LOL I love the guys here that mention the Papyrus versions of the game,See what happened in 2003 is EA took the rights for the NASCAR Arcade Racing Titles, Papyrus folded in late 2004 ,Nothing but bad love and crap shoot arcade's since,You have to pay MR.Kramer the Papyrus founder and John Henry (yes the dude that owns the Boston Red-Sox )Good money just to drive a decent Race Sim called IRacing ,You will find most of the real drivers there ,Dale Earnhardt Jr is the one most will remember having his DMP Racing League.I would know I used to race in the league until 2005 ..So i heard a lot of the behind closed doors deals that was between Nascar and EA-Dmp league .Now that Nascar made the DMP a online race league back in 2010 (was renamed Nascar Online Racing) using the Nascar 2003 and I-Racing sims and seeing a lot of the names i used to race with/ against there folded too :they want too much money and the %20 drop in viewers is because pure true fans don't like Jimmie Johnson 6 in row titles go figure ,I know if he win`s 7 then more fans will leave ,It is starting to become so predictable the last 8 years why bother even watching it.Or even make a good sim game about it ,Just a milking cow machine .