The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

Velvet Wafer · Nov 12, 2010

catnipkiller said:
like would upping my fsb and lowering my muti be better then just having 3.6ghz from the muti? cuz as i sit my system is 100% stable

Not to be a smartass, but the FSB is long abandoned by AMD.... today we talk of HTT

but to answer your question, i can say: maybe. but dont expect much, you maybe be able to squeeze 25-50 more out of it, but just under certain conditions.
also, it would raise your NB clocks, which would be indeed beneficial,performancewise, but i would start with a higher NB multi there, so you dont need to clock the HTT up so much

@athlonite
how do they time for you?
how much is possible with 4-4-4-18?

Athlonite · Nov 12, 2010

they time crap lucky to get 880MHz @ 4-4-4-18 or maybe it's just something I'm not doing quite right I'm not as patient as I once was

Velvet Wafer · Nov 13, 2010

Athlonite said:
they time crap lucky to get 880MHz @ 4-4-4-18 or maybe it's just something I'm not doing quite right I'm not as patient as I once was

what revision is your kit?

mastrdrver · Nov 13, 2010

xanlord said:
In every AMD-based mobo (courtsey of ASUS in my/most cases) this section lately found in either JumperFree or CPU Tweaking section of BIOS. Finally a person to ask that question, to - how shall i say - remove this annoying weight off my shoulders : what can you suggest ? I wanted to play with all of these & still do. Any suggestions ? tRCD, tRC, tRRD, etc...... - what the f*** are these mean ? I know it's reffered to catnipkillah (jk no offence) but it annoyed me for more than just a long time.

I'm going to reference myself on this one.

Read this too. There is a video in that article that really simplifies a lot of those first 4 timings.

Realize that:
1) DDR2 speeds =! DDR3 speeds
2) Timings are relative to the Dimm speed. Increase the speed and the latency will change if the timing isn't adjusted accordingly.

I've also messed with dimm timings and speed and used PC Vantage to test for effects. It didn't really matter what I did timings and speed made no effect in the score as the score was never changed more than 10 points. Though moving the CPU-NB from 2000Mhz to 2600Mhz saw the score jump ~300 points.

Wile E · Nov 13, 2010

Mussels said:
burn the heretic!

Your AMD has to catch his Intel first.

Mussels · Nov 13, 2010

burn Wile E, THEN the heretic.

de.das.dude · Nov 13, 2010

Mussels said:
burn Wile E, THEN the heretic.

el o el....

YautjaLord · Nov 13, 2010

mastrdrver said:
I'm going to reference myself on this one.

Read this too. There is a video in that article that really simplifies a lot of those first 4 timings.

Realize that:
1) DDR2 speeds =! DDR3 speeds
2) Timings are relative to the Dimm speed. Increase the speed and the latency will change if the timing isn't adjusted accordingly.

I've also messed with dimm timings and speed and used PC Vantage to test for effects. It didn't really matter what I did timings and speed made no effect in the score as the score was never changed more than 10 points. Though moving the CPU-NB from 2000Mhz to 2600Mhz saw the score jump ~300 points.

Thanx for articles, will read 'em thoroughly later+will watch the vid. Just came back from work, ~15mins ago.

Andrea87 · Nov 19, 2010

Subscribed.

Updated my cpu today from an Athlon II x4 to a Phenom II x4 965BE, quickly overclocked it easily to a nice 4.2GHz. Having ~18°C in my room, with good ventilation and a cooler master hyper 212+ on it, I'm running under prime 95 at 52°C, maybe a little hot, but I'm at 1.52V

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1491891

Athlon2K15 · Nov 25, 2010

hey guys finally decided to play with a phenom II what voltages are the most important for overclocking these chips? i have some bios screenshots so you can see what i have available

JrRacinFan · Nov 25, 2010

Mainly want to touch CPU & CPU-NB Voltages. I suggest sticking with cpu core. Most of the Phenom II quads tend to take 1.4v for 3.8Ghz core clocks. Leave ram auto'd for now or 1333 cl9 1.6v and tweak later.

de.das.dude · Nov 25, 2010

JrRacinFan said:
Mainly want to touch CPU & CPU-NB Voltages. I suggest sticking with cpu core. Most of the Phenom II quads tend to take 1.4v for 3.8Ghz core clocks. Leave ram auto'd for now or 1333 cl9 1.6v and tweak later.

what???

my 945 dopes 3.6 stable at 1.4625V!!!!
anything less and it will BSOD!! my ram was at 320, lower than the max 400 it can achieve.

JrRacinFan · Nov 25, 2010

de.das.dude said:
what??? my 945 dopes 3.6 stable at 1.4625V!!!!
anything less and it will BSOD!! my ram was at 320, lower than the max 400 it can achieve.

My unlocked 555 Black and a 965 C2 that I was clocking on a Gigabyte 790FX took 1.4v to keep stable at 3.8. Might be coincidence.

Athlon2K15 · Nov 25, 2010

this is what i got so far should i run the NB and HT higher is there any benefit?

exodusprime1337 · Nov 25, 2010

i'd keep working on the core until you max it out man.. i figure 4.1-4.2 might be doable given how low the voltage is on that thing. when you get to dealing with the cpu-nb just up that and leave the ht link at 2k or so.. it's not really worth raising it imho

JrRacinFan · Nov 25, 2010

AthlonX2 said:
this is what i got so far should i run the NB and HT higher is there any benefit?

http://img.techpowerup.org/101125/phenom.jpg

NB Yes, that is where cpu-nb volts come into play. HT Link, no not really.

Chicken Patty · Nov 25, 2010

^^^ Correct! NB is a night and day different, HT none noticeable by me at least. Actually lower HT will help you stabilize your overclock a bit. I just leave mine at default.

Athlon2K15 · Nov 25, 2010

Ok guys i got the CPU-NB @ 3000 with 1.3v how far do these normally go?

crazyeyesreaper · Nov 25, 2010

you might have a golden chip you jackass i need 1.425v for 2800nb to be stable man i hate you right now :toast:

Chicken Patty · Nov 25, 2010

AthlonX2 said:
Ok guys i got the CPU-NB @ 3000 with 1.3v how far do these normally go?
http://img.techpowerup.org/101125/phenom1.jpg

crazyeyesreaper said:
you might have a golden chip you jackass i need 1.425v for 2800nb to be stable man i hate you right now

yep, that's pretty awesome Athlon! :rockout:

I would run it a bit longer at those settings to make sure it doesn't act up on the long run, it's pretty amazing!

Athlon2K15 · Nov 25, 2010

oh so it appears this isnt normal? Like i said i have been on X58 for awhile so all of this is new to me

erocker · Nov 25, 2010

You're probablly not completely stable at 3000 @ 1.3v. At 3000 NB you'll want to match your RAM at half the speed so go for 1500mhz or so on the RAM.

Athlon2K15 · Nov 25, 2010

ok thanks erocker!!

Velvet Wafer · Nov 25, 2010

indeed its a golden chip! one of 3 i ever knew of

erocker · Nov 25, 2010

Velvet Wafer said:
indeed its a golden chip! one of 3 i ever knew of

Nah, typical really. I can set things in Overdrive above those settings and get a screenshot as well. I can also set those setting in the Bios and boot.

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