Phenom II vs Core i7

[erocker]

The enormous throughput most graphics cards put on a processor in crossfirex/SLI sometimes demands a super-clocked Core i7 to see the real potential of a multi-GPU setup.

False.

 

[Wile E]

The enormous throughput most graphics cards put on a processor in crossfirex/SLI sometimes demands a super-clocked Core i7 to see the real potential of a multi-GPU setup.

I believe this is called a bottleneck.

First off, that is simply not true, secondly, even if it was, you don't have crossfire. Hell, you don't even have a crossfire capable system.

If you want better gameplay, you need a better graphics card, plain and simple. Your 5750 is the bottleneck, not your cpu.

 

[Monkey_Business]

First off, that is simply not true, secondly, even if it was, you don't have crossfire. Hell, you don't even have a crossfire capable system.

If you want better gameplay, you need a better graphics card, plain and simple. Your 5750 is the bottleneck, not your cpu.

The HD 5750 idles @ 37 *C and 64 *C under load. My old HD 4850 which had to be thrown away because it was "fried" after almost a year, idled at 88 *C and 110 *C load.

My 5750 is certainly a lot cooler, and a lot quieter than my other, faulty graphics card.

It wasn't my choice, it was a warranty replacement.

I'm not going to be using my current computer if I'm building a new one.

 

[Wile E]

The HD 5750 idles @ 37 *C and 64 *C under load. My old HD 4850 which had to be thrown away because it was "fried" after almost a year, idled at 88 *C and 110 *C load.

My 5750 is certainly a lot cooler, and a lot quieter than my other, faulty graphics card.

It wasn't my choice, it was a warranty replacement.

I'm not going to be using my current computer if I'm building a new one.

Most important factor for gaming is still the graphics cards. As long as you have a decent quad, there won't be any bottlenecks in games, just benchmarks.

 

[Monkey_Business]

Most important factor for gaming is still the graphics cards. As long as you have a decent quad, there won't be any bottlenecks in games, just benchmarks.

Which would you recommend? A GeForce GTX 480 or a Radeon HD 5870?

 

[mdsx1950]

Hd 5870.

 

[xrealm20]

Personally your best value in graphics cards currenty is the Radeon HD5850 -- they can overclock like mad and perform on par if not better than the hd5870.

If you are looking for the lowest price gaming system and aren't going to be focusing on video editing, etc - I'd get a Phenom II x2 (i'd get the 555 as they have a VERY high chance of unlocking to a quad core - I have two on my desk that unlock and OC to 3.8 GHz) or x4 BE and the HD 5850.

 

[n-ster]

He has the cash... so I would suggest a PII x4 955 and a 5850 2x2gb DDR3 1600 cas 8 or 9, he already has the HAF 932, and if he wants great cooling, the coolit ECO A.L.C is awesome... else just get an S1283 or a Scythe Mugen 2... But the ECO looks SWEET http://www.beachaudio.com/CoolIt/Eco-R-p-344791.html

 

[Wile E]

Which would you recommend? A GeForce GTX 480 or a Radeon HD 5870?

Tough call. The 5870 uses much less power, runs cooler and is cheaper, but the GTX 480 does perform slightly better.

Unless you really need CUDA or Physx, I'd get the 5870.

 

[n-ster]

I don't find that a tough call

 

[Wile E]

I don't find that a tough call

You would if you needed/wanted CUDA.

 

[eidairaman1]

The HD 5750 idles @ 37 *C and 64 *C under load. My old HD 4850 which had to be thrown away because it was "fried" after almost a year, idled at 88 *C and 110 *C load.

My 5750 is certainly a lot cooler, and a lot quieter than my other, faulty graphics card.

It wasn't my choice, it was a warranty replacement.

I'm not going to be using my current computer if I'm building a new one.

No Wonder the 4850 Didnt Survive, Your using a case that is very restricted with airflow as it is.

 

[n-ster]

You would if you needed/wanted CUDA.

yea, so it is an easy call if you don't

and I am pretty darn sure the OP doesn't need PhysX or CUDA

 

[Wile E]

yea, so it is an easy call if you don't

and I am pretty darn sure the OP doesn't need PhysX or CUDA

How do you know he doesn't want CUDA or Physx?

It's still a tough call in my opinion. The 480 performs better, plain and simple. Some people just don't care about consumption. I don't. In fact, my card actually pulls MORE power than the 480. The only reason I don't buy one is the performance difference to my card isn't high enough for the price. I'm waiting till next gen.

The only reason I suggested a 5870 to him over the 480 is he has a hot running case, as evidenced by his 4850 temps, and I don't know what psu he intends to go with.

 

[n-ster]

He did say he was/has a HAF 932 in another thread... and from what I gathered in his other thread, he does not need CUDA or PhysX

IMO, a single 480 is a viable option if you need/want CUDA/PhysX, or if you find a deal and you have good airflow... From my point of view, the 80$ premium is not worth it for that small performance increase

 

[HammerON]

Well lets say that the OP was interested in WCG (crunching for TPU). In that case the i7 920 would be the only way to go as it is hands down ahead of any AMD cpu!

 

[Monkey_Business]

What the hell is "CUDA" anyway?

 

[n-ster]

Don't worry about it... if you are curious, a quick google search will answer your question

In that case though, 5870 is nice for you

 

[Lionheart]

I thought this thread was about PII & i7's

 

[FreedomEclipse]

well... the Phenom II X4 965BE will never be able to compete with the i7's & thats coming from a price point & general performance perspective - the i7 series is capable of hitting 4Ghz on very low voltages. where as the 965BE in some cases needs 1.5v.

as for the price point - the 965 costs roughly the same as a i5 750 (plus a few $) & thats the moot point about the PII X4 - its the top of the range AMD cpu but it gets beat down the i5's that OC like mad & offer you a lot more performance for almost the same money

 

[n-ster]

I see 4 CPU options...

PII 955 (or 965, but 955 better for bang/buck) + AM3 board
i5 750 + 1156 board
i7 860 + 1156 board
i7 920/930 + 1366 board (+usb 3.0 + sata 6gbps? like x58a-ud3r)

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I see 4 CPU options...

PII 955 (or 965, but 955 better for bang/buck) + AM3 board
i5 750 + 1156 board
i7 860 + 1156 board
i7 920/930 + 1366 board (+usb 3.0 + sata 6gbps? like x58a-ud3r)

whats your budget & what do you plan to do with the system once its built? gaming? work? media Encoding??

 

[beyond_amusia]

Grab an AMD 955, a Radeon 5870 (or 2 5770's if you want to save some cash), 6 GB DDR3 RAM, a damn good mobo and you'll be set for any game that rolls out over the next 2 years so long as you are not playing it at an obscene resolution... Hell, I was playing games on a Pentium D paired with a Radeon 2600 until last year and most ran just fine.

The longer you wait to build a computer, the harder it will be to decide on just what parts to get because when you finally settle on what you want, it's suddenly replaced with an even bigger and better part.

 

[n-ster]

whats your budget & what do you plan to do with the system once its built? gaming? work? media Encoding??

Yo do know this is for the OP right?

and the OP did make a thread for it before this one

 

[Monkey_Business]

Yo do know this is for the OP right?

and the OP did make a thread for it before this one

My budget is $2,000 not a penny over. I am using this computer almost entirely for gaming. Does the i7 really put out that much gaming performance than an AMD X4 965 BE?