B8, A9 and A10 supply 3.3V power and pin B10 supplies 3.3V Aux power (whatever that is?). These four pins appear to be the only +3.3V supplies available on x1, x4, x8 and x16 slots and should be capable of providing 3.3A between them.

https://pinoutguide.com/Slots/pci_express_pinout.shtml

PCI-Express 1x Connector Pin-Out​

pci-e-x1.gif

PinSide B ConnectorSide A Connector
#NameDescriptionNameDescription
1+12v+12 volt powerPRSNT#1Hot plug presence detect
2+12v+12 volt power+12v+12 volt power
3+12v+12 volt power+12v+12 volt power
4GNDGroundGNDGround
5SMCLKSMBus clockJTAG2TCK
6SMDATSMBus dataJTAG3TDI
7GNDGroundJTAG4TDO
8+3.3v+3.3 volt powerJTAG5TMS
9JTAG1+TRST#+3.3v+3.3 volt power
103.3Vaux3.3v volt power+3.3v+3.3 volt power
11WAKE#Link ReactivationPERST#PCI-Express Reset signal
Mechanical Key
12RSVDReservedGNDGround
13GNDGroundREFCLK+Reference Clock
Differential pair
14HSOp(0)Transmitter Lane 0,
Differential pair
REFCLK-
15HSOn(0)GNDGround
16GNDGroundHSIp(0)Receiver Lane 0,
Differential pair
17PRSNT#2Hotplug detectHSIn(0)
18GNDGroundGNDGround


As mPCIe/M.2 cards use 3.3V, it's better to use this exact voltage from slot, instead of adapting 5V from USB.
I didn't know these modules required 3.3V only, but confirmed you were spot on. Thanks for the heads up.

The link below to a typical WiFi/Bluetooth module shows a 3.3V supply but no mention of power required.
https://advdownload.advantech.com/productfile/PIS/AIW-165/file/AIW-165_DS(032322)20220323144214.pdf

I'd expect 9.9W from the PCIe bus 3.3V rail to be more than enough to power the WiFi card, without the need for additional 5V power from an external USB port.

I'm basing this on the fact that maximum permitted WiFi RF power (indoors) is restricted to 100mW (2.4GHz) and 200mW (5GHz). Even with the addition of Bluetooth, this still won't exceed 9.9W.

It's the USB connection that is needed in order to communicate with the BT portion of card.
I suspect this is the correct answer.
 
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