Catalyst 14.9 WHQL released.

[EarthDog]

They only seem to care about R9, APUs, and Crossfire.

You have said that twice in as many posts... Take exception to that much?

Besides you have an R9 280x... what are you complaining about? Anything that updates the 280x will update your 7970 since they are the EXACT same card just named different.

Except that they left a LOT of performance problems on the table with the 7000 series

They did?

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I think you're looking too deep into it.

Just trying to get your take on it. You seem smarter than the install them just because they're the latest, even if there's nothing in them for your GPU type.

I could easily say the reverse, that it's shallow to go by conditioned response, as if taking part ion a Pavlovian experiment.

You have said that twice in as many posts... Take exception to that much?

Besides you have an R9 280x... what are you complaining about? Anything that updates the 280x will update your 7970 since they are the EXACT same card just named different.

They did?

I felt it necessary to reiterate, since no one seemed to be acknowledging the redundancy of installing them for a 7970, esp after some had implied my GPU is too old for support.

And I'm sorry but there's more to it than rebranding. When a GPU gets an entirely different model name and hardware ID, at the very least detection and other issues need to be addressed. If there was anything actually beneficial to the 7970 as well though, you'd think they'd mention it in the release notes vs only putting the R series models in. And btw, if you'd actually read through that entire driver release note page you'd have seen that there's nothing in it specifically for the R9 280X either, which further validates my point.

As for the problems left on the table, you need to do some Googling if you're that out of the loop. Don't you find it odd that they came out with lots of performance improvements for the 7000 series just before cramming for nothing but Crossfire and APU work, and in the process such improvements suddenly disappeared? And all this at a time right when AMD had done some major layoffs.

 

[v12dock]

AMD drivers will simply never satisfy people.

 

[fullinfusion]

AMD drivers will simply never satisfy people.

I'm happy, the last rc3 and the whql before this one were great to me.

I always welcome a new change.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

AMD drivers will simply never satisfy people.

That's not true. As I've said before after I got my 7970, for months they slammed us with tons of drivers that had fixes and performance boosts.

It was when someone brought it to their attention that their Crossfire frame pacing was woefully inadequate that they went on a Crossfire driver binge, and at the time, after the massive layoffs, they didn't have enough people to keep working on the 7000 series GPUs.

A lot of it can be blamed on AMD's haphazard marketing and wasteful R&D. If they had more business sense they wouldn't be so far behind Nvidia, and on just about everything lately.

 

[erocker]

Just trying to get your take on it. You seem smarter than the install them just because they're the latest, even if there's nothing in them for your GPU type.

I could easily say the reverse, that it's shallow to go by conditioned response, as if taking part ion a Pavlovian experiment.
I felt it necessary to reiterate, since no one seemed to be acknowledging the redundancy of installing them for a 7970, esp after some had implied my GPU is too old for support.

And I'm sorry but there's more to it than rebranding. When a GPU gets an entirely different model name and hardware ID, at the very least detection and other issues need to be addressed. If there was anything actually beneficial to the 7970 as well though, you'd think they'd mention it in the release notes vs only putting the R series models in.

As for the problems left on the table, you need to do some Googling if you're that out of the loop. Don't you find it odd that they came out with lots of performance improvements for the 7000 series just before cramming for nothing but Crossfire and APU work, and in the process such improvements suddenly disappeared? And all this at a time right when AMD had done some major layoffs.

They're just drivers. I'm not meaning to be offensive in any way, but you seem to be taking this whole computer hardware thing too negatively.

The new drivers are there, choose to use them if you wish but I really don't need a diatribe on the emotional relevancy on the matter or opinions about myself. I'm not concerned or slightly interested in it.

Much appreciated.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

^Just responding to your "too deep" analogy. I fail to see how pointing out the reverse is a "diatribe"?

Excuse me for thinking a tech forum is useful for discussing the redundancy vs relevancy of something as basic as updating GPU drivers for older model GPUs.

If you'd rather not discuss it, I'm OK with that, but I wouldn't be opposed to your commenting on and discussing that testing you were referring to, even though I'm skeptical it will yield better results.

 

[FX-GMC]

^Just responding to your "too deep" analogy. I fail to see how pointing out the reverse is a "diatribe"?

Excuse me for thinking a tech forum is useful for discussing the redundancy vs relevancy of something as basic as updating GPU drivers for older model GPUs.

If you'd rather not discuss it, I'm OK with that, but I wouldn't be opposed to your commenting on and discussing that testing you were referring to, even though I'm skeptical it will yield better results.

Agree, unless the topic has been discussed over and over and over and over.........

 

[Tallencor]

Someone give me another 7870xt so I can try the crossfire profile for autosport please.

 

[erocker]

^Just responding to your "too deep" analogy. I fail to see how pointing out the reverse is a "diatribe"?

Excuse me for thinking a tech forum is useful for discussing the redundancy vs relevancy of something as basic as updating GPU drivers for older model GPUs.

If you'd rather not discuss it, I'm OK with that, but I wouldn't be opposed to your commenting on and discussing that testing you were referring to, even though I'm skeptical it will yield better results.

Okay. So far, it's been redundant. Stay away from these drivers.

 

[v12dock]

That's not true. As I've said before after I got my 7970, for months they slammed us with tons of drivers that had fixes and performance boosts.

It was when someone brought it to their attention that their Crossfire frame pacing was woefully inadequate that they went on a Crossfire driver binge, and at the time, after the massive layoffs, they didn't have enough people to keep working on the 7000 series GPUs.

A lot of it can be blamed on AMD's haphazard marketing and wasteful R&D. If they had more business sense they wouldn't be so far behind Nvidia, and on just about everything lately.

How are they so far behind...?

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Someone give me another 7870xt so I can try the crossfire profile for autosport please.

Honestly, it's not that much faster than a 7870GHz Ed, esp on resource intense games where you need the extra power.

Why not just get something like this and call it a day? Crossfire setups are pretty forgiving on pairing the GPUs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202117&cm_re=7870-_-14-202-117-_-Product

I bought my Sapphire X1950Pro in same condition, so called factory refurbed. It looked brand new, and Sapphire puts a from manufacture date warranty on them.

How are they so far behind...?

I'm already being accused of perpetuating a rant, replete with sarcastic responses now. Need I really explain this to you? Have you not read any benches lately, seen the prices, etc?

Guys, buy what you want, update what you want. Apparently TPU is NOT the place to intelligently discuss such things.

 

[Easo]

CCC crashes for me one minute after computer startup/restart of CCC, though I can play stuff just fine.
Might be just my Win 8.1 installation, seems it is borked.

 

[EarthDog]

Just trying to get your take on it. You seem smarter than the install them just because they're the latest, even if there's nothing in them for your GPU type.

I could easily say the reverse, that it's shallow to go by conditioned response, as if taking part ion a Pavlovian experiment.
I felt it necessary to reiterate, since no one seemed to be acknowledging the redundancy of installing them for a 7970, esp after some had implied my GPU is too old for support.

And I'm sorry but there's more to it than rebranding. When a GPU gets an entirely different model name and hardware ID, at the very least detection and other issues need to be addressed. If there was anything actually beneficial to the 7970 as well though, you'd think they'd mention it in the release notes vs only putting the R series models in. And btw, if you'd actually read through that entire driver release note page you'd have seen that there's nothing in it specifically for the R9 280X either, which further validates my point.

As for the problems left on the table, you need to do some Googling if you're that out of the loop. Don't you find it odd that they came out with lots of performance improvements for the 7000 series just before cramming for nothing but Crossfire and APU work, and in the process such improvements suddenly disappeared? And all this at a time right when AMD had done some major layoffs.

You reiterated it after one post... LOL

Yes HW ID's are different you are correct. I didn't bother to read through it. I have a R9 xxx card, I know its still being fixed/improved. Sorry you are caught up in this stuff though... (not worth it).

 

[Tallencor]

Honestly, it's not that much faster than a 7870GHz Ed, esp on resource intense games where you need the extra power.

Why not just get something like this and call it a day? Crossfire setups are pretty forgiving on pairing the GPUs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202117&cm_re=7870-_-14-202-117-_-Product

I bought my Sapphire X1950Pro in same condition, so called factory refurbed. It looked brand new, and Sapphire puts a from manufacture date warranty on them.

Sorry Frag was just kiddin anyway. lol. That card is not supposed to pair with the Tahiti le's Thanks for the help thou. My 970 is on back order.

 

[AphexDreamer]

What vendor are you using?
@AphexDreamer

Edit: for the hell of it open up trixx and click on the force constant voltage, does that help by chance?

Nothing works. XFX

 

[RejZoR]

That's not true. As I've said before after I got my 7970, for months they slammed us with tons of drivers that had fixes and performance boosts.

It was when someone brought it to their attention that their Crossfire frame pacing was woefully inadequate that they went on a Crossfire driver binge, and at the time, after the massive layoffs, they didn't have enough people to keep working on the 7000 series GPUs.

A lot of it can be blamed on AMD's haphazard marketing and wasteful R&D. If they had more business sense they wouldn't be so far behind Nvidia, and on just about everything lately.

And how are they behind NVIDIA exactly? In stupid TDP? Even 290X fares perfectly well against GTX980 considering it's a last year tech...

 

[fullinfusion]

@AphexDreamer
Have you called xfx and talked to there tech guys about the problem? I had an issue with one of the 2 xfx 4series cards with one not giving close to the same numbers as the other and I ran some benches and recorded them and emailed them the tests. If memory serves me correctly they took the card back and I had a replacement within the week

To me it sounds like a power switching problem from 3d to 2d and maybe they will link you to a test bios if you ask nicely.

 

[Octopuss]

Seems to work well with BF4 under Mantle too. I jumped to test range, and was getting consistent 140-160 FPS.

 

[BiggieShady]

And how are they behind NVIDIA exactly? In stupid TDP? Even 290X fares perfectly well against GTX980 considering it's a last year tech...

With less stupid TDP you get less stupid heat and less stupid noise. It's only a hint how stupidly good the big maxwell will be.

 

[AsRock]

They working fine for me.

 

[RejZoR]

With less stupid TDP you get less stupid heat and less stupid noise. It's only a hint how stupidly good the big maxwell will be.

Don't have Maxwell and i don't have problems with either. So, what gives again?

 

[Steevo]

I installed them with my old, old, old 5870 and they work well enough. Fixed one issue and made another though, neither big ones.

 

[Fluffmeister]

With less stupid TDP you get less stupid heat and less stupid noise. It's only a hint how stupidly good the big maxwell will be.

It's a shame AMD are now producing the planet killers, let's hope they pull their socks up.

 

[eidairaman1]

Alwhore is having charges pressed against him for false statements like the one above