4 gigs with windows 7?

[Mussels]

well u didnt fully answer my question

will the psu i have now work fine or do i rly need a new one, i dont rly want to spend the money cause i was planing on gettin new headphones and a new hard drive, but if i need a new psu i guess i have to get it?

so is mine ok?

you have a low end PSU, but we dont know what power your system uses since you havent given us its specificaitons.

 

[fish00]

well what i have right now is different from what im about to get, and i posted what im getting earlier in this thread but ill post it again i guess

WHAT IM GETTING:
mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128392
cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103649
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231189
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148261
havnt decided what ones to get, maybe u guys could help on that subject as well

WHAT I ALREADY HAVE THAT IM NOT UPGRADING:
VGA: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130469&Tpk=evga gts250 1 gb
1 120mm fan and 3 80mm fans
i have a plain cd/dvd burner
i have one 250gb sata hard drive

almost forgot i have a creative x-fi extreme gamer sound card

 

[Mussels]

thats borderline.

i suggest the new PSU, yes.

 

[fish00]

lol i might seem cheap but is there any good ones that are cheaper then the one u guys linked me to a few minutes ago?

 

[Mussels]

lol i might seem cheap but is there any good ones that are cheaper then the one u guys linked me to a few minutes ago?

probably. Look for corair, seasonic, PCP&C yourself on newegg. anything with either 2x18A rails or above, or a single 30A rail and above.

 

[mastrdrver]

What bothered me with the psu he listed is that it doesn't list what the combined amp/wattage is for the two 12v rails but tells you what the combined is for the 3.3v and 5v! Your just asking for problems from that unit and the video card you listed.

The psu I listed is the $10 more after rebate then the one you listed. Its got two 18a 10v rails that account for almost all of the rated capacity of the unit.

 

[Mussels]

What bothered me with the psu he listed is that it doesn't list what the combined amp/wattage is for the two 12v rails but tells you what the combined is for the 3.3v and 5v! Your just asking for problems from that unit and the video card you listed.

The psu I listed is the $10 more after rebate then the one you listed. Its got two 18a 10v rails that account for almost all of the rated capacity of the unit.

PCP&C is OCZ's high end line, the one you listed was OCZ's budget line.

I'd never pay $10 more for a lower end unit.

 

[fish00]

the ocz u posted is only 60 bucks, how is that more then the PCP&C

hmm is this the right link?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

is that the one u posted?

this one would be great, it is modular, has a 8pin cpu, i think the other one did too but still, and its cheaper, as long as it will work ii think ill get the ocz

 

[Mussels]

prior to the rebate, they're the same price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

the OCZ model will work, and it is cheaper. if you can afford the PCP&C however, go for it instead.

 

[fish00]

the ocz says 59.99 then 39.99 after rebate, what r u lookin at?

 

[Mussels]

the ocz says 59.99 then 39.99 after rebate, what r u lookin at?

i misread it.

Original Price: $89.99
You Save: $30.00
$59.99
($39.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card pdf )

i thoguht the "you save" was the rebate

 

[fish00]

ooo i see haha, i hope the ocz still has the same price when i go to buy it, i might buy the psu before i get the other stuff just to make sure price dont go up, i wont have the money to get the motherboard, cpu, ram for like 4 days to a week, but i have enough to buy that psu right now

 

[mastrdrver]

It maybe budget, but from the numbers, it can't be bad as some of the others I looked at in the same price range of the initial psu he post. Though, if you do have the extra coin, definitely go for the PC&C unit. It will be of much, much better quality than the OCZ. BTW, I ran my 4870x2 on a 650 Antec unit that had three 18a 12v rails. That OCZ unit is more than enough if you can't spring for the PC&C unit.

Oh, and about the 4gb or 8gb of memory...I'm running a laptop with W7 on 1gb of memory. This with Norton Anti-virus, Everest with sidebar, and 3 other sidebar apps loading at startup. Its a little slow, but I know for a fact that Vista would choke. W7's memory management is tons better.

 

[fish00]

well im kinda tight on money right now, and as long as the ocz will do the job i dont wanna pay the extra money, and the ocz is modular which is rly nice cause my case is kinda bad with cable management so the less cables the better.

 

[mastrdrver]

lol, I know about that. When I went to the Antec, which was also modular, inside my Cooler Master C5 case that had no room to begin with it really made a difference.

 

[t77snapshot]

Unlike Vista, Win 7 is not a ram hogger I had 7 RC1 running fine on my old computer with only 1 gb (X4 256's) of ram.

 

[fish00]

yeah lol this is the case i have now, i know its junk.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144103

there isnt much room to manage cables in the case

this is the best i could do, but i have a diff gfx card now

http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1268.html

i posted that a while back lol

 

[mastrdrver]

lol, that's like a full parking garage compared to the train wreck in the rail yard I had in my case. I wish I had pics. I built it back in mid 07 and was the first system since my K8 that I had done. Needless to say, I didn't realize how much warmer things ran then. Since I never had heat problems with my K8 and never once entertained the thought of cable management, I didn't even think about it when I initially put the system together. It was probably the cause of my 1950 Pro running a little hot and causing the vpu reset to kick in under XP.

 

[fish00]

haha yeah i wanna get the cooler master storm scout case, its prty good with cable management. but like i said im tight on money so dono when that will be

 

[Wile E]

A bit specious claim there when there is no bottleneck with current 32-bit OS and multi-tasking. Specially when we are just talking about typical home type of use here. For example, if one uses:
-IE/FF
-Open Office/MS OFFice
-Outlook/ Other email application
-Windows Explorer
which are typical applications here, there is no degradation using 32bit OS over a 64bit OS. They will both allow you to multi-task with those applications opened when 4GB of ram are used in this example. As for the "large memory support" it goes back to what was said earlier about 8GB of ram. People aren't just going to get a 64-bit OS so they can use 8GB of ram so they can claim massive mult-tasking benefits. The same can be said about mixing "jet fuel" in your car to claim higher octane benefits. Just because you can doesn't mean it should be done when there is no practical need for it.

But putting jet fuel in your car costs extra money and has negative side effects. Choosing x64 Windows ovewr x86 windows doesn't. Again, it's getting more for your money to choose x64 windows. It provides everything tat 32bit does, plus extra, all with no negative side effects. You have given little reason not to choose 64bit, other than a stubborn refusal to change, which is exactly why there aren't more x64 apps to begin with.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I'm using 4gb on 32bit win7.The reason i am on 32bit is the forced driver signing on 64bit.A driver for my 4x20 usb lcd will just not work on 64bit.

 

[Wile E]

I'm using 4gb on 32bit win7.The reason i am on 32bit is the forced driver signing on 64bit.A driver for my 4x20 usb lcd will just not work on 64bit.

Now that's a rare occurrence. Is it an older model? What model is it?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

It uses a little board to convert from parallel to usb,the driver is not signed so it will not install.Maybe i should just bin it and use 64bit.

Heres the one it is-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-HD44780-LCD-Computer-Case-Drive-Bay-PC-Modding-FBA1_W0QQitemZ220476395576QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090906?IMSfp=TL090906164001r10134

I can upload the driver,if anyone can find a way to get it to install on 64bit i will be grateful.

These lcds cost so much in the uk,50-100 quid ish,so i got this one.

 

[Wile E]

It uses a little board to convert from parallel to usb,the driver is not signed so it will not install.Maybe i should just bin it and use 64bit.

Heres the one it is-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-HD44780-LCD-Computer-Case-Drive-Bay-PC-Modding-FBA1_W0QQitemZ220476395576QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090906?IMSfp=TL090906164001r10134

I can upload the driver,if anyone can find a way to get it to install on 64bit i will be grateful.

These lcds cost so much in the uk,50-100 quid ish,so i got this one.

Well, it works with either LCDSmartie or LCDProc. Neither of which have been updated in a while tho. Did you try the latest versions of both?

 

[EastCoasthandle]

But putting jet fuel in your car costs extra money and has negative side effects. Choosing x64 Windows ovewr x86 windows doesn't. Again, it's getting more for your money to choose x64 windows. It provides everything tat 32bit does, plus extra, all with no negative side effects. You have given little reason not to choose 64bit, other than a stubborn refusal to change, which is exactly why there aren't more x64 apps to begin with.

Actually it doesn't for those in the know but that's getting OT. The point being having a 64-bit OS is useless if the user doesn't use it. It doesn't benefit the user in this regard. And, saying that it can do what a 32bit OS only diminishes it's value because it reinforces the fact that there is very little games/applications that use 64bit.

My reason is simple:
-no mass adaption of 64 bit applications and games
-no tangible benefit from having more ram in the games/applications I use
-no need/desire to have 2 copies of the same OS version

Therefore, it's actually you who has given very little reason to use 64bit OS. By your own admission you are doing no more then what you would normally do with a 32bit OS (IE: "It provides everything that a 32bit does..."). Therefore, it makes no since to use it. It's not about having a refusal to change but having a progragative to make a decision. Which is not influenced by peer pressure.