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CPU temperature of a new build. Should I worry?

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by Black Panther, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. Black Panther

    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    I've just finished upgrading my brother's pc - essentially rebuilt it since I replaced mobo, a 2Ghz single core AMD, and 1GB RAM with anothor mobo, an AMD 5000 BE and 3GB RAM.

    Well, everything works so far (I'll make a thread with photos later:)).

    I have to reinstall XP so I couldn't run realtemp. I'm installing XP at this precise moment.

    While in the bios I checked the hardware monitor and the cpu temperature was reading at 42 degrees :cry:

    This is only my second build in 2 years... so I don't have much experience.

    Should I give time for the paste to 'settle' and perhaps the temperature would go lower?:ohwell:

    I wasn't planning to OC, at least for now, since the stock speed of the 5000 is good enough for my brother's gaming requirements.
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    try reseating the heatsink and is it the stock amd one?

    if so that could be why. and what type of proc?
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    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    he said a 5KBE (AMD 5000+ black edition)


    i'm no AMD expert of that generation, but iirc they ran warm to hot on the stock coolers BIOS idle (with no power saving features enabled) in the 40's sounds about right, if the CPU fan speed was low on the stock cooler
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    I'm agreeing with this, they are just warm running chips. Nothing really to be worried about.
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    mine idles around 40c with a stock cooler from a Phenom X4(has heatpipes) they run warm. if you can maybe undervolt it a tad that would help give alittle more headroom temp wise. The chips undervolt nicely
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    Oh whew, well knowing that around 40 degrees is normal for the 5000 BE makes me feel better.

    The cooler I have is identical to an AMD stock cooler I guess.
    You can see pictures in this thread.

    I used zalman thermal paste. It was what I had lol, tube is 2 years old but it was sealed never opened.
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    They run warm man. No worries. Here look at the OCCT run I just did about 10 minutes ago...

    [​IMG]

    This is a mild OC with 1.43v
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    that cooler looks to be alittle bigger then the stock cooler that comes with this line of chips. if i can find my stock cooler i will post a pic.
    EDIT:[​IMG]
    here are what stock coolers look like

    EDIT:here are load temps for my 5kBE with a slight overclock,keep in mind my CPU is lapped
    [​IMG]
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    i beleive you have my chip that i sold to pantherx12 it ran 34c idle on a true (overclocked). on stock 40's are ok i guess. buy the way that thing will run up to 3.2 easily with a volt increase.
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    Well, in my build thread which I posted the link in my previous post, the cooler is identical in size to the cooler of his old Sempron. Perhaps the stock coolers of the 5K were smaller? I didn't get the 5K with a cooler so I just bought a 'compatible one' lol.

    Yes Reefer lol I bought the 5K BE from pantherx12 so it's bound to be yours.
    3.2Ghz..... nice.... if only it ran cooler.
    But wait, I said stock speed is enough for my brother's gaming needs.... hmmmmmm.....
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    the 5000+ BE is basicly a 6000+ chip but with a lower multi. with out a voltage increase you can just increase the multi and get it to 2.8 with no extra heat. Dont worry about the heat matey this thing can take it :) aslong as your not going +60c on load you will be ok. Also remember to turn off cool and quiet in bios.
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    I edited my post to show the stock cooler and my temps on the cooler with heatpipes.
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    Meh I reseated the heatsink!!

    After loading Windows, I downloaded hwinfo32 and the idle temp of both cores was 58 degrees!

    I took heatsink out, cleaned off the zalman paste, put some no-name paste which was with the cooler and the temps are now 38 degrees lol.

    It was my fault really, the zalman paste was old. It seemed to be a bit hardish to squeeze out lol...
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    Zoiks I found the real culprit. I think I reseated the cpu in vain now lol...

    Cpu was running fine at 39 degrees idle with hwinfo running.
    I put the side panel, pc still running... and within 5 minutes the temps jumped up to 59/60!!! Idle!

    I removed the side panel again, and within 5 or 7 minutes the temps of both cores dropped to 38/40!!

    Crappy case.
    No in or exhaust fans except that of the PSU.

    There is space where I can put one exhaust fan. But no space for an intake. Unless I mod the case. This is gonna be complicated.

    Here's the screenshot of hwinfo.
    CPU temps are idle all the time.
    The 'current' temps are without the side panel.
    The 'max' temps are with the side panel!

    [​IMG]
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    time to buy a new case :D
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    put the fan in the back of the case... Can you mod a duct so cool air can be drawn into the CPU fresh from outside of the case?

    I put a P4 (the really hot running ones) into a MATX HP case that was running a P4 after replacing the back fan and careful placement of a fan in the front to help draw some cool air in and keep things moving i got it to idle 40c and load around 58c not bad for a case that had no airflow before i got my hands on it :laugh:
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    It looks like that back of that case can take a 120mm fan, put on in. It will draw cool air into the case as well as exhaust hot air out the back.
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    I just got a HAF 922 and its pretty roomy, well built and cheap. 99 bucks. You might want to check it out.
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    the HAF is a nice case. If the HAF is out of price range the Antec 300 is also great
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    If you do go HAF get the 922 not the 932. The 932 is bigger but the 922 is newer and more refined IMO. If you want Ill post pictures. I have a 5850 and it fits perfectly and wire management is great!
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    Thanks guys.
    I installed a rear exhaust fan, and it worked. (The case didn't have an exhaust except for the PSU).
    Now idle temps are around 41 and load around 56, only 2 degrees higher than it had been with the side panel off. Without the rear fan idling had been 58/60. I hadn't dared check load temps!
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    BP get a new case. Those temps are insane at idle. You don't have a computer case. You have a oven.
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    It is kind of amazing what one fan can do in a case, dropping the load temps below what the idle temps were without the fan is a very big improvement.

    Not really considering the cheap aluminum block style cooler, plus the motherboard is likely lowering the CPU fan speeds at idle. The load temps are what matters, always, and 56°C is more than acceptable for a weakish cooler.
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    ^ i agree with newtekie

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