Amd/ATI Vs Nvidia

[tkpenalty]

oh and i wana point out that under farcry 1.4 patch ati users can add hdr to AA or AA to HDR without loosing any extra perf, combinding them is FREE!!!!!
kicks arse

ATI = Heaps of freebies

 

[Jeffredo]

I don't give a crap about brand in video cards. My short list has gone from Voodoo3, Voodoo5, ATI 9600 Pro, Nvidia 5900, ATI X800 XL, Nvidia 7800 GS, ATI X850 Pro to a box waiting for the PC to be assembled this weekend containing an Nvidia 8800 GTX. I like both companies and their products and I want both to stay healthy, innovative and competative.

As far as CPUs go that's a different story. Intel is so massive compared to AMD and with such deep pockets I fear that there is a very real chance of them facing little or no competition in the future. We don't need a "Microsoft" situation in processor choice and innovation, so I support AMD.

 

[tkpenalty]

I don't give a crap about brand in video cards. My short list has gone from Voodoo3, Voodoo5, ATI 9600 Pro, Nvidia 5900, ATI X800 XL, Nvidia 7800 GS, ATI X850 Pro to a box waiting for the PC to be assembled this weekend containing an Nvidia 8800 GTX. I like both companies and their products and I want both to stay healthy, innovative and competative.

As far as CPUs go that's a different story. Intel is so massive compared to AMD and with such deep pockets I fear that there is a very real chance of them facing little or no competition in the future. We don't need a "Microsoft" situation in processor choice and innovation, so I support AMD.

We aren't talking about CPUs

 

[Grings]

Intel is so massive compared to AMD and with such deep pockets I fear that there is a very real chance of them facing little or no competition in the future

How come they were getting whupped for so long then, ati were a lot smaller in comparison prior to the original athlon

 

[tkpenalty]

Moderators, it would be nice add the option for Intel GMA.

Intel Graphics aren't that bad but I say they could do better, Not to mention there is not specification for how big the heatsink could be.

 

[AshenSugar]

We aren't talking about CPUs

shut up.....ati=amd, amd=ati, gawd how dence are you?

the fact is that if intel squished amd(not gonna happen) you would be stuck with onboard intel gfx or nvidia, so stop hating amd they make your gpu after all!!!!

 

[Jeffredo]

We aren't talking about CPUs

Don't get snippy because my post is an affront to you sig. I contributed to the topic and the poll. If I want to add a little off-topic at the end (and it's barely off-topic), that's my business.

 

[tkpenalty]

Don't get snippy because my post is an affront to you sig. I contributed to the topic and the poll. If I want to add a little off-topic at the end (and it's barely off-topic), that's my business.

Wow.... the flaming started... thats not good... NOO I DONT WANT THIS THREAD TO BE LOCKED!!!

 

[AshenSugar]

my point was that really what you said Jeffredo wasnt off topic, amd bought ati, he should change his sig to "amd+intel 4Eva"

 

[Darknova]

so unless all you play is halflife2 lost coast/cs:s hdr your not getting hdr+aa at all you get one or the other PERIOD!!!!

Then how come I play Oblivion with HDR and 4x AA and 8x AF?

 

[Wile E]

Then how come I play Oblivion with HDR and 4x AA and 8x AF?

It's impossible on an nVidia, period. You may have both turned on in Oblivion, but the nVidia card is only doing one or the other, not both. It's not a question of software or drivers, either. It is a hardware limitation.

If you have an X1k series ATI card, it can do both.

 

[Darknova]

It's impossible on an nVidia, period. You may have both turned on in Oblivion, but the nVidia card is only doing one or the other, not both. It's not a question of software or drivers, either. It is a hardware limitation.

If you have an X1k series ATI card, it can do both.

I just checked, it's actually Bloom, sorry for the confusion.

What does Ashen mean by fp16 games anyway?

 

[tkpenalty]

I just checked, it's actually Bloom, sorry for the confusion.

What does Ashen mean by fp16 games anyway?

HDR, 16bit integer floating point calculations or something

 

[AshenSugar]

bloom is like a lesser version of HDR really, its worse then shader based hdr that ati dx9 cards such as the 9500/9550 up to x850xt pe support, but it run on cards that wont support or beable to coap with HDR or even shader based HDR.

cards like the 6x00 nvidia cards get severly hurt by HDR, but bloom is normaly very playable with them, and because its shader based not fp16 based you can add AA to it.

as stated above nividia cards (6/7 seirse) just CANT do hdr+aa they auto dissable AA when both are slected, this is why you see some nvidia fans INSIST you can do HDR+AA with their cards when its acctualy QUITE impossable

 

[Tatty_Two]

Even on my 1800XT I dont have HDR enabled on some games....find it too bright and distracting in outdoor scene's so its not that I am gonna miss it on the NVidia card

 

[Casheti]

X850XT is still one of the most powerful cards!!! Although its a generation old!

 

[Grings]

X850XT is still one of the most powerful cards!!! Although its a generation old

 

[Casheti]

The dude is right. It owns.

I can bench this thing to a stock X1800XL performance.

What a beast. Just wait until I get it voltmodded. Smashes an X1800XL then.

 

[Grings]

x1800xl's overclock too, you dont have to voltmod xl's though (unless youre going ott)

im not knocking the thing, its just i dont consider my card to be anywhere near one of most powerful, and i upgraded to this FROM an x850 (oblivion scared me into going for pixel shader 3)

was it worth the upgrade though...er, no not really IMHO

 

[Casheti]

It's a shame this thing is so old. It would own on SM3.0. I'm keeping this thing forever!! I have a 512MB X1300 for SM3.0 if I ever NEED it.

 

[Zubasa]

It's a shame this thing is so old. It would own on SM3.0. I'm keeping this thing forever!! I have a 512MB X1300 for SM3.0 if I ever NEED it.

LoL, that extra 256MB on anything lower than X1800XT will hardly do anything.

 

[AshenSugar]

x1800xl's overclock too, you dont have to voltmod xl's though (unless youre going ott)

im not knocking the thing, its just i dont consider my card to be anywhere near one of most powerful, and i upgraded to this FROM an x850 (oblivion scared me into going for pixel shader 3)

was it worth the upgrade though...er, no not really IMHO

because you didnt read the reviews, the x800/850 xt/xtpe cards are only worth replacing with x1800xt 512mb and better cards, they are still a good card, but the x1900gt and up blow them out of the water in shader based games, because they have 36-48 shader units and newer/more vertex shaders, as well as better memory buss and such.

i still have my x800xt pe, its happly pluging along in my other box!!!!, my buddy comes over and hes got a system to play games on with me

personaly i wouldnt buy anything less then an x1900gt these days, u can find them for 130-160bucks depending on when and how hard you look have seen some that where 130 with a MIR of 20bucks, taking the price down to 110!!!!

 

[Canuto]

I don't care about brands, never did and will never do...
If it's good and affordable
Fanatics can kiss my ass

 

[AshenSugar]

Powercolor X550 512Mb Hipermemory @510/261Mhz...... thats good? i mean yeah its affordable, but.....ewww
i got a x600pro dvi2 card free with 256mb ddr2 on it sitting under my system just incase

 

[Verizon]

my geforce mx400/440 worked good for an agp 8x card, but now i can run doom3 roe at full qaulity and 2xaa on my x700pro but ati catalysyt is to much its not really meant for my card overall amd/ati for the rest of my life