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Hello, I want to ask what's happening with DirectX 12 and which GPUs will have full support because I was thinking of buying a GTX 770 but this DirectX 12 think is stopping me to buy a GPU from 700 series and spend more to GTX 960 which is more expensive but also slower in my country. So what are your suggestions guys?
 

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On the Nvidia side, which is what you are asking about, GPU's back to Fermi are expected to get DX12, so the 770 (Kepler) definately falls in there.

The unknown I think (and I could be wrong), we don't know what features, if any will be cut from DX12 when it releases for Fermi and Kepler.
 
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I believe most will support DX 12.1 with no problem but I might be wrong
 
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On the Nvidia side, which is what you are asking about, GPU's back to Fermi are expected to get DX12, so the 770 (Kepler) definately falls in there.

The unknown I think (and I could be wrong), we don't know what features, if any will be cut from DX12 when it releases for Fermi and Kepler.
http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-gc...-level-111-gcn-10-feature-level-120-gcn-1112/ in this site I saw that only maxwell will support 12.1 and any other GPU will support DirectX 12, Feature level 11 and partial feature level 11.1 which is bad I think.
 
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http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-gc...-level-111-gcn-10-feature-level-120-gcn-1112/ in this site I saw that only maxwell will support 12.1 and any other GPU will support DirectX 12, Feature level 11 and partial feature level 11.1 which is bad I think.

This looks interesting:
The reference DirectX 12 API (Feature Level 11_0) has performance targeted features while the other two level deliver graphical improvement and this is what really matters in improving the games visually. The feature level 12_0 comes with Tiled Resources, Typed UAV Access and Bindless Textures support. Feature Level 12_1 has the Raster Order Views.

AMD has recently confirmed that their current cards can support Feature Level 12_0 at best while NVIDIA’s Maxwell 2.0 architecture has support for Feature Level 12_1. The cards that feature level 12_ 0 support include Radeon HD 7790, Radeon R7 260 (X), Radeon R9 285, Radeon R9 290 (X) and R9 295X2. The older cards such as the ones based on Tahiti, Pitcairn that include all the 7000 series cards (excluding HD 7790), Radeon R9 270 (X) and Radeon R9 280 (X) feature up to Feature Level 11_1 support. Robert Hallock believes that there’s no problem with not feature DirectX Feature Level 12_1 support since features are performance enhancing tools are already available in 11_1 and 12_0 and most games won’t rely on utilization of 12_1.

According to Hallock, the absence of the feature level 12_1 is no problem in principle. So the key for games features are all included in the feature level 11_1 and 12_0. In addition, most games would already geared to the console and thus hardly rely on 12_1.

This however could hurt AMD in the long run against Maxwell (GeForce 900 series) cards that are compliant with DirectX 12 feature level 12_1 and that was proved in their recent GeForce GTX 980 Ti launch. NVIDIA’s older cards, such as Kepler and Fermi come with Feature Level 11_0 support with partial Feature Level 11_1 support.

Not like I plan to go the windows 10/ Direct X 12 way anyway. I dont like it will be subscription based.
 

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I would not consider it bad. 12, I believe, will bring all the improvements for earlier games, and i expect that 770 you want to be obsolete before game makers are making 12.1 games en masse. Just my opinion though. There will be more views throughout the day here, just be patient.
 
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I would not consider it bad. 12, I believe, will bring all the improvements for earlier games, and i expect that 770 you want to be obsolete before game makers are making 12.1 games en masse. Just my opinion though. There will be more views throughout the day here, just be patient.
I'm patient :D
 
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What card do you have now?
 
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So is the 680 or 770 still worth buying?
 
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Um Lets make this 100% clear. DX12 on nvidia side need 900 series to support all of it. The part of DX12 that 770 supports will be the speed improvements, the lower level stuff. All DX11 cards can least do that part of DX12. But not dx12 graphical things.

instead of a gtx770, might want to spend little extra to get 970 or gtx960, 960 should be pretty close performance wise to 770.
 

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So is the 680 or 770 still worth buying?

Well if DX12 is your priority your going for the oldest tech possible. Like rtwjunkie buy the time they are actually games utilizing it we could be on the next gen of cards. I mean DX11 exclusive titles took at least 5yrs to really be using DX11 properly.
 
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Well if DX12 is your priority your going for the oldest tech possible. Like rtwjunkie buy the time they are actually games utilizing it we could be on the next gen of cards. I mean DX11 exclusive titles took at least 5yrs to really be using DX11 properly.
With dx12 speed improvements, i expect more game Dev's will be lookin to least get that in use quick as it would open more for what they can do graphic wise in the game.
 
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Well I'm buying second hand 770 and in my country the 970/960 are a lot more expensive than the 770/680 because there is nobody to sell them second hand :D
 
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Then 770 is worth buying
 
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Thermaltake smart series 430w enough for 770 the cpu is G3258 4.4Ghz after I buy GPU I will spend for i5.
 

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Well if DX12 is your priority your going for the oldest tech possible. Like rtwjunkie buy the time they are actually games utilizing it we could be on the next gen of cards. I mean DX11 exclusive titles took at least 5yrs to really be using DX11 properly.
It should take far less time for dx12 titles to flood the market with the expected adoption rate of Windows 10 to be extremely high.
 
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I'm assuming most devs won't support Dx12.1 for at least a couple years or until AMD makes a 12.1 capable GPU.

I'm hoping to see a fair number of Dx12 games in 2016 though, even though my 7970 has only 2 ACE units and will probably only get half or less as much boost out of it as the newer cards.
 
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I'm assuming most devs won't support Dx12.1 for at least a couple years or until AMD makes a 12.1 capable GPU.
I'm hoping to see a fair number of Dx12 games in 2016 though, even though my 7970 has only 2 ACE units and will probably only get half or less as much boost out of it as the newer cards.
Depends on if features help them, they could add it as option can be turned on and off like did for dx9/dx10/11 for some games.
 

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The best way to explain it is that most DX11 cards get DX12 support - at least at the CPU side of things where the biggest gains are to be had.

Over time true DX12 cards (12.1 or whatever they call it) will come out with extra features, and they'll simply have greater performance than plain 12.0 (DX11) cards in newer titles.
 
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So there is no need to buy expensive card at this time?
 

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