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AMD "Vishera" FX-Series CPU Specifications Confirmed

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. AvonX New Member

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    You probably should stop responding altogether already.
    You have no idea of what you are talking about.
    When you say that Microsoft is holding back the industry, i should have probably stopped from reading any further.
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    avonx, your main problem is that your are comparing AMD to intel instead of just observing AMD. AMD makes a fine product, for the price its even better. the FX series flunked at what they marketed it towards which was gaming but it does AMAZING in other areas like rendering. they make a good product and keep intel prices at least in the realm of comprehension, if amd goes away nobody will replace them for quiet sometime, nobody has the money or the R&D setup to replace them either.

    facts are AMD is smaller then intel and thats just the way it is, they don't have the money intel has and that is fine because they make do with what they have. they make a good chip, maybe not by your standards but all that means is you need to stop considering AMD... just buy intel, thats fine with me and everyone else in the world. no one is forcing you to buy AMD, hell i haven't even seen a post of someone ASKING you to buy AMD so why the fuss really? go back to the intel threads and just relax...
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    Who told you that nobody has the money? That is a big fat lie.
    AMD has the X86 licenses and that is the only thing that keeps them in in the cpu business.
    Because AMD does not know how to design cpus anymore. They are only causing damage to the consumers with low performance products which leaves most consumers at the hands of Intel and they have no other choices.
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    This is simply not true. AMD has pioneered a LOT of new hardware standards, where do you think Intel got X64 from? It certainly had nothing to to do with the horrible Itanium debacle. Nor anything to do with Prescott EE melt your face it gets so hot.

    Not everyone can afford a Ferrari, so thus we have AMD.

    My beef is their crappy marketing, the 7/10 times their ideas flop due to lack of support from them, and turd polishing.
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    You can thank AMD 4 pushing innovation for Intel's 3D gates. One thing people fail to understand is Intel can afford to screw up, where as AMD cannot. Intel messed up and tried to stall innovation many times in History. If it wasn't for AMD's blunt headstrong innovation to succeed, we would all be still using Pentium 5 or 6's right now.

    AND with its limited R & D still led the industry in a much better path vs. What Intel wanted to do, not to mention AMD designing some nice hardware that competed strong.

    or x86 microprocessor innovations, AMD has shown the way as well.
    First superscalar RISC - K5
    First to use "Flip-Chip" technology - K6
    First on-chip L2 cache - K6-3
    First use of copper interconnects - K7
    First fully pipelined, superscalar floating point unit - K7
    First to extend x86 to 64-bits (AMD64) - K8
    First IMC (Integrated Memory Controller) - Athlon 64
    First Dual-Core processors Athlon 64 x2
    First Quad-Core processors
    First 8- Core processors - Bulldozer
    Etc......:D
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    Dont forget about AMD pushing DDR2 versus Intel and the RD Ram. Who won in the end? AMD :D
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    that was DDR actually
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    Super XP you forgot about first IMC.

    But anyway, let's not get off-topic here (because we all know how a thread of Intel vs AMD ends up).
    I don't see a problem IF AMD chooses not to make high end desktop parts, it's their money and perhaps they want to spend in on things that they think it's important.
    If you want them to make high end chip, be my guest and invest a few billions, these things don't fall from the sky.
    They obviously shifted their focus onto APU's and if they see the future in that good for them (remember when people said the following: why do you need a 64-bit CPU when a 32-bit is enough, why do you need 2 cores when you only need 1 etc. same thing with APU's).
    Not having a roadmap for so called high end chips is not the end of the world.
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    Great point. Also AMD rules in overall value especially if you are looking to build a gaming PC.

    Anyhow, if Piledriver ends up faster, runs cooler and OC's like a madman, who's in for one?
    For me it has to perform upwards of 15% or more in my favorite games. Even then I am quite happy with my FX 8120 @4.40 GHz with all 8 Cores enabled... :D
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    Maybe I upgrade but what I have is doing just fine for now. Would be nice to see the Piledrivers do well though.
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    And one more thing, there is lots of huge companies with "lots" of money but they know the current status of AMD. AMD is left with lots of unskilled and inexperienced engineers who are just copy pasting cores and they are not innovating, plus they are left with no "fabs" of their own. That is why huge investors with the huge "bucks" don't invest their money at AMD.
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    What part of this is even close to anything other than your own opinion?

    Please stop now.
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    Actually AMD do quite well in the server/oem market.
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    Wow, this thread just goes in one circle after another. Here's an idea... Stop responding to the one who keeps repeating the same things over and over again and this dead horse beating show will stop.

    Thanks.
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    Hey, did I miss something? :D
    I call upon the Piledriver gods to grant a 25% performance increase with lower volts for our beloved Vishera processors.
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    Who cares what tier AMD CPUs are? Anything above Conroe performance levels (read: everything current) is enough for most tasks.
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    How comes a more powerful cpu with a better gpu uses the same 65W as other cpus?
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    The manufacturing process plays a role next to the design. Better process should get you better wattage.
    It says Steamroller was suppose to be the Bulldozer 1.5 years ago because it changes a lot and is going to be much faster. Good read.
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    wondering how steam roller is going to be priced. and if they will decrease the bulldozer prices then.
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    AMD already lowered BD prices about two weeks ago, IIRC
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    I only blame M$ for killing 3D sound on PC. I still don't understand how in 2012 games are sounding way worst than the games 10 years ago. Unreal, Deus Ex, Thief, FEAR anyone? :shadedshu
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    Direct Sound and EAX/ were smooshed with the new driver model of Vista and higher cuz you guessed it- Realtek...:shadedshu

    Environmental sound helped even 2.1 systems considerably, since not everyone can have a 5.1/7.1 system
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    It will be very interesting to see just how well these new chips Oc, what with Amd switching to High Density:)laugh: isnt everything HD now) cell libraries i cant help but think that wont do OCing any good, i mean Gpu's use them now and i dont remember anyone getting one of them to 5Ghz+, my longed for end goal this year:)

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