why not step up to skt 2011 then?
heres a compare between certain models
http://ark.intel.com/compare/52214,65647,52210,61275,65520,65523
Not sure what you mean.
why not step up to skt 2011 then?
heres a compare between certain models
http://ark.intel.com/compare/52214,65647,52210,61275,65520,65523
System Name | Halloween Boo! |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 3770K |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z77-Up7 |
Cooling | Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240 |
Memory | 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz |
Video Card(s) | 3 x Radeon 7970 |
Storage | OCZ Revo Drive 240G |
Display(s) | 24 inch Viewsonic |
Case | Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench |
Power Supply | Nexus 1100 watt |
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Not sure what you mean.
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
I'm playing all kinds of games, both new and old. And by all kinds I mean all kinds, I mean 10s, 100s of different games. So I can't be more specific here.
Not sure what you mean.
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Well in older games even the single threaded ones the FX series of chips is substantially better than the 2.2ghz AMD Athlon 64 they were designed for. In modern games things are moving to multithreading so the FX would be a better choice. So what games are you looking at that the i5 is so much better?
He means if all you are going to be doing is gaming and complaining the AMD is not powerful enough than LGA1155 isn't going to have what you apparently need so you may as well get an LGA2011 setup.
ok the platform you were looking at initially was the Skt 1155 platform so Why not consider the Skt 2011 platform.
I provided all of the top Model Core i7/ Core i5 Extreme Models for the 1155 Platform (highest clock speed- all lack VT-D) and the Core i7s have Hyperthreading and 2 MB higher on L3 Cache (hence the thread counts)
Most users who had bought the core i5 2500K then didnt notice any performance different between that and the core i7 2600K.
Most Common Overclock between all of them is 4.3-4.5 GHz
Well in older games even the single threaded ones the FX series of chips is substantially better than the 2.2ghz AMD Athlon 64 they were designed for. In modern games things are moving to multithreading so the FX would be a better choice. So what games are you looking at that the i5 is so much better?
He means if all you are going to be doing is gaming and complaining the AMD is not powerful enough than LGA1155 isn't going to have what you apparently need so you may as well get an LGA2011 setup.
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
The 2011 slot has only 3 CPUs, and they are all ~30% costlier. That would be closer to 3770K, not 3570K or 3470.
Skyrim, BF3, WoW, Starcraft, and some others I can't recall.
I was comparing AMD to Intel...
I mean atleast you know what youre getting into performance wise with a 2011 platform and there really isnt any worry of overclocking or not, plus has enough bandwidth to run 2-4 AMD or Nvidia Video cards and supports 64+ GB ram. Ask Wile E on it
Skyrim is the only one that has any issues whatsoever in AMD and it isn't by much...
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Except it's costlier, and that I can't afford.
I also am not planning to run more than 2 cards (MIGHT add a second one in a year or two), which is supported by all the LGA1155 CPUs. And I definitely am not going to need more than 16GB of memory for the next 3 or 4 years.
Besides, getting an exact benchmark isn't a good reason to buy a CPU. I don't think nobody will be able to provide me with some kind of information on the question about ~4.5 OC vs. no OC.
Issues, I didn't notice that. I just saw lower FPS by 5-20+ on those games.
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
Except it's costlier, and that I can't afford.
I also am not planning to run more than 2 cards (MIGHT add a second one in a year or two), which is supported by all the LGA1155 CPUs. And I definitely am not going to need more than 16GB of memory for the next 3 or 4 years.
Besides, getting an exact benchmark isn't a good reason to buy a CPU. I don't think nobody will be able to provide me with some kind of information on the question about ~4.5 OC vs. no OC.
Issues, I didn't notice that. I just saw lower FPS by 5-20+ on those games.
ok clock for clock the CPUs perform the same whether at 3 GHz or 4.5 GHz I gave you 6 CPU choices for Skt 1155 so pick one.
Make sure you get the correct LGA1155 board otherwise you will be trying to run dual cards with 16x on one slot and 4x on the other which doesn't work worth a damn. As for overclock vs no overclock you are not looking at a night and day difference maybe 5-15% in most games that are CPU limited.
By issues I meant lower framerates. BF3 shows the FX 8150 outperforming the 3570K.
For skyrim you do understand you are already sitting over 200FPS it could be 100FPS slower and you would never visibly see it within the game same goes for WOW and starcraft.
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
Thanks for the advice. I'm yet to pick a motherboard depending on if I'm going to OC or not.
5-15% isn't much, I'm not sure if it's worth $40... It could increase the performance by ~5FPS at ~50-60 frames then, which, I think, isn't worth the extra $40 then.
The point is, some games are CPU dependent more or less, and they use different technologies. If it's much slower at high frame rate, it still means that it'd be slower in other, whether already released or will be released, games as well.
You do understand the monitors you have been looking at in your other thread have a 60Hz refresh rate which means over 60FPS isn't seen on your monitor. The cheaper and easily overclockable 8320 can handle that in ALL of the games you have listed. Also the nice thing about AMD is the 970 series boards support all of the same options as the high end Z77 boards out there.
System Name | WhiteWalker2020 / LAN Box |
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Processor | Intel i7 6900K 4.4GHz / 2500K i5@4.5GHz |
Motherboard | MSI X99A Krait / Gigabyte Z68-UD3P |
Cooling | Full custom liquid / XIGMATEK HDT-Aegir |
Memory | G.Skill 32GB DDR4 3000MHz/ 4x4GB G. Skill DDR1866 Sniper |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX1080Ti SC ACX 2.0, EVGA GTX 1070 SC ACX 2.0 |
Storage | 950 Pro 512GB M.2, 960GB SanDisk Ultra II, Intel 730 480GB and 240GB, 850 EVO 250GB, 17TB Mechanical |
Display(s) | 39" AMH 399A (no glass) UHD , Wasabi Mango 42" UHD IPS, Samsung 55" 4K |
Case | Thermaltake Core x9 / HAF 932 Red |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek HD-Audio On-Board |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 850W / Corsair 650TX |
Mouse | 2x Logitech 610 |
Keyboard | Razer DeathStalker / Logitech G910 Orion Spark RGB Mechanical |
Software | Windows 10 Pro / Windows 10 64bit Professional |
overclocking any cpu shortens the lifespan and causes instability
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
As I said, I'm looking at the future too. New games, new engines will be created. So the over 60FPS will become below 60FPS, and then I'll need to do something to increase it.
System Name | Intel® X99 Wellsburg |
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Processor | Intel® Core™ i7-5820K - 4.5GHz |
Motherboard | ASUS Rampage V E10 (1801) |
Cooling | EK RGB Monoblock + EK XRES D5 Revo Glass PWM |
Memory | CMD16GX4M4A2666C15 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS GTX1080Ti Poseidon |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 1TB /850 EVO 1TB / WD Black 2TB |
Display(s) | Samsung P2450H |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 WXC |
Audio Device(s) | CREATIVE Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | EVGA 1200 P2 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G900 / SS QCK |
Keyboard | Deck 87 Francium Pro |
Software | Windows 10 Pro x64 |
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Vishera is bad option because most of time you need single tread performance.
System Name | Intel® X99 Wellsburg |
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Processor | Intel® Core™ i7-5820K - 4.5GHz |
Motherboard | ASUS Rampage V E10 (1801) |
Cooling | EK RGB Monoblock + EK XRES D5 Revo Glass PWM |
Memory | CMD16GX4M4A2666C15 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS GTX1080Ti Poseidon |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 1TB /850 EVO 1TB / WD Black 2TB |
Display(s) | Samsung P2450H |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 WXC |
Audio Device(s) | CREATIVE Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | EVGA 1200 P2 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G900 / SS QCK |
Keyboard | Deck 87 Francium Pro |
Software | Windows 10 Pro x64 |
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Yes Vishera is bad option. I have board for Vishera and I will sell that.
Because what they offer it's not interesting for me. I need strong CPU in both
single-multi tread and yes double performance in single tread for me worth 100$ more.
Special if 3770k is faster and in multi if OC both. Faster on single almost double better, faster on multi little, faster both OC in single and multi core app, faster SSD, faster RAM, faster USB 3.0 everything for little and single tread is important until completely new softwares and OS and...
3570K is real gaming killer CPU.
System Name | Apollo |
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Processor | Intel Core i9 9880H |
Motherboard | Some proprietary Apple thing. |
Memory | 64GB DDR4-2667 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2 |
Storage | 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External |
Display(s) | Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays |
Case | MacBook Pro (16", 2019) |
Audio Device(s) | AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers |
Power Supply | 96w Power Adapter |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G915, GL Clicky |
Software | MacOS 12.1 |
System Name | Intel® X99 Wellsburg |
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Processor | Intel® Core™ i7-5820K - 4.5GHz |
Motherboard | ASUS Rampage V E10 (1801) |
Cooling | EK RGB Monoblock + EK XRES D5 Revo Glass PWM |
Memory | CMD16GX4M4A2666C15 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS GTX1080Ti Poseidon |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 1TB /850 EVO 1TB / WD Black 2TB |
Display(s) | Samsung P2450H |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 WXC |
Audio Device(s) | CREATIVE Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | EVGA 1200 P2 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G900 / SS QCK |
Keyboard | Deck 87 Francium Pro |
Software | Windows 10 Pro x64 |
Yes and as we can see from the heavily multithreaded games such as BF3 you should look into a CPU that performs well with multithreading like the AMD FX series which perform better in multithreading. The other 3 games you listed have a high single IPC need. That is something that is of the past. We are already seeing more and more applications being threaded to utilize all 8 threads of a BD/PD chip and they perform better than even the 3770K.
People don't buy non K models! That is for people who don't need OC at all.
I know people who hold first generation and today on clock over 1GHz. That is 30% improvements. Why not 30% more for 20$.
That is OK offer. You never know when that 20$ can save your money and hold until something new show up for 2-3 years.
You can't improvement graphic never so much.
Vishera is bad option because most of time you need single tread performance.
For same price 3570k is double better in that and almost same in multi tread.
BF3 and two more games is not gaming world.
But 2011 is platform for people who work with multi tread applications every day, stock clock, 15h daily 100% load, IMC is weaker, you pay much more and games can't use 6 cores.
That is good long term option because 2011 is 2 years top platform and IB-E can fit in 2011 and than you have more two years top platform. But only 6 cores, 2011 and 4 core for me is nothing.
Better OC 2700k or 3770k better and you are faster in games, better IMC, natural Intel SATA III Ports, natural USB 3.0 not some third party like on AMD, you don't need to tweak PCI-E 3.0...For one graphic card 90% PC for gaming you lose much with 3930k except if you want 4-5 year upgrade. Than 3930k is excellent together with expensive motherboard.
Skt2011 is stupid for strictly gamers unless your planning on running > 3-way CFX or SLI, not to mention the platform costs more giving the user everything they don't need for gaming. If all I did was gaming on my rig, I wouldn't have gotten a i7 3820. This is a bad recommendation, sorry.
In all honesty, if you're gaming, grab the i5 3570k. It will be perfectly adequate, it will use less power, and it will cost less (in terms of power usage and cost.) SB-E and future IVB-E won't be light and day when it comes to games so don't waste your money.
Also don't go mentioning VT-d for someone who will never use virtualization, you'll only confuse people with facts that won't benefit them.
As far as the IMC on SB-E, I have memory running at 2333Mhz @ 10-11-10-30 atm and it is perfectly stable.
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
well its Settled Go for a Core i5 K model then
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |