Tuesday, February 2nd 2016

AMD Offers New Thermal Solutions and Processors for Near-Silent Performance

AMD today launched new thermal solutions, including the flagship AMD Wraith Cooler, as well as the new AMD A10-7860K and new AMD Athlon X4 845 desktop processors. Designed for the consumer who cares about how their desktop PC runs, sounds, and looks, AMD now offers new thermal solutions that generate less than one-tenth the noise of their predecessors -- running at a near-silent 39 decibels, about as quiet as a library.

The new AMD Wraith Cooler combines near-silent operation with unique styling via a sleek fan shroud and LED illumination. Providing superb cooling, the new design delivers 34 percent more airflow and 24 percent more surface area for heat dissipation than its predecessor.
"The new high quality, robust thermal solutions from AMD for select processors provide a great out-of-the-box experience at no additional cost to the consumer," said Merle McIntosh, senior vice president of Sales and Marketing, Newegg, Inc. "The Wraith model has attractive styling with LED lighting and runs exceptionally quietly -- features we expect will impress our tech savvy consumers."

The new AMD thermal solutions are included with seven AMD processors:
Introducing the AMD A10-7860K Desktop Processor
Quiet, efficient and an incredible value, the new AMD A10-7860K APU is powered by four CPU cores clocked at 4.00 GHz turbo boost and eight GPU cores with integrated Radeon R7 processor graphics running at 757 MHz to enable smooth play of popular online games like Dota 2, League of Legends, and Counter Strike: Global Offensive. The A10-7860K is the first unlocked desktop A10 processor to feature 65W TDP (Thermal Design Power) and includes a near-silent thermal solution rated at 95W TDP to ensure quiet operation. In addition, the AMD A10-7860K supports AMD FreeSync technology that puts an end to choppy gameplay and broken frames with fluid, artifact-free performance at virtually any framerate.

"Customers can build a capable, near-silent online gaming PC in a surprisingly small form factor for an unexpectedly low price" said Kevin Lensing, corporate vice president and general manager, Client Business Unit, AMD. "The low power requirements mean you can build a tiny system perfect for a small dorm room, for use in the living room as a home theatre PC (HTPC), and portable enough to take to a LAN party."

The New AMD Athlon X4 845 Desktop Processor
The AMD Athlon X4 845 is the first desktop processor featuring the AMD "Excavator" x86 architecture technology. The quad-core CPU is clocked at 3.80 GHz boost and offers the highest IPC (instructions per clock) AMD x86 performance yet. When paired with a discrete graphics card, the AMD Athlon X4 845 enables great gaming and multi-threaded processing performance for an attractive price. The new Athlon X4 845 is a 65W TDP processor that comes with a new AMD 95W thermal solution to provide excellent cooling performance and near-silent operation.

Pricing and Availability
The new AMD processors with new thermal solutions are available now at select e-tailers and participating system vendors.

Suggested price (SEP as of February 2, 2016):
  • AMD FX 8370 with Wraith - $199.99 USD
  • AMD A10-7860K - $116.99 USD
  • AMD A8-7670K - $104.99 USD
  • AMD A8-7650K - $94.99 USD
  • AMD Athlon X4 870K - $89.99 USD
  • AMD Athlon X4 860K - $79.99 USD
  • AMD Athlon X4 845 - $69.99 USD
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36 Comments on AMD Offers New Thermal Solutions and Processors for Near-Silent Performance

#1
btarunr
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I'm tempted af to pick up an X4 845.
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#2
medo
I think AMD underclocks the Athlon for a reason to not shoot themself in the foot, and let people buy the APU.

However that 845 with 65W paired with a cooler for 95W, sounds like they know the folks that will buy that will clock it to reach 4.0 Ghz and have some cheap fun.
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#3
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
That second cooler doesn't look any different than what they already give out...
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#4
Keullo-e
S.T.A.R.S.
newtekie1That second cooler doesn't look any different than what they already give out...
I guess they made the fan better than what was in those previous ones.
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#5
R-T-B
newtekie1That second cooler doesn't look any different than what they already give out...
Comparison shot?
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#6
buildzoid
medoI think AMD underclocks the Athlon for a reason to not shoot themself in the foot, and let people buy the APU.

However that 845 with 65W paired with a cooler for 95W, sounds like they know the folks that will buy that will clock it to reach 4.0 Ghz and have some cheap fun.
FSB on FM2+ is reasonably stable up to about 120mhz so 4.5Ghz should be doable.

I'm also thinking of getting an 845 just to play with it.
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#8
H82LUZ73
FX 8370 here i come :) Glad i waited to upgrade ,Now i don't have to worry about the cooler.

Black Cooler = FX line

Red = APU line i take it,red also =Team Red Graphics cards So does this mean new cards will have red fans now ?

Here is the video of the Old stock cooler and the new Wraith The cooler itself is bigger too.
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#9
kiddagoat
That looks very very similar to my old Opteron 165 cooler..... and my old Athlon64 chips...... Seems like old tech repackaged.....
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#10
hojnikb
buildzoidFSB on FM2+ is reasonably stable up to about 120mhz so 4.5Ghz should be doable.

I'm also thinking of getting an 845 just to play with it.
isn't amds "fsb" tied to everything like with intel ?
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#11
buildzoid
hojnikbisn't amds "fsb" tied to everything like with intel ?
It is but it's forgiving. 120mhz works with out having to turn off anything. To go above that you need to use as few USB devices as possible and switch the SATA controller to IDE mode.
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#12
TheGuruStud
Terrible prices. I've seen the 8320 for 100 bucks multiple times LOL.

And we still can't get a real excavator CPU. There must be a massive amount of steamrollers that they need to purge b/c excavator with the extra cache would yield decent IPC improvement.
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#13
hojnikb
buildzoidIt is but it's forgiving. 120mhz works with out having to turn off anything. To go above that you need to use as few USB devices as possible and switch the SATA controller to IDE mode.
I see. I think its still best to get the K version for a few bucks more and not worry about it. Too bad this carrizo chip isn't K edition.
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#14
lilhasselhoffer
Barring this somehow producing another long argument that stock coolers are or aren't acceptable...

The inclusion of heat pipes, instead of just a metal block (at least on the high end) is nice. I'm hoping that this cooler is a portent of things to come. Hopefully AMD will have gone all out, and between the architecture, connectivity, and new cooler that Zen will truly compete with Intel's offerings.

It seems like AMD is actually getting ready to give Intel a battle in the reasonably priced computers arena. I'd like to see them be able to fight Intel all the way to their low end enthusiast offerings, so that we'd actually see some progress there.


Admittedly, this is largely wish fulfillment. AMD cranking out a decent stock cooler is fine, but for an extra $20 I can probably get something better in the aftermarket. Kudos on the improvement, but don't stop here AMD.
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#16
ironwolf
lilhasselhofferAdmittedly, this is largely wish fulfillment. AMD cranking out a decent stock cooler is fine, but for an extra $20 I can probably get something better in the aftermarket. Kudos on the improvement, but don't stop here AMD.
For people like me who build AMD systems for entry level boxes, the improved HSF in the boxed processors is a very welcome change. Helps keep the cost of the system down and I don't have to buy another aftermarket cooler.
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#17
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
lilhasselhofferThe inclusion of heat pipes, instead of just a metal block (at least on the high end) is nice. I'm hoping that this cooler is a portent of things to come. Hopefully AMD will have gone all out, and between the architecture, connectivity, and new cooler that Zen will truly compete with Intel's offerings.
Their high end one has always had heatpipes, since the FX-60 days. This new cooler is just a better fan, and maybe even less fins.

R-T-BComparison shot?
Looks very similar to me, just a fan change it seems.
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#18
GhostRyder
Eh, I am interested in that 845, but based on the naming and such it unfortunately does not look like its unlocked which ruins some of the fun of those chips for me :(
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#19
lilhasselhoffer
newtekie1Their high end one has always had heatpipes, since the FX-60 days. This new cooler is just a better fan, and maybe even less fins.





Looks very similar to me, just a fan change it seems.
Good to know, and happy to admit my ignorance here.

What few AMD builds I've done in the last decade haven't had a heat pipe, though they were generally just APUs.

Kinda seems silly that Intel is still bound to a chunk of metal even on their high end mainstream components.
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#21
GreiverBlade
pechevs intel's i5 @ $199
at least you tried amd,
well ... in a ideal scenario where you use all core ... the FX-8370 stomp on the i5 feet...

they tried and did well technically ... ;)

wait i just checked your link... a 4590 not even a 4690K ... 199$? too expensive for what it is :laugh: ;) the FX-8370 is still a better deal depending the need of the users
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#22
peche
Thermaltake fanboy
GreiverBladewell ... in a ideal scenario where you use all core ... the FX-8370 stomp on the i5 feet...

they tried and did well technically ... ;)

wait i just checked your link... a 4590 not even a 4690K ... 199$? too expensive for what it is :laugh: ;) the FX-8370 is still a better deal depending the need of the users
i rather to use an intel i3 over using any FX processor, they are just crap lad...
im gonna check the link ... thanks ...

Edit: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117564&cm_re=intel_core_i5-_-19-117-564-_-Product
another great deal!
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#23
geon2k2
pechei rather to use an intel i3 over using any FX processor, they are just crap lad...
im gonna check the link ... thanks ...

Edit: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117564&cm_re=intel_core_i5-_-19-117-564-_-Product
another great deal!
I'm also running an i5 intel but I think you are wrong mate.

The FX CPUs are just fine, they are a bit slower and they consume a bit more, true, but nothing that would put them in the thrash bin and together with an i3.

Some time back I did an analysis based on the TechSpot gaming reviews for the latest AAA titles at the time and this are the findings:

CPU Performance index Average Frames
FX 8K category 9.24 73
FX 4K category 8.57 68
i5 category 9.93 78
i3 category 8.24 65
PII category 7.75 61

PII is phenom II, what I had at the time, i5 is mostly i5 3470 (3.2), sometimes 4670, FX 8K is the 8350 mostly. BTW above results are with top of the line GPUs, with mid range, there would probably not be any visible difference.

Modern software does use 4 or sometimes even more threads and in my analysis there were cases in which FX was faster than the i5 for example in Dying Light, Crew, Crysis 3, and the trend will continue further, multicore support will get better and better. The only AMD fault was that they came with this when the software was not ready and they paid in full for this mistake.

Recently there was a game on which i3 was not even working as it didn't had 4 cores, the Dragon Age Inquition I think. I didn't follow so I don't know if it was patched for this or not in the end.
Also FX is a real processor compared to that toy of i3 and FX can do so much more than with an i3, like encoding, virtual machines, database, etc.
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#24
peche
Thermaltake fanboy
for many builds I have done with amd for customers they use to get back intel, they also claim better experience with intel that amd, also I do own a Fx for crunch,

the most recent builds I have done include intel haswel i3's, they perform pretty fine, that’s why I mention i3's over FX, the unique thing I like about most amd units it’s the price, they are pretty affordable, decent units
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#25
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
pechei rather to use an intel i3 over using any FX processor, they are just crap lad...
geon2k2The FX CPUs are just fine, they are a bit slower and they consume a bit more, true, but nothing that would put them in the thrash bin and together with an i3.
You really can't make broad generalizations like this. This applies to both sides.

All FX processors aren't crap, they certainly all aren't at or below the i3 level. But some are.

I'd take a haswell/skylake desktop i3 over an FX-4XXX, but I'd take an FX-6XXX or FX-8XXX over an i3. And when you can get an FX-8300 for the same cost as an i3, I'd go with the FX...
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