720BE or E8400?!

[Darren]

The 720BE can reach 4.2ghz at 1.27vcore with low voltages and temps? I don't think so .

Who cares, a E8400 @ 4.2 GHz is still slower overall than the Phenom II 720 BE @ 3.9 GHz

 

[F430]

my first was Celeron from 1999 (Tomb Raider 2)lol 3000+ and 4200X2 i have the 955X4 YES!!!

 

[erocker]

its a strong system? and i just need 2GB more? and all is good?

Buy 2x2gb sticks of ram.

 

[Darren]

^^ +1

its a strong system? and i just need 2GB more? and all is good?

Your system is strong but not really balanced.

It depends what you do with the computer, gaming, browsing the web, watching movies?

Personally, I'd sell the 2900 Pro and buy the cheapest ATI 4870/4890 of you are a gamer.

I'd return the 2x1GB OCZ Reaper and buy OCZ Gold or Platinum PC8500 2GBx2 (2GBx4 if you want extra future proofing), then download Windows 7 x64 and use it for free for a year

If you are not a gamer I'd ignore my graphics card advice and just do the memory change.

 

[bpgt64]

If you game, then either one will do just fine. And currently there have been queit a few posts about the unlocked core "bug" not going away, so if you're willing to tweak a bit, it might be a better option. Either way is not going to matter anywhere near as much as your GPU. My preference however is the Core 2, it's treated me very well, and runs amazing in games. And lets be honest, "Future-proof" is a load of crap, for what 10 minutes? lol. There is no such thing. Go with whats cheaper, and does what you spend most of your time on your computer doing. I could have done with a quad when I got me E8400, but the money was better spent, atleast I think so, on a HD 4870 X2.

 

[Meecrob]

smart move if he did, IMHO thats one of the best choices you can make IF you have the money, Im looking at the 550 and that 790x gigabyte board myself!!!

 

[Darren]

I think he has already bought the Phenom II X4 955?

smart move if he did, IMHO thats one of the best choices you can make IF you have the money, Im looking at the 550 and that 790x gigabyte board myself!!!

Meecrob, you'll be happy the Phenom II X2 550 are gangster, The 790 chipset is good too but you can shave off money by getting the 780 chipset or Nforce 8200/8300 chipset. If you buy those chipsets it will increase your CPU budget allowing you to afford the Phenom II X3 710 or 720 instead.

I'm waiting for the Athlon II X4, they are suppose to be priced below £100/$100


Edit:

I actualy have a plan at the moment, the 790x board has the SATA ports i need(lots of hdd's) and i plan to use the 2nd sata slot for my 8800gts 512 for pure cuda use(probbly gonna get me a gtx260 c216) badaboom ROCKS but requiers cuda, I can encode video at 150-250fps on this current system, thats to h264+aac audio at full 720p res, its crazy!!!
btw thats with 9% cpu use.

current system

biostar ta770a2+
Athlon 64 x2 6000+
6gb ddr2(2x2gb wintec ampx 800, 2x1gb dell hynix 667 all @ 1135 2.1v 5-5-5-18 127ns trfc)
8800gts 512mb

its not a bad rig, just looking at upgrading to am3 sometime fairly soon.

I was eyeing a 1gb 4870 but after trying badaboom and a couple other cuda based encoding apps and discovering nobodys got a stream based app thats even close out, well I do encode alot and cuda is so much faster then cpu based

mediacoder even has cuda accelerated h264 support(and hes working on a full cuda implementation so that decode and encode/transform/filters are run on the videocard!!)


its an exciting time to be a geek

In your situation I'd ignore the Phenom II X2 550 and go straight for the Phenom II X3/X4 or wait for the budget Athlon II X4, you'd notice a much larger boost when it comes to your encoding and whatnot.

The Phenom II X2 550 is a great gaming CPU, but for intensive tasks like encoding I feel it is at a huge disadvantage in comparison to X3s and X4s, although you'd be able to overclock it to squeeze extra performance out of it I'm sure the new Athlon II X4s will overclock just as well or better whilst benefiting from those four cores which I'm sure most encoding applications support.

 

[F430]

yes dod's i buy the 955X4 and i gamer i can play on day 3 hours and i will buy a new video card THX

 

[Meecrob]

I think he has already bought the Phenom II X4 955?




Meecrob, you'll be happy the Phenom II X2 550 are gangster, The 790 chipset is good too but you can shave off money by getting the 780 chipset or Nforce 8200/8300 chipset. If you buy those chipsets it will increase your CPU budget allowing you to afford the Phenom II X3 710 or 720 instead.

I'm waiting for the Athlon II X4, they are suppose to be priced below £100/$100

I actualy have a plan at the moment, the 790x board has the SATA ports i need(lots of hdd's) and i plan to use the 2nd sata slot for my 8800gts 512 for pure cuda use(probbly gonna get me a gtx260 c216) badaboom ROCKS but requiers cuda, I can encode video at 150-250fps on this current system, thats to h264+aac audio at full 720p res, its crazy!!!
btw thats with 9% cpu use.

current system

biostar ta770a2+
Athlon 64 x2 6000+
6gb ddr2(2x2gb wintec ampx 800, 2x1gb dell hynix 667 all @ 1135 2.1v 5-5-5-18 127ns trfc)
8800gts 512mb

its not a bad rig, just looking at upgrading to am3 sometime fairly soon.

I was eyeing a 1gb 4870 but after trying badaboom and a couple other cuda based encoding apps and discovering nobodys got a stream based app thats even close out, well I do encode alot and cuda is so much faster then cpu based

mediacoder even has cuda accelerated h264 support(and hes working on a full cuda implementation so that decode and encode/transform/filters are run on the videocard!!)


its an exciting time to be a geek

 

[subhendu]

buy 720BE...three cores are always better than e8400.....

 

[F430]

in the end i buy this i believe thit you proud of me lol


Processor: AMD 955X4
Motherboard:MA780G-UD3H
Memory:2x1GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition RC-690
Cooling: Freezer 64 Pro
2900PRO temporary Video Card
PSU: CORSAIR 520W HX SERIES
CM 690 Black

its wasted system?

 

[Meecrob]

In your situation I'd ignore the Phenom II X2 550 and go straight for the Phenom II X3/X4 or wait for the budget Athlon II X4, you'd notice a much larger boost when it comes to your encoding and whatnot.

The Phenom II X2 550 is a great gaming CPU, but for intensive tasks like encoding I feel it is at a huge disadvantage in comparison to X3s and X4s, although you'd be able to overclock it to squeeze extra performance out of it I'm sure the new Athlon II X4s will overclock just as well or better whilst benefiting from those four cores which I'm sure most encoding applications support.

just depends on what i can get for my money when they come out, In all honesty the cpu has little effect on badaboom's h264 encoding speed, but it could be handy to have more power for when i gotta make something in xvid........not sure tho......


Im gonna keep my eye out, the 720 is tempting as well, just not sure yet whats gonna be the better buy when the money comes in.

 

[F430]

720BE for now its very sweet one... in sum place people say thit my system is wasted

 

[erocker]

in the end i buy this i believe thit you proud of me lol


Processor: AMD 955X4
Motherboard:MA780G-UD3H
Memory:2x1GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition RC-690
Cooling: Freezer 64 Pro
2900PRO temporary Video Card
PSU: CORSAIR 520W HX SERIES
CM 690 Black

its wasted system?

It all looks good, except get 2x2gb of RAM.

 

[F430]

ah thanks dod now i am relaxeing :] and i now thit my system rocks!

 

[TheMailMan78]

Whatever you do. DO NOT UNLOCK THE 4th CORE on a 720. You will regret it.

 

[F430]

dod after all i buy the 955 X4!

 

[erocker]

Whatever you do. DO NOT UNLOCK THE 4th CORE on a 720. You will regret it.

Well, unless he gets a good processor. It seems as if most motherboards have a bios that can unlock any x3, however most newer x3's seem to have unstable 4th cores. People have better luck with earlier stepping x3's. *And he got a 955. Awesome choice, I run mine at 3.4ghz 1.275v (stock is 3.2ghz @ 1.35v).

 

[TheMailMan78]

Well, unless he gets a good processor. It seems as if most motherboards have a bios that can unlock any x3, however most newer x3's seem to have unstable 4th cores. People have better luck with earlier stepping x3's. *And he got a 955. Awesome choice, I run mine at 3.4ghz 1.275v (stock is 3.2ghz @ 1.35v).

I didn't catch he got a 955. Good pick man! No excellent pick!

Realistically you'll be good for a few years with that puppy.

 

[F430]

its ok thit you dropping down the volt? below the normal? my Motherboard is no soo good...

 

[erocker]

its ok thit you dropping down the volt? below the normal?

I had a couple of 720 x3's and one of them ran a stock voltage of 1.25v. The 955 runs stock at 1.35v and I found it overclocks with less voltage than my x3 720 did. That led me to think that there's no way this chip needs 1.35v for stock. It failed linpack at 1.25v, 1.265v passes 1 hour and I set it to 1.275v just to be safe. It's very much ok to run lower voltage. Less heat and less electricity being used.

 

[F430]

for sure...!? tell me if you have some problem.. :] yours 955 run on 3.2?

 

[Meecrob]

they overvolt chips to make sure they are all stable, intel and amd both do this, I remmber back in the day i was able to undervolt and overclock a p75 i had(133 at lower then 75 volts!!!)

 

[TheMailMan78]

they overvolt chips to make sure they are all stable, intel and amd both do this, I remmber back in the day i was able to undervolt and overclock a p75 i had(133 at lower then 75 volts!!!)

I don't think thats true for all of them. For instance my 720 needs 1.44 to be remotely stable with a 600Mhz OC. I think they measure them to where they should be anymore and not undervolted. But more so it all depends on the chip as no two chips are the same.

 

[1Kurgan1]

I don't think thats true for all of them. For instance my 720 needs 1.44 to be remotely stable with a 600Mhz OC. I think they measure them to where they should be anymore and not undervolted. But more so it all depends on the chip as no two chips are the same.

You have bad luck with chips I am able to run my 720 at 2.9ghz with 1.21v. And I can run it at 3.5ghz with 1.4v (haven't tried lower). I even have my gf's 7750 running at 3.4ghz 24/7 at 1.375v.