Win 10 memory integrity software issue.

[AlwaysHope]

This is with 21H1 win 10 Pro.

Not sure if others have experienced this or is it a bug in win 10, but tried turning this on today as it was not turned on in the "Device Security" > "Core Isolation" > "core isolation details". It's known as 'memory integrity'.
Checked it out for further info, according to Windows, if it's available on your device, they recommend turning it on. As a "simpleton" user how the heck would I know if its capable on my system or not? I mean its available to be turned on & MS recommends turning it on.
So I did, prompted to reboot, upon logging in, about 10 secs later, system completely freezes.... then windows reboots.
At first I thought something stressing the OC on my system maybe, so reverted to default settings, same story...
Lucky for system restore... saved my ass!
WARNING to others thinking of using this win 10 feature, BE CAREFUL.

 

[tabascosauz]

This is with 21H1 win 10 Pro.

Not sure if others have experienced this or is it a bug in win 10, but tried turning this on today as it was not turned on in the "Device Security" > "Core Isolation" > "core isolation details". It's known as 'memory integrity'.
Checked it out for further info, according to Windows, if it's available on your device, they recommend turning it on. As a "simpleton" user how the heck would I know if its capable on my system or not? I mean its available to be turned on & MS recommends turning it on.
So I did, prompted to reboot, upon logging in, about 10 secs later, system completely freezes.... then windows reboots.
At first I thought something stressing the OC on my system maybe, so reverted to default settings, same story...
Lucky for system restore... saved my ass!
WARNING to others thinking of using this win 10 feature, BE CAREFUL.

Back when Throttlestop was still running on the WinRing0.dll driver, I remember having some major snafus after inadvertently enabling Memory Integrity protection. Might have had to reinstall, since I don't use system restore. Must have been 2019 or 2020. TS is redesigned to be much more robust now, but I learned my lesson with the Core Isolation features, it will fuck up stuff that requires low-level access (is that the right term??).

I don't think Core Isolation is usually available unless you have a hardware TPM (usually laptops), or take the time to properly set up the fTPM/PTT in your hardware to actually stand in for a TPM.

In any case, rather pointless and unpredictable feature for most people. But then again Microshit does "recommend" a variety of things that don't make sense.

 

[Ware]

how the heck would I know if its capable on my system or not?

If your PC has hardware virtualization enabled (VT-x or AMD-V) then Windows should offer the "Memory integrity" option.
When you enable the setting, Windows will check installed drivers, and it wont let you turn the feature on unless your drivers are compatible.
If you have the option, your system is capable.
It's not enabled by default because of relatively rare issues like you are having.
I have the feature enabled on a few PC's(as old as Z77/3770) with zero problems.

I don't think Core Isolation is usually available unless you have a hardware TPM

Core isolation in Windows 10 only requires hardware virtualization, not TMP.

I've heard of people using 3rd party virtualization software like VMware and Virtualbox running into problems.

On Windows 11, the setting is planned to be enabled by default on 11th gen Intel and Zen2 or newer, if they meet the other requirements.

 

[AlwaysHope]

Back when Throttlestop was still running on the WinRing0.dll driver, I remember having some major snafus after inadvertently enabling Memory Integrity protection. Might have had to reinstall, since I don't use system restore. Must have been 2019 or 2020. TS is redesigned to be much more robust now, but I learned my lesson with the Core Isolation features, it will fuck up stuff that requires low-level access (is that the right term??).

I don't think Core Isolation is usually available unless you have a hardware TPM (usually laptops), or take the time to properly set up the fTPM/PTT in your hardware to actually stand in for a TPM.

In any case, rather pointless and unpredictable feature for most people. But then again Microshit does "recommend" a variety of things that don't make sense.

There is a TPM socked on my mobo but no chip for it installed. All the mobos I've owned over the last 12 yrs have had TPM socket on them. Thing is why would MS recommend it in the first place?
The computer security realm is moving rapidly from software protection to hardware capable as we can see in Win 11 hardware requirements. This is why I think MS are recommending any feature that can fulfill this capacity even on win 10.

If your PC has hardware virtualization enabled (VT-x or AMD-V) then Windows should offer the "Memory integrity" option.
When you enable the setting, Windows will check installed drivers, and it wont let you turn the feature on unless your drivers are compatible.
If you have the option, your system is capable.
It's not enabled by default because of relatively rare issues like you are having.
I have the feature enabled on a few PC's(as old as Z77/3770) with zero problems.



Core isolation in Windows 10 only requires hardware virtualization, not TMP.

I've heard of people using 3rd party virtualization software like VMware and Virtualbox running into problems.

On Windows 11, the setting is planned to be enabled by default on 11th gen Intel and Zen2 or newer, if they meet the other requirements.

The bios for my mobo has all those cpu settings for VM stuff on "auto" by default. So one would think the AI knows what to do. But alas that has demonstrated it's not the case.

Interestingly this feature turns up in my old AM3+ platform, tech that's over 9 yrs old! & in win 10 home 21H1