Seriously, you talk down to me, and say you are smarter, and you don't even know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the 290X, but since you seem to think you're so much smarter than me, go figure out what card I'm talking about yourself.
Nope that I don't care enough to do. Also, you are losing this point because you are unable to provide information/proof. Seems you don't want to discuss it then. Your opinion about AMD is anyway way off, so it's unlikely you would've been right with your assumption.
And AMD's bad marketing is done to deceive. Anything with "Up To" speeds is meant to deceive. There is no getting around that fact. And if I'm "ignorant" than so is every professional reviewer, because they all believe the same thing I do. I don't think you'd be able to come up with a single respectable review of a 290/290X that calls the marketed speed the "base clock".
I don't care enough to search it up for you, but I assure you by my name that there are reviews seeing it as I do. And about marketing: you don't really understand marketing. You've proven that by now. Marketing ALWAYS is somewhat to deceive, ALWAYS. I cannot stress this enough. And basically everyone with the slightest clue about our capitalistic world knows this.
Btw. you made a very very bold statement here, so EVERY reviewer has your opinion? I want proof for that. Else you're talking stupid bullshit here.
No, you're making stuff up to try to cover you fanboy statements. AMD doesn't even call it a base clock. So, yeah, your speculation is wrong. Professional reviewers don't call it a base clock, AMD doesn't call it a base clock. So exactly how am I the one speculating and you are the one that isn't?
No I'm not making stuff up. And I don't care that you are too dumb to accept that I'm no fanboy. By now you have proven to me that your social skills are limited, as is your character, that is why you are unable to accept this.
What does AMD call it then? Proof? Again you are unable to provide information. And its silly that I always have to ask for it. You are so limited, sorry.
Only a fanboy would use the word "special" to describe thermal/power throttling. Special implies it is something positive that only they do. In reality, it is something negative that Intel and nVidia both do when necessary as well.
Only a idiot would call me a fanboy, after so much proof was provided by me that I'am not, aside from it being more than obvious without me saying anything. As I said, it's your social limitations hindering you. I really pity you by now.
By the stadnards of the industry, it is a turbo/boost clock. Again, I don't care what you want to try to say it is, if the card is designed to run consistently at a lower speed, and only reach that top speed for short periods of time before overheating/drawing too much power, then that upper clock is a turbo/boost clock. The base clock is the minimum clock speed the processor will always run at under load, not the maximum. The fact that 3rd party cooling allows the card cards to run at that speed all the time doesn't change this. 3rd party cooling allows Intel and nVidia processors to run at their turbo/boost speeds constantly too, that doesn't make them the base clock.
I discussed this with a friend of mine who is way more smart than you ever will be, and he shares my opinion, funny enough - and I didn't go the moral or emotional road for him saying the same as I do.
I already explained why it's no Turbo and I won't do it again, just because you are ignorant or too dumb. Sorry.
Edit: A turbo means additional speed, AMD graphics processors work at less speed, or base speed - so they have no turbo. AMD CPUs have Turbos like Intel / Nvidia ones.
Intel Turbo Boost (Wiki):
"Intel Turbo Boost is a technology implemented by
Intel in certain versions of its
processors that enables the processor to run above its base operating frequency via dynamic control of the processor's
clock rate."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Turbo_Boost
Nvidia GPU Boost (from Wiki):
"GPU Boost is a new feature which is roughly analogous to turbo boosting of a CPU. The GPU is always guaranteed to run at a minimum clock speed, referred to as the "base clock". This clock speed is set to the level which will ensure that the GPU stays within
TDP specifications, even at maximum loads.
[6] When loads are lower, however, there is room for the clock speed to be increased without exceeding the TDP. In these scenarios, GPU Boost will gradually increase the clock speed in steps, until the GPU reaches a predefined power target (which is 170W by default).
[7] By taking this approach, the GPU will ramp its clock up or down dynamically, so that it is providing the maximum amount of speed possible while remaining within TDP specifications."
Clearly not the same tech AMD uses. AMD has no turbo.
Also for the funs of laughing at you, because you don't know what a turbo is (Wiki: Turbocharger):
"A
turbocharger, or
turbo (colloquialism), from Greek "τύρβη" ("wake"),
[1] (also from Latin "turbo" ("spinning top"),
[2]) is a
turbine-driven
forced induction device
that increases an internal combustion engine's efficiency and power output by forcing extra air into the combustion chamber."
Also something a AMD GPU is not doing, because all it does is downclocking, not clocking higher. Also if a Fury X would have a turbo, it would not always run on 1050 MHz when stressed. It really does that, because it's the graphics cards base clock.
You know, you expect me to provide links and proof, how about you? I don't just take your word. Show me proof that AMD calls 1000MHz the base clock for the 290X.
I don't need to. Every shop is doing it. TPU is doing it too.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/
Good enough for me. But of course you will again be unable to understand or accept it. Hint: they use the base clocks there, even if it is not explicitly written down. But as this discussion is more about your ego than it is about the matter itself, you naturally won't accept my point again.
As for the proof you want:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review
Oh, what's that, they list the 1000MHz as a boost clock? Oh, and in the power and temperature page they talk about the unlisted base clock, and the 1000MHz being the turbo. So there is your proof.
TPU > anandtech. Me > you.
Oh, and
here is the architecture explanation taken pretty much directly from the AMD press kit. Funny, they go into block diagrams on how it works, but never once mention this "special feature" you talk about. You'd think if it was so special, they'd bother to mention it.
You're really going crazy because of that word "special" aren't you? Sorry bro, but get a life.
And you've either used it wrong or not at all every single time. But keep on laughing, ignorance is bliss.
I don't care much if a limited / ignorant person like yourself is calling me ignorant. You're in no position to criticize me.
And yet, you ignore the specs listed in the sig of every post I've made, out in plain site. And you want to say I'm ignorant because I didn't click on something to see yours, even though they have nothing to do with the issue. Ok...
You are more likely ignorant because of other things. And they had very well to do with the issue.
Umm, I already quoted them.
In defense of why AMD is better than Intel/nVidia you claim AMD has "never betrayed anyone". You have said on multiple occasions that AMD is not Intel, the context implying that they are somehow morally better than Intel because Intel is a big company that can get away with it and AMD isn't. The entire start of this argument is that you believe AMD will include the Wraith cooler with all their processors, again because Intel is big and evil and can get away with including crap coolers, but AMD is morally better and would never do that(even though they already do). Oh, and back to that, did you happen to catch the
latest news? Turns out I was right, Wraith coolers will come with only the high end processors, the standard aluminum chuck coolers will come with anything 95w and lower. So I guess we can just drop the whole thing now, because in the end you were in fact wrong. History repeats itself. Even though there is nothing anyone can do to change your mind that AMD is not Intel, and they wouldn't think to include poor quality coolers with their processors, and all the processors are getting Wraith coolers, it turns out you're wrong. So seems like a good place to leave this and move on.
The point why I said that they "never betrayed anyone" was already discussed. I asked for counter-proof of that, you didn't provide. So you lose that point too. And AMD in fact is not Intel, even a baby would understand this, but not you. Seems you are somewhat mislead. And please keep thinking you are winning anything here, I'm very amused. If you want to end the discussion, don't answer, or accept my points. Either way, you are not in a position to dictate anything here as you are still pretty wrong with your assumptions.
