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Bitcoin & Password Stealer Trojan For Mac Now Available!

Discussion in 'News' started by qubit, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. Haytch

    Haytch New Member

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    Anyone that assumes that the Mac OSX is invulnerable, deserves to own it.
    It's like having unsafe sex constantly, of course you deserve a virus.

    Granted, software based Anti-virus applications are far from perfect, but a warning is all that should be required. At the end of the day, it's still up to the individual to proceed or not. Surfing the internet with no protection is silly. Using the internet unprotected for personal banking and such is idiotic. Some people cant be taught, some people are learning, long term Windows based users have already learnt their lesson.

    Changing lanes whilst driving without indication is silly. Driving at twice+ the speed limit and taking corners like its all a video game is idiotic. some people cant be taught, some people are learning, I REFUSE TO DRIVE ANY OTHER WAY!!!

    Personally, i KNOW that every single internet banking style transaction is recorded, especially your details lol. It's the frame of mind i prefer to take. My risk's are better calculated.

    Steve Jobs should have told the truth before he died. DIED!
     
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    Sorry about my previous rant. I ummm, have no excuse. Guess i just wanted to stir the water. Anyone wanna swim ?
     
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    Runnimg "Any computer"without some form of anti virus is like a menstruating woman swimming in the piranha infested river
    sooner or later your going to be Dinner for something
     
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    I think you might have used up all the hyperbole there.. :)
     
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    Windows targeting malware are born in thousands every day. No need to write an article about a single one unless it caused some nukes to pop. But a trojan the hits the almighty Mac ? That deserves a spot in the hall of fame !
    TAKE THAT MAC !
     
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    except this one is suspiciously like Stuxnet(read:government-backed) and used a zero-day kernel vulnerability. If that's not newsworthy I'm not sure what is.
    Did you know how much of a big deal Stuxnet was?
     
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    Nope, never heard of it. But even if I did I doubt I would have cared as much as I did about this one.
    No really mate, I get what you want to say, yet you should take in account that qubit didn't say the trojan ONLY hit Mac OS systems. So there's nothing wrong in what he's written.
     
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    He's a news editor that is clearly on a crusade. That is the problem.
    What is this, bloody Engadget/Gizmodo?

    and this OSX/Miner-D is obviously OS X only.
     
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    I agree his writing style is somewhat extreme, but personally I like it, though I disagree with some of what he writes, I dismiss it as a personal taste and opinions. But most of his articles are interesting to read. but then again, that my personal opinion.

    The name wasn't from his own imagination btw, that's the name Sophos (or someone else associated) gave it to the trojan.
     
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    I do know the trojan is named by Sophos. I was just pointing out it's obviously OS X only. Any way, to willingly execute something they know is not legitimate, this is the price people pay for pirating software.
     
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    I don't often agree with you, but I do agree that the windows story is big news, the part about some anti mac agenda not so much. Stuxnet was a game changer, it rewrote the book on what a virus can be.

    More info can be found here for those who don't know about it.
     
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  12. qubit

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    Fixed. :D
     
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    To me, this story sounds like TPU is condoning doing malicious things to other people's computers... I mean with a link to the actual trojan and the name of the title and all. My 2 cents. :ohwell:
     
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  14. qubit

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    I totally don't get why you think that? :confused:

    The point of the article is to get Mac users out of their smug self-delusions of superiority regarding security of their platform and wake up to the malware threats, which are increasing as the Mac become more popular.
     
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    So the article is built on a stereotype that Mac users are smug and self-delusional? Okay. In my opinion you should stray away from your opinions and stereotypes in your news posts and just report the news. Isn't that what news/journalism is? This doesn't seem to be it and I don't much care for it. When you inject your opinion into news, others are going to do the same. Malware for anyone on any platform is not a good thing and can cause headaches. This isn't some personal attack or anything I actually think you are doing an oustanding job at finding interesting news. I just think it would be better without the opinion. I mean, you could always add your opinion as a member in a separate post and leave it separate from the news you report. Good day.:)
     
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    Why do you assume all mac users are smug pricks? I am a Mac user and I firmly believe that security by obscurity is a bad policy. I also have a windows 7 gaming rig...

    You need to get off your high horse a bit, open your eyes and check your assumptions, before you start accusing people of what you think is true. Alot of people here want you to get over your smug "what I believe is right" bias that you lace your articles with. Why don't you write a story on that?

    I sounded harsh there, but that is the type of wording that you used in your post to reference other people. It's not right. Think, those of us who use macs AND are smug a$$h*les are douches, that is true - but so are you in sinking to that level. I would hate to see a good writer go to waste because he chose to think like an idiot.
     
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    Not really a terribly nice post and awefully critical, but you have tried to be constructive, so thankyou. :toast:

    I don't assume that all Mac users are smug pricks, you're obviously not and I applaud that. :) However, I've spoken with a lot of Mac users over the years and one of the things I've noticed is how they just love to accuse of PCs of being "infested" with malware and how supposedly secure there Macs are. This was tosh then and is tosh now. I've been using Windows since the Windows 95 era and I've never had a problem with malware. I obviously practice safe computing practices to have ensured this and I've never had more than perhaps three or four infections in all that time, despite all the security holes in the various versions of Windows. Mac users need to start doing this too now your platform is a bit more popular.

    Besides, it's not only me saying this (the misplaced smug attitude). The Sophos article was also making my points about this myth of invulnerability and I felt it was a very good point.

    EDIT

    Just realised, it was yourself who said I think Mac users are smug pricks and I ended up using that term in my post back to you. I actually think calling someone a "prick" is very insulting and only fit for people who really deserve it. I don't think Mac users in denial deserve that at all, so while I think they're smug, I don't think they're pricks.
     
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    Eh.

    It's only a matter of time before malware for macs becomes more and more prevalent to the point where it becomes necessary for macs needing to install antivirus as well but personally I don't think that will matter to the general public depending on the future products of Apple.

    Apple products are vanity items to the many everyday users otherwise we would not get these people who buy an ACER laptop and slap an apple sticker over the logo they received with their iPod.

    Keep looking classy and sleek apple and it's a win/win.
     
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    You got a thanks for the bold bit - what a smashing compliment, thankyou. :respect: and I never take your comments as a personal attack. :) Look, phanbuey just tore a piece out of me (well, tried) and I thanked him too, because the aim of his post was to be constructive.

    This is my natural style of journalism and it's one of those things that's like Marmite, some love it, while some hate it. If I went all unbiased, it would piss off all the readers that like my style (and me too) so I can't win! lol

    The best way to read my articles is with a large dose of irony. :D Believe it or not, there's humour in between the lines. :p
     
  20. PVTCaboose1337

    PVTCaboose1337 Graphical Hacker

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    This is what btarunr does a lot. The cover page story sounds much more professional that way IMO, and not like... gossip.

    Anyway, relating to the story, bitcoin stealing is not all that hard. Copying a 1mb file? Ok easy. Getting it to you somehow, ehh tougher, but FTP makes it easy as you don't have to alert the user to what you are doing, and it is build into most modern OS's.
     
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    Quibit, the article itself was not bad, although you did use your talent as a writer to rip into the general mac user base with the rhetoric a bit, you make a very intelligent point. One that we have all known to be true for quite some time.

    However, the post is what ultimately gave away the "The point of the article is to get Mac users out of their smug self-delusions of superiority..." While you didn't say all you didn't really have to. If that is how you really feel, then I feel bad for you - because you are wasting your time. You will get those people out of their smugness. Your trying to prove to someone who is stupid that they are stupid.

    Its like me telling PC users that them getting viruses is not windows' fault but theirs "well f*)($ im gonna go get a mac becuase they NEVER get viruses." - Er... ok.

    Anyways, good story - sorry if I was a bit harsh, your stuff is really good save for the occasional lapse in objectivity.
     
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    These news stories turn out to be more about qubit than the news he posts.
     
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    qubit Overclocked quantum bit

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    Thanks for the kind words, dude. :)

    I really really don't think all Mac users are like that - nothing is that black and white and it's very stupid to think so. I can't be any clearer than that.

    You have a point about one side trying to convince the other, nicely put. ;)

    Have I ever got my hands dirty using a Mac?

    Oops, I did it again! :eek: j/k Remember that dose of irony...

    10-15 years ago I used a Mac SE at work for simple spreadsheeting. I loved the qute all-in-one shape, it was very well built, ran quite nicely and I liked using it. They had a more modern colour one there too (Performa range perhaps? The memory fades) but I seem to remember the apps on that being quite unstable and had a habit of disappearing from the screen in an insta-crash. :shadedshu Those are the only times I ever used a Mac to any great extent. So, what's my favourite platform? Hint: it's not the PC.

    Back in the 80s and 90s (qubit shows his quantum age) I was into Acorn computers in a big way. They were fantastic and powerful machines for their time, except that unlike Apple, Acorn had a habit of failing in the market :rolleyes: and I eventually went over to the dark side Windows when that platform became too glaringly untenable. However, it was this same company that created the incredibly successful ARM processor! I've programmed the ARM processor myself in assembly language and this baby's a beauty, I can tell you. :rockout:

    EDIT

    Now there's irony! :toast:
     
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    Who really cares other than you?

    He decided to post a news article about macs getting a virus because mactards have their comps shoved so far up their ass and think it and they are more superior to windows users. This is great news because you never hear of anything like this going on for a mac.

    On the other hand, yeah a new virus is released for windows. Big fucking deal. Thats old news. Happens everyday and we all come to expect it. Its not every day, or even once a year you hear something like this happening to a mac.

    Why do people give qubit so much shit for the news he posts anyway? I honestly dont know how he puts up with some of you people.
     
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    I'll tell you why my friend:

    - Because I do this as a spare time hobby, same as you posting on here when you have a minute to spare, therefore I can't cover everything happening in the PC world
    - News posts take a surprisingly long time to write. Especially for a grammar nazi perfectionist like me :laugh:
    - I post what I happen to come across, think will be relevant to TPU and I find interesting. I find articles like this particularly interesting...
    - Sometimes btarunr sneeks up on me and snaps up the article I was thinking of covering. I have told him several times now to use his time machine and look into the future to see what I would have posted, but he won't listen. tsk :shadedshu
    - If you see any news you'd like to see covered, send me a PM. If I publish it, I'll give you credit for the lead in post 2

    And yeah, crash is right, how could I resist a juicy story about a Mac trojan?! :D



    Thanks dude. :toast: I simply put on my best flame-repellant suite and face the angry mob. :laugh: I think it may need an upgrade soon, though. ;)
     

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