anyone buying a 8800 gts 512mb tomarrow

[jpierce55]

Well it appears the 8800 gts 512mb is a very good card but that the basic 8800 gt at 249.00 when oced with a accelero s1 or other chaep after market cooling can match or exceed a 8800 gts even oced. they run neck and neck. It appears nvida made the 8800gt too good for business, but I still want one.

I was about to ask if it is worth it, I guess not. Anybody buying imho should go 8800gt or wait until the next gen, or if you can get and under $230 3870 it might not be so bad.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Thanks for the link...But....From what I just read on that site the overclock on the GTS was with the stock heat sink. And most of the benchmarks show the GTS in a clear lead...?

This is where he says the GT gets beat by the GTS in every one of their benchmarks.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ts-512mb-g92-alpha-dog-edition-review-15.html


But it was nice to see him hit 820Mhz on the stock cooler. On water look out!! Actually from that review it looks like the GTS core is much more OC'able then a GT...And I didn't buy this to run at stock speeds.

Quit trying to give me buyers remorse!! LOL.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Are you reading what youre posting??

"This card also beats the 8800GT in every single test." LMAO

"overly loud fan" not on water........

Oh wait....Maybe your talking about the GTX and Ultra, and Im talking about the GT?

 

[trt740]

Thanks for the link...But....From what I just read on that site the overclock on the GTS was with the stock heat sink. And most of the benchmarks show the GTS in a clear lead...?

This is where he says the GT gets beat by the GTS in every one of their benchmarks.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ts-512mb-g92-alpha-dog-edition-review-15.html


But it was nice to see him hit 820Mhz on the stock cooler. On water look out!! Actually from that review it looks like the GTS core is much more OC'able then a GT...And I didn't buy this to run at stock speeds.

Quit trying to give me buyers remorse!! LOL.

here is one where a 8800 gt oced is compared against a 8800 gts and a bunch of different combos of cards http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/nvidia8800gts/conclusion.php the oced 880 gt beats a 8800 gts stock and we know aswell that a 8800 gt can go much higher mine would kill the overclocked 8800 gt in this reveiw.

 

[trt740]

Are you reading what youre posting??

"This card also beats the 8800GT in every single test." LMAO

"overly loud fan" not on water........

Oh wait....Maybe your talking about the GTX and Ultra, and Im talking about the GT?

no i'm being fair it's got a loud fan as I said and it does beat a 8800 gt but doesn't justify 70.00 in price look at the other review as well. They are very close

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/nvidia8800gts/conclusion.php

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Again, first thing I read on that review said "Additionally performance always exceeds that of the reference GT"

But I will read the entire review rather then just the conclusion page. OK...I did. It looks like both were using the stock coolers.

Everytime the GTS was in the lead. I agree the difference is small in some games but up to 15fps in others.

Wouldnt you agree that with a much better cooler the GTS will clock further then the GT...No voltmods, just better cooling. So what im getting at is if you are looking to overclock a new video that will kick butt, then this is a great card. If your not planning on OC;ing then just get the GT.

Because you are right. If you dont want to spend the extra cash on a good cooler and the more expensive GTS then the GT is the clear winner, even though its a tiny bit slower.

 

[trt740]

Again, first thing I read on that review said "Additionally performance always exceeds that of the reference GT"

But I will read the entire review rather then just the conclusion page.

again the oced 8800 gt beats the reference 8800 gts . Again your right too aswell.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

GT overclocked to GTS

As you can see for yourself the performance with 4xAA/16xAF is mild.

 

[strick94u]

again the oced 8800 gt beats the reference 8800 gts .

I saw that before I ordered but the added stream processors should make game play better and the fact I get free cyrsis game plus I all ready have a home for the gt. I feel ok with my decision besides its only money
good thing I got a fat bonus check friday

 

[trt740]

I saw that before I ordered but the added stream processors should make game play better and the fact I get free cyrsis game plus I all ready have a home for the gt. I feel ok with my decision besides its only money
good thing I got a fat bonus check friday

hey is about 100.00 worth 18 streaming processors. I must have thought so because I bought one but I can see the otherside too.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

I would place these two cards much like the x1900xt vs the x1900xtx. Almost = in benchmarks, and you could easily surpass the xtx by doing a moderate overclock, that is until you overclock the xtx to speeds the xt just cant hit. Only because the xtx had cherry picked cores.

 

[Tatty_Two]

As a comparison between the 8800GTS 640MB and the 8800GT 512MB, owning both I can safely say that a voltmodded 640MB Gainward 8800GTS @ 720/1050 is around 1,800 3D Mark 2006 points behind the 8800GT 512MB @ just 760/1050, apart from that the rigs were identical, same CPU and speed, same memory and speed etc etc. Now how that actually translates into real world gaming IDK, probably just a few FPS but a difference nevertheless but I agree probably not a big enough jump from a 640 old GTS to a GT unless you can get a good price for it, then it would be probably worth getting the new GTS.

As for me, I am pondering the new GTS, there are loads on the shelves already in the UK but the prices are unbeleivably high, the cheapest i can find (Zotac) is £210 which equates to around $430 and some are as much as £258 which equates to almost $530 ffs!

 

[strick94u]

hey is about 100.00 worth 18 streaming processors. I must have thought so because I bought one but I can see the otherside too.

I remember paying 250 bucks for a 4 meg matrox in 1995 399.99 for a 9800 in 2001 or so.
And most recently a butt load of cash for the gts 640 the only thing I can say is it's still cheaper than street racing which is what my computer addiction replaced and I am insane to top it off

 

[curt]

ok im not shure what i found or if its important

but the 8800gt does not suport nv-cuda

but the gts does [im only talking about the 8800gts.s like mine not the 256bit vershions

allso the 8800gts is the same core they use on the tesla s870 card
going by nvidias site
[if it was better dont u think theyed use the 8800gt]

 

[a_ump]

i agree with a lot said above, ATI needs to hurry up and get a high-end card out, though i guess its better to wait to give them time to blow us away but that's also giving nvidia time to blow us and ATI away like they did to the 2900XT, but as for the 8800GTS it reminds me a lot of the GTX or Ultra situation earlier this yr, the Ultra was and is a little faster than the GTX but the GTX is cheaper, the GTS is a little faster than the GT but the the GT is cheaper. all depends on personal wants. i personally am goin to order 2 GTS's for SLI because even though the cooler doesn't do all that better of a job than the GT, wat heat is despersed is mostly exhausted out the back of the case, not left in ur case like the GT. the fan is also quieter, and i plan on ocing them and yes THEY WILL BE BETTER THAN THE GT OC'ED IF THEY'RE OC'ED.

 

[a_ump]

ok im not shure what i found or if its important

but the 8800gt does not suport nv-cuda

but the gts does [im only talking about the 8800gts.s like mine not the 256bit vershions

allso the 8800gts is the same core they use on the tesla s870 card
going by nvidias site
[if it was better dont u think theyed use the 8800gt]

dude just google benchmarks on the 8800GT there's not a single benchmark that i can thk of where the 8800GTS 640MB did better than it, and then once ur done with that google the new GTS and i've only found 2 benchs tweaktown, and http://news.filefront.com/nvidia-geforce-8800-gts-g92-test-run/ both show the GTS doin better than the GT and GTS 640MB. look stuff up b4 u argue

 

[J-Man]

I don't see the point in upgrading to this card if you have a GTS 320MB or 640MB or even a GTX. The 9800 GTX will be out next year sometime.

 

[trt740]

I don't see the point in upgrading to this card if you have a GTS 320MB or 640MB or even a GTX. The 9800 GTX will be out next year sometime.

it kills a 8800 gts 320 the rest of the cards you might have a point, some might argue about the 8800 gts 640 mb but good point in a sense.

 

[a_ump]

definetly not if u have a gtx it only looses in like 1 bench out of all of them and that's in bench on tweaktown i thk on crysis at 1920x1200. as for the 640 i'd hold out till the 9xxx or 89xx cards come out as well

 

[Tatty_Two]

IMO, if you have a GTX, no point in upgrading to a new GTS.....because it's not really an upgrade.....simple! If you have a old GTS 640, no point in upgarding to the GT (I did and the GT IS faster, cooler, less power draw etc etc) but the performance difference is only about the same as the difference between the GT and new GTS, if you have any of the old GTS's it is probably worth upgrading to the new GTS if you can get a decent price for your old card.....other than that.....wait for the 9 series in Feb I beleive.

 

[Huxley2k7]

You could wait for the 9 series, but aren't they going to be a hell of a lot more expensive and bring with them more driver problems etc? I'd say till at least late feb or March you'll have a decent working 9 series card and for what price?

I think the the new 8800GTS is the best upgrade solution for people like me, on an X1900XT/mid range card that is going on nearly 2 years old. Or people with the old GTS models. People who already have an 8800GT, or a GTX for that matter - upgrading to the new GTS is just plain dumb, why you would - i don't know.

The problem is, the UK prices are absolutely ridiculous and ill be damned if im paying that much for it. That really ticks me off, might be cheaper to just import it from the US.

 

[Tatty_Two]

You could wait for the 9 series, but aren't they going to be a hell of a lot more expensive and bring with them more driver problems etc? I'd say till at least late feb or March you'll have a decent working 9 series card and for what price?

I think the the new 8800GTS is the best upgrade solution for people like me, on an X1900XT/mid range card that is going on nearly 2 years old. Or people with the old GTS models. People who already have an 8800GT, or a GTX for that matter - upgrading to the new GTS is just plain dumb, why you would - i don't know.

The problem is, the UK prices are absolutely ridiculous and ill be damned if im paying that much for it. That really ticks me off, might be cheaper to just import it from the US.

Not sure what you mean by driver problems, I didnt have any with the GT, straight out of the box, revved up and performed nicely. The 9 series no doubt will be more expensive but at least there will be a couple of models (teh GTS and the GTX) available pretty soon after release, I think the GTX is comoing first followed a month later with the GTS, if speculation is beleived even the GTS will be more than 50% faster than this new GTS. I agree with your points about the upgrade path which is more or less what I said also.

I however am still not convinced that the new GTS is a better bet than the GT, the way I understand it from the bits I have read, unlike the GT which 3D perf stock voltage is 1.05V the GTS is already stocked at the max 1.1V (hence the extra power draw, apparently it needs a bit more juice for the extra SP's etc), at least with the GT anyone should they want can do a simple BIOS mod and push 1.1V through, I appreciate only keen overclockers will do this but with that you can get upto 760 on the core easy, it would seem from W1zzards review of the 8800GTS 512MB and a couple of other reviews I have read that the max overclock of at least some of the GTS's is around 720-730mhz, I am willing to bet, for an overclocker at least, that the GT at 760mhz is as fast as the GTS at 730Mhz. Once the prices in the UK do eventually settle down we will probably see a price difference between the 2 cards of around £60, I am just not convinced that 60 quids difference is good bang for buck, even at stock speeds the "across the board" improvement according to W1zzards review is 6%.

 

[Wile E]

I remember paying 250 bucks for a 4 meg matrox in 1995 399.99 for a 9800 in 2001 or so.
And most recently a butt load of cash for the gts 640 the only thing I can say is it's still cheaper than street racing which is what my computer addiction replaced and I am insane to top it off

LOL!!! That's EXACTLY why I started tinkering with computers. Small world.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Several of the review links on this thread (Above) have the GTS over 800Mhz.

 

[Huxley2k7]

I however am still not convinced that the new GTS is a better bet than the GT, the way I understand it from the bits I have read, unlike the GT which 3D perf stock voltage is 1.05V the GTS is already stocked at the max 1.1V (hence the extra power draw, apparently it needs a bit more juice for the extra SP's etc), at least with the GT anyone should they want can do a simple BIOS mod and push 1.1V through, I appreciate only keen overclockers will do this but with that you can get upto 760 on the core easy, it would seem from W1zzards review of the 8800GTS 512MB and a couple of other reviews I have read that the max overclock of at least some of the GTS's is around 720-730mhz, I am willing to bet, for an overclocker at least, that the GT at 760mhz is as fast as the GTS at 730Mhz. Once the prices in the UK do eventually settle down we will probably see a price difference between the 2 cards of around £60, I am just not convinced that 60 quids difference is good bang for buck, even at stock speeds the "across the board" improvement according to W1zzards review is 6%.

Well im pretty convinced the GTS will be very nicely overclocked, yes, an overclocked GT will perform similarly, if not better, than a stock GTS. So... Overclock your GTS? I'm not a massive overclocker, and im the kinda guy who buys the card, uses it for a year or so, THEN decides its time to overclock to squeeze out that last bit of juice before my next upgrade.

I am however shocked by these UK prices. Shocked AND appaled to be quite honest, you and others are quite right that the 'bang-for-buck' here does not add up. It is swaying my decision, should i get a GT over GTS now? I don't know.