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Looks good! The PCP&C PSU is GREAT! By far the best I've ever used, the only potential problem is that it is longer than normal PSUs. I only read a couple posts, but I'd suggest going to zipzoomfly and grabbing the Samsung F1 750GB 32mb instead for 20 bucks more. I just bought one and can't stop recommending it to people!

Here's the Samsung 750 for $110:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007193

Here's the Samsung 500 you're looking at for 8 bucks cheaper:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10005376

Most people use newegg, and I used to until they started charging me sales tax. Now I shop I at zipzoomfly and noticed their prices are usually better than those of newegg! I'd compare prices between the two to find the best deal.
 

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Come on guys! I just scanned the thread, and if he wants to get Vista, let him! Don't bring up the whole Vista vs. XP nonsense when it isn't needed. Make your own thread if it bothers you that much.
 

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Switch to a E7200, overclocks nearly the same as E8400 but twice as cheaper!!! PSU is fine, but try a corsair 620hx ( the popular one :D)
 

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I'd get the Antec Twelve hundred instead. Apart from that, it's a good gaming computer.
 

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umm could you point me towards the unstable things in vista? like what a sA setup that doesn't have drivers for Vista? HE IS GETTING A NEW PC NOT AN 8yr OLD DELL IT WILL WORK WITH VISTA....

Umm does it look like i run a DELL lol...

Come on guys! I just scanned the thread, and if he wants to get Vista, let him! Don't bring up the whole Vista vs. XP nonsense when it isn't needed. Make your own thread if it bothers you that much.

Ooh, I'm not trying to get him not to buy Vista but see if he could borrow it of a friend to try it so he don't waste cash on some thing he is not 100% happy with or as the case my be Happy with... I speak up due to using XP x64 over 2 years and Vista has given me more issues over the past month or so than XP x64 ever has.

I did not buy mine and i would of been real pissed if i actually did.
 

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Looks good! The PCP&C PSU is GREAT! By far the best I've ever used, the only potential problem is that it is longer than normal PSUs. I only read a couple posts, but I'd suggest going to zipzoomfly and grabbing the Samsung F1 750GB 32mb instead for 20 bucks more. I just bought one and can't stop recommending it to people!

Here's the Samsung 750 for $110:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007193

Here's the Samsung 500 you're looking at for 8 bucks cheaper:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10005376

Most people use newegg, and I used to until they started charging me sales tax. Now I shop I at zipzoomfly and noticed their prices are usually better than those of newegg! I'd compare prices between the two to find the best deal.

I'll look into that, currently my parents are disagreeing on whether or not I should be allowed to get the computer in the first place, so it will leave me plenty of time for more research
 

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Switch to a E7200, overclocks nearly the same as E8400 but twice as cheaper!!! PSU is fine, but try a corsair 620hx ( the popular one :D)

are you saying that the E7200 basically starts out lower, but has a better potential for OCing? so in the end, I would lost only a little bit of performace, while saving a lot of money?
 

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are you saying that the E7200 basically starts out lower, but has a better potential for OCing? so in the end, I would lost only a little bit of performace, while saving a lot of money?

yes they normally can do 4~4.4ghz on air which is around the same as an 8500
 

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so why would people buy an 8500 instead?
 
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so why would people buy an 8500 instead?

8500s will reach those speeds easier, and can go even faster. They also have twice the L2 cache, which can give a pretty big performance boost.
 

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hm.. so for price vs performance though, 7200 would be the better choice?
 
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Price/performance, the e7200 is a better bargain. If you can afford it though I would get the e8400.
 

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why is that?
 
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why is that?

Well, b/c like I said twice the cache and it can reach higher speeds in most cases than the e7200. Therefore you'll see in benchies and such the e8400 performs better. However, I guess in your case you may just be doing gaming and the like anyway right? And then the difference will be negligible most likely in many cases. And it is $60 cheaper, so that may be the best choice for you. I was just saying that me personally, if I had the money I would get the e8400 simply b/c it offers better all-around performance, despite the fact that it is not as good of a deal, it doesn't quite outreach the price difference that would make me go for the former. e7200 is a great proc though worth every cent.
 
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I suggest you this build, its gonna be around 1230$ -130$ on MIR, so thats gonna be like 1100$+Shipping:

CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400

MOBO: DFI LanParty DK P35

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2GB PC8500 1066 MHz

GPU: MSI 8800GTS 512M OC (G92) 512MB

LCD: SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms

PSU: COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-650-ACAA-A1 650W

HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s

Case: Antec 900

CD/DVD RW: Pioneer Black 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner

I think its a good build, and its great for your budget, maybe you can change the PSU or HDD.

Good Luck :toast:
 
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neggi on that hard rive and psu ...
 

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samsung is faster, has more cache also.

The pc power and cooling is a rock solid psu.

the psu can go eitehr way but im recommending either a samsung f1 hard drive or a barracuda 7200.11
 
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samsung is faster, has more cache also.

The pc power and cooling is a rock solid psu.

the psu can go eitehr way but im recommending either a samsung f1 hard drive or a barracuda 7200.11

Actually the hdds are about the same. The SE16 is no slouch, cache makes little difference at that hdd size (that is to say between 16mb and 32mb). Go w/ whatever is cheaper 500gb at the time of purchase, f1, se16, or 7200.11. I would actually spend a tad more for the 640gb se16, which is faster than all of those, but its more money so.......
 

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Does anyone have any recommendations for a cheap but good keyboard? i just realized that all the keyboards in my house could go for about 50 cents on ebay at the most.

also, I'll continue thinking about the HDrive, but just about everything else i have is set to go.
 

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I suggest you this build, its gonna be around 1230$ -130$ on MIR, so thats gonna be like 1100$+Shipping:

CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400

MOBO: DFI LanParty DK P35

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2GB PC8500 1066 MHz

GPU: MSI 8800GTS 512M OC (G92) 512MB

LCD: SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms

PSU: COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-650-ACAA-A1 650W

HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s

Case: Antec 900

CD/DVD RW: Pioneer Black 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner

I think its a good build, and its great for your budget, maybe you can change the PSU or HDD.

Good Luck :toast:

like it apart from PSU and HDD. I prefer the 12 hundred too if you can afford it
 
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Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3200mhz.
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3
Storage 500gb ssd, 2tb ssd, 6tb HD.
Display(s) MSI 27" Curved 1440p@165hz
Case HAF 932
Power Supply Corsair HX850W
Software Windows 10 64bit
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Hereford, England
Processor Intel Core i5 750
Motherboard Maximus III Formula P55
Cooling Ultima 90i
Memory 4GB Kingston HyperX
Video Card(s) PNY GTX465 @ GTX470 w/ 1280MB vRAM
Storage OCZ Vertex 2E 60GB + 2x1TB Samsung F1
Display(s) Samsung 245B
Case Black Cosmos S
Audio Device(s) Creative Audigy 2ZS
Power Supply Antec NeoHE 550W
Software 7 Ultimate 64bit, OSX
I suggest you this build, its gonna be around 1230$ -130$ on MIR, so thats gonna be like 1100$+Shipping:

CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400

MOBO: DFI LanParty DK P35

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2GB PC8500 1066 MHz

GPU: MSI 8800GTS 512M OC (G92) 512MB

LCD: SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms

PSU: COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-650-ACAA-A1 650W

HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s

Case: Antec 900

CD/DVD RW: Pioneer Black 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner

I think its a good build, and its great for your budget, maybe you can change the PSU or HDD.

Good Luck :toast:


Like others have said I would change the PSU and case, the 900 is pretty cramped and has poor cable management... Also definitely get 4GB ram (2x2gb) instead of 2gb, I know the ballistix are very fast but 4gb is become more and more useful in games etc... Also my friend has a Pioneer dvdrw and its stupidly loud when spinning up, in my experience asus make the quietest drives atm...
 
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System Name Barb's Domain
Processor i9 10850k 5.1GHz all cores
Motherboard MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI
Cooling Deep Cool Assassin III
Memory 2*16gig Corsair LPX DDR4 3200
Video Card(s) RTX 4080 FE
Storage 500gb Samsung 980 Pro M2 SSD, 500GB WD Blue SATA SSD, 2TB Seagate Hybrid SSHD
Display(s) Dell - S3222DGM 32" 2k Curved/ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K (ran at 2k), Sanyo 75" 4k TV
Case SilverStone Fortress FT04
Audio Device(s) Bose Companion II speakers, Corsair - HS70 PRO headphones
Power Supply Corsair RM850x (2021)
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech Orion Spectrum G910
VR HMD Oculus Quest 2
Software Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Benchmark Scores https://www.3dmark.com/spy/34962882
I'm running a cooler master real power pro PSU(750 watt model). The thing has been working great for me the past couple months with EVERYTHING OC'ed(check system spec). The PC&C PSU might be better, but if the CM is less expensive, it should do what you want it to do no problem.

BTW, Minus the GX2, you can get a system identical to mine for $855 off of newegg. Add a ATI 3870 for about $150 and you'll be good to go for around the $1000 mark, or add a $250 gen92 8800gts 512 card and be around $1100 or add 2 gen92 8800gts's and have the same performance I have(the GX2 is 2 8800gts GPU on one card) for about $1350. With max OC's on everything, I've score 19870 on 3dmark06, at my 24/7 setting, I score in the low 18,000. Excellent set-up, very fast, and handles crysis very high settings at a res of 1920*1600.
 
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