Will there be a i3 or i5 32nm based without igp ?

[DaC]

Hi guys, is there any news about some new version of the i5-750 based on the 32nm process or any other intel 32nm cpu without the 45nm igp inside ?

From what I saw, the 45nm igp makes 32nm cpus be not that energy efficient as it could be...

 

[3volvedcombat]

Hi guys, is there any news about some new version of the i5-750 based on the 32nm process or any other intel 32nm cpu without the 45nm igp inside ?

From what I saw, the 45nm igp makes 32nm cpus be not that energy efficient as it could be...

I just saw a IGP 661 core do 4.35Ghz stable at 1.33volts with IGP inside. Now imagine one of those cores without a IGP. That is very very! impressing.

 

[zithe]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222

 

[DonInKansas]

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-650-660-661-review-test/

The 661 is the only one with the igp in these tests.

 

[DaC]

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-650-660-661-review-test/

The 661 is the only one with the igp in these tests.

wait a minute, I was thinking all of them had igp... LoL....
Sp no IGP on the i3-530 ?


Is there any i3-530 specific review with power consumption tests out ?
I saw one but it was a 661 clocked to 2.93ghz

 

[DaC]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-650-660-661-review-test/

The 661 is the only one with the igp in these tests.

well, according to this, even the i3-530 has igp inside

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=46472

I just saw a IGP 661 core do 4.35Ghz stable at 1.33volts with IGP inside. Now imagine one of those cores without a IGP. That is very very! impressing.

Just what I was thinking........ but more in terms of low power consumption......

 

[angelkiller]

I'm nearly certain all Clarkdale CPUs have IGPs. That's a part of the Clarkdale architecture. And since these are 'low-end' parts, I doubt we'll every see one without a IGP.

Intel moved the graphics on the CPU to consolidate things. Now, low end computers don't need a northbridge anymore, which saves on costs. Selling one of these CPUs without a IGP means that a discrete GPU is reqired, which defeats the purpose. If you're adding a discrete CPU to begin with, Intel probably think's youre gonna use a Ci5 750 or higher.

 

[zithe]

They're nice little chips, but they cost too much for what you're getting, imho. If they had no IGP they should go for 80ish. With IGP should only be 100 or so.

 

[DaC]

I'm nearly certain all Clarkdale CPUs have IGPs. That's a part of the Clarkdale architecture. And since these are 'low-end' parts, I doubt we'll every see one without a IGP.

Intel moved the graphics on the CPU to consolidate things. Now, low end computers don't need a northbridge anymore, which saves on costs. Selling one of these CPUs without a IGP means that a discrete GPU is reqired, which defeats the purpose. If you're adding a discrete CPU to begin with, Intel probably think's youre gonna use a Ci5 750 or higher.

Yeah that's what I'm afraid of..... I'll probably stick to the i5-750, but I was wondering if there will be any 32nm cpu with better consumption specs.... even a 32nm i5-750...
I'm not planing a high-end system but a mainstream to low-end.... performance/power ratio is the main goal...

Oh well...

They're nice little chips, but they cost too much for what you're getting, imho. If they had no IGP they should go for 80ish. With IGP should only be 100 or so.

Yeah, wouldn't that be just great ? a i3-530 for $80.00 ? Lower power, higher overclocking headroom ?

 

[angelkiller]

They're nice little chips, but they cost too much for what you're getting, imho. If they had no IGP they should go for 80ish. With IGP should only be 100 or so.

I think you're right on the high end. None of these new Ci5s are worth it. But the Ci3s are priced pretty nicely.

Yeah that's what I'm afraid of..... I'll probably stick to the i5-750, but I was wondering if there will be any 32nm cpu with better consumption specs.... even a 32nm i5-750...
I'm not planing a high-end system but a mainstream to low-end.... performance/power ratio is the main goal...

Oh well...

I would guess that we'll see a desktop refresh from Intel around July/August. I would think that the Ci5 750 and up would get shrunk to 32nm. But that's just a guess not based on much.

TBH, I think the Ci5 is pretty power efficient. It's not low powered, but it packs quite a punch for the energy it draws. The Ci7 used to hold this title. It drew more power, but packed that much more punch. Then Lynnfield came and did pretty much the same work as an i7 with much lower power. (more efficient) If you're looking to build a low powered system, that's one thing, but if you're looking at efficiency, I would say the Ci5 750 is your best bet imo.

 

[DaC]

I would guess that we'll see a desktop refresh from Intel around July/August. I would think that the Ci5 750 and up would get shrunk to 32nm. But that's just a guess not based on much.

TBH, I think the Ci5 is pretty power efficient. It's not low powered, but it packs quite a punch for the energy it draws. The Ci7 used to hold this title. It drew more power, but packed that much more punch. Then Lynnfield came and did pretty much the same work as an i7 with much lower power. (more efficient) If you're looking to build a low powered system, that's one thing, but if you're looking at efficiency, I would say the Ci5 750 is your best bet imo.

Yeah, that's what I'm going to do....
Zotac H55-ITX mobo / i5-750 / HD 5570-5670 / 2x2gb G.Skill ECO DDR3-1600 1.35v CL7
What do you think ? Should be enough to play crysis on mid setting 1920x1080...

I hope this setup will go below 150W doing some great undervolt on the i5...

 

[sneekypeet]

I undervolted my 750 but was only able to take it down to 1.08V at stock YMMV

 

[DaC]

I undervolted my 750 but was only able to take it down to 1.08V at stock YMMV

1.08v is pretty lol.... temps must be very low....
I have a friend that can clock his i5-750 to 3.6ghz @ 1.182v and 4.0ghz @ 1.292v and 0.898v @ stock stable.... but he won't be selling it...
How does yours do ? Usually low voltage clocking cpus can do a very low vcore on stock...

 

[sneekypeet]

with a default Vcore set to 1.2V it ran to just short of 3.8GHz before I had to tinker with voltage.

On the stock cooler, I was just into the 70's at that OC. Adding voltage is when the fire releases

 

[DonInKansas]

The ones listed at 87W are the ones with igp. The 73W ones are without.

 

[angelkiller]

The ones listed at 87W are the ones with igp. The 73W ones are without.

Intel's website says otherwise. Core i5 670. "Integrated Graphics: Yes" "TDP: 73W)

I can't explain why some are 73W and others are 87.

 

[Assassin48]

Ricks posted they are now on the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...e&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE

 

[DaC]

with a default Vcore set to 1.2V it ran to just short of 3.8GHz before I had to tinker with voltage.

On the stock cooler, I was just into the 70's at that OC. Adding voltage is when the fire releases

Do you wanna sell it ?

The Zotac M-Itx mobo arrived just in time, isn't it... ?

 

[DaC]

Ricks posted they are now on the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...e&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE

But isn't all of these have integrated IGP ?

Intel's website says otherwise. Core i5 670. "Integrated Graphics: Yes" "TDP: 73W)

I can't explain why some are 73W and others are 87.

Taker a look a this: http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?codeName=29890

The ones listed at 87W are the ones with igp. The 73W ones are without.

Well... From what I could understand from intel website, all clarkdale cpus do have igp...

 

[btarunr]

Hi guys, is there any news about some new version of the i5-750 based on the 32nm process or any other intel 32nm cpu without the 45nm igp inside ?

From what I saw, the 45nm igp makes 32nm cpus be not that energy efficient as it could be...

When you use discrete graphics, that IGP will be disabled anyway.

A monolithic dual-core designed from Lynnfield (with just two cores), is not on the cards, though such a design is very much possible and is needed.

 

[DaC]

When you use discrete graphics, that IGP will be disabled anyway.

A monolithic dual-core designed from Lynnfield (with just two cores), is not on the cards, though such a design is very much possible and is needed.

Even so I think the IGP must dissipate some energy, right ?

 

[btarunr]

Even so I think the IGP must dissipate some heat, right ?

The iGPU core will dissipate some heat. Afterall, the memory controller and PCI-E root complex is located on it.

 

[dir_d]

these chip just seem like a rip off though because they are dual cores with HT and turbo...i still think the 750 is better price/performance.

 

[DonInKansas]

I was mistaken. The higher TDP chips have higher clocked IGPs. My bad.