Best liquid cpu cooler under 200 dollars.

[Nabarun]

Nah, nabarun dont think I can, I rather get things closer to where I live, that way if there's anything wrong, it will be easier to deal with. So back to back to my question, what do you guys reckon about the h105

The H105 has a *bit* thicker rad than the h100/h110i, but performance isn't THAT better. If you absolutely can't get the Swiftech, then my recommendation will be the Cooler Master Nepton 280L. The chassis you've got DEMANDS a better water cooler than what Corsair currently offers.

 

[GreiverBlade]

When you say failed. It just stopped working or started leaking? They come with a 5 year warranty so meh..

well 1st pump fail then leak then pump fail again on the 2nd then leak (after 2 RMA i gave up ) Corsair is Corsair ... i don't like playing roulette with my hardware

 

[tuunade988]

Hmm the coolermaster nepton seems pretty promising. I Wil have a llook into it, what are the differences exactly what does the H105 have and the nepton doesn't? Vice versa.

 

[d1nky]

If it were me and having the case size, I'd get the xspc kit in that price range!

Far better than any aio.

And kids remember a loop is for life not just for Christmas!

 

[GreiverBlade]

well corsair is corsair ... that's all ...

joking aside ... what's the difference? mainly the price and build quality, and all the H105 has the Nepton 280L has it, i had both brand one failed the other no ... so much for the pionner of AIO CWC my Seidon 120v outperformed my H60 (push/pull for both) and was like 20chf less it was even close of the H70 (which has performance near a H80) and cost less by a 30chf~

so why pay more because of the hype of a brand (PSU RAM AIO CWC corsair has a good reputation and it shadow the "real" review)

oh wait ... H105 ahahahaha well the main difference in the end is : H105 is a 240mm rad and the Nepton 280L is a 280mm rad ... more surface, more dissipation (the H110 is the counterpart of the Nepton 280L)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103198&cm_re=Nepton-_-35-103-198-_-Product 119.99$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181060&cm_re=H105-_-35-181-060-_-Product 104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181035&cm_re=H110-_-35-181-035-_-Product 114.99
ok the Nepton 280L is the pricier but he is worth it

furthermore look at the CFM in the pics here


looking at Corsair for me is like looking a VW priced like a Vairon, where all the other brand look like what they should be.

If it were me and having the case size, I'd get the xspc kit in that price range!

Far better than any aio.

And kids remember a loop is for life not just for Christmas!

well even a XSPC kit under 200$ is not what everyone can afforde ... and i mean mount and maintenance not price ... keep in mind that people turn to AIO because of the hassle a Cloop can be (and nope not everybody should find it easy if someone find it easy)

(judging by the last sentence ... AIO user are kids??? )

 

[tuunade988]

At Mwave.com.au their both selling for the same price. Having a bigger radiator... How much of a difference can it make? In terms of cooling performance and temperatures.

 

[GreiverBlade]

At Mwave.com.au their both selling for the same price. Having a bigger radiator... How much of a difference can it make? In terms of cooling performance and temperatures.

well the 280 will be better no matter how you look at it ... not only for cooling but also as i said it once for build quality.

 

[tuunade988]

I see thanks, so I'm guessing I would mount the radiator on the top of the case?

 

[Nabarun]

I see thanks, so I'm guessing I would mount the radiator on the top of the case?

Yes, and you can even put an extra set of fans (like the Noctua NF-A14 PWM) for even better performance. But honestly, I have no idea about your AMD hardware and whether it is worth spending so much on chassis and cooler. You decide. But the Nepton definitely is a far better AIO than the corsair linup. And I think the SP120 fans that come with the Corsair units are the loudest out there. So if you want a really high overclock and relatively quite operation, I would steer clear of corsair. On the site where you intend to buy from, the Nepton is cheaper than the H110 and same as H105. Build quality of CM products are by no means inferior to that of Corsair's. So don't get sucked by that 5yr warranty. It's a no-brainer.

 

[Vario]

2x140mm rad makes no sense because there are no good fans. If you do buy a loop get a 2x120 or a 1x120 thick rad.

 

[Nabarun]

The stock fans (jetflo 140) on the Nepton are certainly good-enough for the job. Of course he can always get those Noctuas if he wants. The real question is how much cooling he really needs.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

2x140mm rad makes no sense because there are no good fans. If you do buy a loop get a 2x120 or a 1x120 thick rad.

there are good 140 fans but for the most part it doesnt matter

if its closed loop system the 280 rads are fine. In my own testing the H105 beats the H110 240 vs 280 however the H110 was 10 dBA quieter to put that into perspective.

It goes from 54 dBA on the 240mm to an acceptable at 45 dBA on the 280mm. That noise drop is immense.

If the case has room I would take an H110 over an H105 same goes for the Nepton 280 if the price is similar I would take the Nepton and keep the fans speeds at 1600 or less thus noise levels stay down while getting good performance.

 

[d1nky]

well corsair is corsair ... that's all ...

joking aside ... what's the difference? mainly the price and build quality, and all the H105 has the Nepton 280L has it, i had both brand one failed the other no ... so much for the pionner of AIO CWC my Seidon 120v outperformed my H60 (push/pull for both) and was like 20chf less it was even close of the H70 (which has performance near a H80) and cost less by a 30chf~

so why pay more because of the hype of a brand (PSU RAM AIO CWC corsair has a good reputation and it shadow the "real" review)

oh wait ... H105 ahahahaha well the main difference in the end is : H105 is a 240mm rad and the Nepton 280L is a 280mm rad ... more surface, more dissipation (the H110 is the counterpart of the Nepton 280L)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103198&cm_re=Nepton-_-35-103-198-_-Product 119.99$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181060&cm_re=H105-_-35-181-060-_-Product 104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181035&cm_re=H110-_-35-181-035-_-Product 114.99
ok the Nepton 280L is the pricier but he is worth it

furthermore look at the CFM in the pics here
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looking at Corsair for me is like looking a VW priced like a Vairon, where all the other brand look like what they should be.



well even a XSPC kit under 200$ is not what everyone can afforde ... and i mean mount and maintenance not price ... keep in mind that people turn to AIO because of the hassle a Cloop can be (and nope not everybody should find it easy if someone find it easy)

(judging by the last sentence ... AIO user are kids??? )

I said kids, because it was related to christmas and toys not being just for christmas.

Ive plugged in my loop and not had to do any maintenance for around 6 months apart from dusting.

the reason i recommend custom or starter kit is because it will last many years without problems, its up-gradable and most enthusiasts like to upgrade.

with a h100 or similar (apart from the swiftech designs) if it breaks you have to replace the entire thing! with a loop you replace the parts, can adapt and looks and performs better.


when i started my loop i couldnt afford much but i slowly upgraded and found used rads etc which are inexpensive. Now i have a beast of a loop and can use it for anything.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I said kids, because it was related to christmas and toys not being just for christmas.
Ive plugged in my loop and not had to do any maintenance for around 6 months apart from dusting.
the reason i recommend custom or starter kit is because it will last many years without problems, its up-gradable and most enthusiasts like to upgrade.
with a h100 or similar (apart from the swiftech designs) if it breaks you have to replace the entire thing! with a loop you replace the parts, can adapt and looks and performs better.
when i started my loop i couldnt afford much but i slowly upgraded and found used rads etc which are inexpensive. Now i have a beast of a loop and can use it for anything.

i was technically joking when i noted out the "kids" part no worries, also i join you on your thought since i look to do a Cloop for my new Carbide Spec-01 since it can house 1 240 or 1 280 ( no hdd tray do the trick) or 1 120 and i am getting a ref 290 but i think for the moment i will go for a AIO and a Arctic Accelero Hybrid II for the GPU until i find the right "setup" i want

 

[Nabarun]

there are good 140 fans but for the most part it doesnt matter

if its closed loop system the 280 rads are fine. In my own testing the H105 beats the H110 240 vs 280 however the H110 was 10 dBA quieter to put that into perspective.

It goes from 54 dBA on the 240mm to an acceptable at 45 dBA on the 280mm. That noise drop is immense.

If the case has room I would take an H110 over an H105 same goes for the Nepton 280 if the price is similar I would take the Nepton and keep the fans speeds at 1600 or less thus noise levels stay down while getting good performance.

The Nepton is $10 cheaper than the H110 on the site he wants to buy from.

 

[tuunade988]

So, im still doing some research and i believe that the coolermaster nepton can fit 4 fans on the radiator? so i could set up 2 push and pull configurations on the radiator with all 4 140mm fans?

 

[GreiverBlade]

So, im still doing some research and i believe that the coolermaster nepton can fit 4 fans on the radiator? so i could set up 2 push and pull configurations on the radiator with all 4 140mm fans?

iirc the 280L is like any AIO : able to fit 2 set of fan (altho i never seen Corsair giving a 2nd set of screw on a aH60/60i on opposite of CM who do it even with the over cheap Seidon 120v, so i think also the Nepton should have extra screws)... so, logically it would be a 280mm push pull yes ...

 

[AphexDreamer]

I personally just bought this http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...ew_Rev_4_Pump_Included_w_Free_Dead-Water.html

155 with shipping and a 5.1% discount with code OCN.

Great reviews and a great starter kit that you can expand or sell pieces/upgrade individual pieces. Quite and performs great.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I personally just bought this http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...ew_Rev_4_Pump_Included_w_Free_Dead-Water.html

155 with shipping and a 5.1% discount with code OCN.

Great reviews and a great starter kit that you can expand or sell pieces/upgrade individual pieces. Quite and performs great.

i think why the OP choose AIO is he is not comfortable with WC loop kit, (the main reason why people go AIO is ease of setup and use)
if only your kit was that cheap where i am ... i would definitely take that over a H100/100i/105/110 (but not over a Nepton 280L ) but they are around 300$ where i live (cheapest kit) .... so nope xD

 

[AphexDreamer]

i think why the OP choose AIO is he is not comfortable with WC loop kit, (the main reason why people go AIO is ease of setup and use)
if only your kit was that cheap where i am ... i would definitely take that over a H100/100i/105/110 (but not over a Nepton 280L ) but they are around 300$ where i live (cheapest kit) .... so nope xD

You sure? One thing to note is that they have different kits, like the EX and RX or something like that, aslo the numbers vary 240, 360 etc..

Also AIO might be easier to setup but I don't think its difficult to setup a custom kit to begin with, especially when they give you everything and provide you with instructions, not to mention youtube if full of tutorials. This is going to be my first WC kit ever and I'm looking forward to setting up on my own, the feeling of success will be that much more rewarding. But to each their own.

 

[GreiverBlade]

You sure? One thing to note is that they have different kits, like the EX and RX or something like that, aslo the numbers vary 240, 360 etc.

pretty sure for the price and it would not be the first time that something would cost twice the $ price in chf ...

Also AIO might be easier to setup but I don't think its difficult to setup a custom kit to begin with, especially when they give you everything and provide you with instructions, not to mention youtube if full of tutorials.

not everyone think so or is able to follow instruction (for some even reading a leaflet is a hassle)

This is going to be my first WC kit ever and I'm looking forward to setting up on my own, the feeling of success will be that much more rewarding. But to each their own.

well yes and no .... something who work out of the box and doesn't risk to sprung a leak (well ... as long as you stay away from corsair ... AIO tend to rarely leak, only H60 and 55 had that problem Cooler master on the other hand never, on a same period of use ofc) is also rewarding, remember a AIO also give you everything (and cost less take less space need less work, see the thing under a global opinion, not only a personal )

and i technically would prefer a kit over a AIO or the Katana 4 i will use tomorrow but the price is a set off

 

[Nabarun]

So, im still doing some research and i believe that the coolermaster nepton can fit 4 fans on the radiator? so i could set up 2 push and pull configurations on the radiator with all 4 140mm fans?

Yes, but you can do that with every other AIO as well. The point of having bigger rad and fans is that you can run it quieter than the 120mm ones at the same temps. Just get the Nepton. You won't regret it.

 

[tuunade988]

Im thinking about getting the Nepton sometime tomorrow, going to go pick it up. DD computers, another computer store that i occasionally go to.. are out of stock, if mwave is out of stock by tomorrow as well, what other coolers do you guys have in mind that you would suggest?


EDIT: as of now im definitely getting the nepton, it looks awesome, and am going to try to use the push pull configuration as well, as i have extra fans.. One other question, what are the adapters that u need to use to connect the case fans directly to the power supply called? i may need to buy some..

 

[Nabarun]

...what are the adapters that u need to use to connect the case fans directly to the power supply called? i may need to buy some..

Don't do that. Why would you do that? Adapters are fan-specific and serve specific purposes. Some reduce speeds and some run the fans @12V, i.e, full speed. At full speeds your fans will be too noisy. Just connect them to your PWM headers and let the motherboard control them. If your concern is lack of enough 4-pin headers, then the thing you want is pwm splitter. Noctua fans come with splitters as well as various speed reducers.

 

[tuunade988]

In that case, do you guys know of any way i can control my fan speeds and monitor them? Besides looking into the bios every minute and buying a fan controller?


I'm currently using a Y splitter that came with my current liquid cpu cooler the h75, for my two front fans.