Z77 ITX and Overclocking

[MxPhenom 216]

Does anyone run a system with an ITX board and has had some decent success overclocking a 3570k or 3770k on them? Im trying to convince my friend to upgrade his computer from first gen P55 system to a small form factor Z77.

 

[DanishDevil]

I've heard to look no further than this:

ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6...

Separate PWM daughter board SEXYNESS.

 

[Athlon2K15]

I've heard to look no further than this:

ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6...

Separate PWM daughter board SEXYNESS.

Indeed that board looks the part

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Yep thats what I was looking at. Looks sweet.

 

[DanishDevil]

Ever since I saw that board, I've wanted to base a build off of it.

 

[manofthem]

You can check out [H]@RD5TUFF's ITX build using that mobo and 3770k, some OC result on page 2 (or page 4, depending on ppp)

 

[Jstn7477]

Overclocking an i-3xxx processor should be extremely easy on the cheapest of boards due to the much reduced power consumption. I have one of mine overclocked to 4.3GHz/1.175v with the stock cooler on an ASRock Z77 Pro4-M and it runs great.

 

[Jack1n]

If your looking for some thing a little better:
ASUS Maximus V Gene LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6...

 

[MxPhenom 216]

If your looking for some thing a little better:
ASUS Maximus V Gene LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6...

Looks good, but its got problems from what I here.

Overclocking is not mandatory, its just if he ever wants it or needs it its there. And no way would we try maxing it out running higher then atleast 4.5

 

[theonedub]

I've heard to look no further than this:

ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6...

Separate PWM daughter board SEXYNESS.

Did a bit of research before buying my Z77 ITX and what I read actually said the extra distance added by having the VRM on a daughter board actually hampered overclocking. I had it down between that board and the Z77E-ITX, and went with the AsRock.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Did a bit of research before buying my Z77 ITX and what I read actually said the extra distance added by having the VRM on a daughter board actually hampered overclocking. I had it down between that board and the Z77E-ITX, and went with the AsRock.

Thats interesting. What have you been able to do with the AsRock?

 

[theonedub]

i7-2600k at 4.3ghz 1.280v all day no problem.

i7-3770k just installed a couple days ago, 4.0ghz at 1.080v no problem with temps stupid low. Haven't had time to push, but everywhere I have read show that 4.6-4.7 is doable easily with this board. Im likely to stick it somewhere between 4.3 and 4.5 24/7.

 

[Nordic]

Your friend should go for it. I thought about side grading to a smaller system like that but decided I will wait till my next major upgrade.

 

[drdeathx]

Z77 boards overclock within a few hundred MHz. Overclocking on all platforms has become more chip dependent.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

He would lose his sound card though.

Z77 boards overclock within a few hundred MHz. Overclocking on all platforms has become more chip dependent.

Yeah thats what ive kind of figured.

 

[Grnfinger]

Looks good, but its got problems from what I here.

Overclocking is not mandatory, its just if he ever wants it or needs it its there. And no way would we try maxing it out running higher then atleast 4.5

My 2600K hits 5.0GHz on my GeneZ

Rock solid board imo

 

[SonDa5]

Did a bit of research before buying my Z77 ITX and what I read actually said the extra distance added by having the VRM on a daughter board actually hampered overclocking. I had it down between that board and the Z77E-ITX, and went with the AsRock.

It's not far away at all. Where did you read this info at?

 

[cadaveca]

Z77 boards overclock within a few hundred MHz. Overclocking on all platforms has become more chip dependent.

Nope, sorry. If they have voltage control, yes, but not all Z77 boards offer that.

It's not far away at all. Where did you read this info at?

Seems to eb a common theme from user with the board. I asked ASUS for a sample, but they denied the request. I can only assume that they didn't send it because there is a problem with it they didn't want me to expose.

 

[SonDa5]

Nope, sorry. If they have voltage control, yes, but not all Z77 boards offer that.




Seems to eb a common theme from user with the board. I asked ASUS for a sample, but they denied the request. I can only assume that they didn't send it because there is a problem with it they didn't want me to expose.

I'd like to know more about these distance problems. Looks like a nice little itx mb. I was thinking about getting one.

 

[cadaveca]

I'd like to know more about these distance problems. Looks like a nice little itx mb. I was thinking about getting one.

Seems to me perhaps there is some noise introduced because of the interface used to connect VRM to board.

Really, I cannot imagine that it'd really make that much of a difference though. I am very curious about this board myself, honestly.

 

[theonedub]

It's not far away at all. Where did you read this info at?

I don't have the sources readily available to me right now, but it was mentioned in a few reviews and forums when I was doing my research.

I did find this nice round up review from Anandtech that goes over all the top mITX offering right now including the ASUS and AsRock models. It does briefly go over concerns about the daughter board VRM setup in the ASUS board.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6516/z77-mitx-roundup-five-of-the-best-msi-zotac-asrock-evga-and-asus

Spoiler: The AsRock Z77E-ITX is given the Editor's Recommendation and the ASUS ITX is given the Bronze Award. So basically you can't go wrong either way

 

[SonDa5]

Spoiler: The AsRock Z77E-ITX is given the Editor's Recommendation and the ASUS ITX is given the Bronze Award. So basically you can't go wrong either way

The bronze award happens to be the best itx MB in that review.


From the review:

There are some questions that come up from this sort of arrangement – connectivity, power delivery, electrical losses, electrical noise, stability, and so on. Crucially the path of the power is most interesting – the 8-pin CPU power connector is on the top right of the motherboard, and this power is taken up into the daughterboard, filtered, and then passed back through into the motherboard for the processor. On the left of the daughterboard we have a series of normal pins used for control of the power delivery – issuing commands for the ‘DIGI+’ part of the system. The rest of the daughterboard is connected firmly with thicker copper pipes – mostly for rigidity but behind this is hiding the transfer of power to the board. The capacitors in front of the power delivery provide the final filtering mechanism before the CPU gets the power. The result is essentially a custom power solution, allowing ASUS to add in any height of daughterboard for any number of phases or power delivery capability.

Looks like speculation about any possible negative effects of the design.

To me the design looks great.

According to the review the Asus was the preferred out of the 5 itx mb reviewed and it performed the best.


Looks like a good choice for an itx build but I do think it is a little pricey at around $200. Will keep an eye on it though because if the price is right on it I will buy one and build my first itx rig.

I think I could build a 5GHZ 3570k rig with the Asus itx mb.