Apple Worth More Than IBM and Intel

[Lopez0101]

The Compaq's throughout the rest of my old school had no problems what so ever, never saw one of those crash. I'm not the only one that will tell you Mac's crash just as easily with video/photo editing programs as PC's and it's not JUST because of the school setting.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Hmmm. So selling things for high prices as opposed to reasonable prices seems to be the key to fiscal success of a company. (Whether it's server hardware, OS software, or personal computers)

Too true, good sir.

Look at Cisco. They make shitty products and charge the most obscene prices ever. You would think they were affiliated with Halliburton or something. It is that bad. It's also really sad when I can hook up a free comp and load some linux router/firewall program on in it that's better than a multi-thousand dollar cisco router. Or load new firmware on an old linksys wireless and smack those aironets back to hell (although cisco's high end aironets are the ONLY products they make that work reliably).

It makes me want to triple tap anyone who likes cisco

 

[Wile E]

Hmmm. So selling things for high prices as opposed to reasonable prices seems to be the key to fiscal success of a company. (Whether it's server hardware, OS software, or personal computers)

Their OS costs $130 retail, and you get all the features it has to offer. No tiered offerings.

They're PCs aren't overpriced either, but I've been over this time and time again on these forums, so I'll refrain this time. I'm just tired of saying it.

Some Apple products are pricey. Like their laptops and iPods and such, but they also bring features that others in their respective segments don't include. Whether or not these features are worth what they are charging, is up to whomever buys them, I suppose. Not generally worth it for me, under normal circumstances, but when you include things like student or corporate discounts, I'll take an iPod over most other mp3 players any day, due solely to their aftermarket support.

 

[ex_reven]

The Compaq's throughout the rest of my old school had no problems what so ever, never saw one of those crash. I'm not the only one that will tell you Mac's crash just as easily with video/photo editing programs as PC's and it's not JUST because of the school setting.

What spec were the compaq's tho.
Just because its a mac doesnt mean it was made for video editing...

 

[tvdang7]

no, thanks to the ipod, the iphone and all thier accesories on top of the mac computer sales, intel is lagging behind them. just think of how many people you know with an ipod. that should answer your question.

true but lots of ppl have intel cpus and chipsets. they have sold so much. owell mind blowing.

 

[spacejunky]

"Behind the curve in performance" depends strictly on what specific hardware you are testing, and whether or not you stick to the same core components as the Mac. What model Mac did they test against what PC hardware? Where they testing an iMac vs a standard desktop PC? If so, that's not a fair comparison. For the test to be fair, the hardware has to be identical.

it was a totaly fair comparison. They first used the same core2 duo mac pro for both OSes and programs.

 

[Wile E]

true but lots of ppl have intel cpus and chipsets. they have sold so much. owell mind blowing.

Even the current Macs use Intel chipsets and cpus. Kinda funny.

 

[ex_reven]

true but lots of ppl have intel cpus and chipsets. they have sold so much. owell mind blowing.

Consider though, that ipods sell at a price similar to that (or more of an intel cpu).
Heaps of cpus will be celerons or pentiums, costing less.

Then think of the production costs. ipods are probably a heap less expensive to manufacture, and they are definately a shitload less expensive in terms of design and engineering.

 

[Lopez0101]

The compaqs were older than the iMacs, just P4 machines. iMacs did use CRT monitors and it's obvious when a speaker, with a magnet, is messing with a CRT when it starts screwing up the image.

 

[ex_reven]

The compaqs were older than the iMacs, just P4 machines. iMacs did use CRT monitors and it's obvious when a speaker, with a magnet, is messing with a CRT when it starts screwing up the image.

According to wiki, emacs used processors of 700-1.4ghz.
While Pentium 4 was about a minimum speed of 1.4ghz
That partially explains why the compaqs were better.

 

[Wile E]

it was a totaly fair comparison. They first used the same core2 duo mac pro for both OSes and programs.

Wait, was this only an OS X vs Windows test? I was under the impression you meant hardware vs hardware as well as OS vs OS. I know exactly what article you are referring to now. Most of the OS X programs they used were either beta (read: no where near optimized. And that was mentioned in the article, iirc), or still written for the PPC architecture, and running under rosetta (ppc emulation), of course they were slower. Retest that with the current software available, (aka: Universal Binary. Both PPC and x86 native) and tell me it's a landslide.

 

[Wile E]

According to wiki, emacs used processors of 700-1.4ghz.
While Pentium 4 was about a minimum speed of 1.4ghz
That partially explains why the compaqs were better.

Actually, the iMacs he is reffering to are before the eMacs. His school's iMacs are G3s, if they were actually called iMacs. Even worse than the eMacs. Also not a very good comparison in this case, but he is right about the speakers and crt. I hated the crt i and e Macs. Although, if he is just mistaken, and they are eMacs, they're a G4.

 

[ex_reven]

Actually, the iMacs he is reffering to are before the eMacs. His school's iMacs are G3s. Even worse than the eMacs. Also not a very good comparison in this case, but he is right about the speakers and crt. I hated the crt i and e Macs.

I hated them too.

Especially the gay floral patterns and shit on the back of the crt.
What the fuck was that

 

[von kain]

if there is a company with humor thats apple it always make people want to start laughing when it says we are the better no ones really know why they are the better but apple just keep tell it

 

[a111087]

if there is a company with humor thats apple it always make people want to start laughing when it says we are the better no ones really know why they are the better but apple just keep tell it

agree, like those Apple ads.

 

[3991vhtes]

P4 dual cores? you mean Pentium D?

Eh, yeah. They're Pentium D's.