DX11 in World of Warcraft Cataclysm?

[Papahyooie]

Whoops, looks like theramore got pwned.

I just want them to optimize everything, and get rid of those damn polygonal shapes like someone was talking about earlier. really, how hard is it to render a circle? THAT alone would make wow look 100 times better.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Yeah I don't think they will cancel events like that, but I play on a absolute crap server lags/crashes everyday. Prime time WG lags the entire server so it makes raiding nearly impossible. The launch of major patch such as 3.0 was a absolute mess, my server was one of the last to get online. And when it did the server must of crashed 20 times before it was playable and it was still very laggy.

Eh, I know they do a lot of world events yet like Danni mentioned, and a lot of them are cool. But they haven't ever gone back to AQ scale. The other events were fun, but lasted a long time, and didnt ever give me the feeling like I needed to be there at that exact time. People did whatever they had to to be at AQ, the other events were seasonal and cool, but just lacked that epic feeling.

does anyone know the hardware specs of WoW servers? you'd think with their income they'd be able to buy xeon versions of the i7 980X with like 48gb of ram or something lol.

Thats wishful thinking, their servers are stable now, but if it's anything like the game client they have it optimized to run on Juicy Fruit and Rubber Bands.

 

[slyfox2151]

does anyone know the hardware specs of WoW servers? you'd think with their income they'd be able to buy xeon versions of the i7 980X with like 48gb of ram or something lol.

lol um..... no


blizzard server are more like 1000 Core clusters with 256 GB ram ect..... they way beyound your average server

they have many many many CPU's clusterd together for just one Battle group.


so say 1500 CPU's per battle group and there are 8 ^^ now your getting closer to the real numbers.\



here you go,
in 2006 Blizzard bought 1500 MORE servers, each server could contain 1 or more CPU's.
http://kotaku.com/152780/blizzard-buys-1500-new-servers


im going to say that WoW server is very ram intencive wile being very light on the CPU side, in total i can see them reading into the Terabytes of ram, not gigabytes ^^

1500 servers @ 12GB of ram each is over 1.8 Terabyte of ram :O, (note im assuming they are using 12gb of ram per server... it could be more or less.)

 

[1Kurgan1]

Whoops, looks like theramore got pwned.

I just want them to optimize everything, and get rid of those damn polygonal shapes like someone was talking about earlier. really, how hard is it to render a circle? THAT alone would make wow look 100 times better.

Thats the Wetlands, Theramores docks face to the left side if you were looking at it that way. And yep, that was me talking about it, if they just did that it would make the game look so much better, not ground breaking, but at least I could say "hey cavemen chiseled these circles out of stone."

 

[Papahyooie]

Thats the Wetlands, Theramores docks face to the left side if you were looking at it that way. And yep, that was me talking about it, if they just did that it would make the game look so much better, not ground breaking, but at least I could say "hey cavemen chiseled these circles out of stone."

Whoops, looks like Menithil Harbor got pwned.

I just want them to optimize everything, and get rid of those damn polygonal shapes like someone was talking about earlier. really, how hard is it to render a circle? THAT alone would make wow look 100 times better.

Fixed.

 

[v12dock]

They are overhauling everything... Quest in all, The new westfall quest line got leaked... I cant believe how much they changed it.... O and World of Warcraft is now officially 20GB big! And I did read somewhere that there servers are opteron based

 

[1Kurgan1]

Yeah, all of the quests in Azeroth will be significantly different, since it's going through a huge revamp, the Deadmines will have a Heroic mode (finally).

 

[v12dock]

Loch Modan

 

[1Kurgan1]

Interesting that red ridge looks like it's almost exactly the same, figures though, never was much there.

 

[Marineborn]

LOLZ! AOC makes this game look like it belongs on ninetendo, if they implement dx11...maybe they should try 10.....or just anything UGH! jsut plain ugly but if they were to make it look good it would become unplayable for people on most computers and then they would lose customer base

 

[v12dock]

Umm DX11 would have to be enabled so no changes with DX9

 

[slyfox2151]

is there a specified date for the release yet?

 

[v12dock]

This year, I would say fall

 

[1Kurgan1]

I havent looked into it any, but a friend was saying he heard before Blizzcon.

 

[v12dock]

Public beta starts very soon and people think the NDA will be lifted very soon also

 

[DannibusX]

Redridge with a completed bridge. BLASPHEMY!

I may have to pick up the x-pac just to dick around with the new content. I think I'm done raiding though. That shit sucked the life out of me.

 

[a_ump]

i wish we could get a real good preview of the so called dx11 WoW, cause i doubt it's going to be anything spectacular, at least not tesselation to the level of unigine where you can actually tell its there.

 

[DannibusX]

Following Blizzards tradition, everything to do with the expansion will be put into the game in the final patch of the current game. I can't guarantee anything, but those options should be available a month or two before cataclysm goes live. The new talents and professions have been included into the final patch before, as well as any engine upgrades.

You should get your preview.

 

[ctrain]

I got higher fps in Crysis maxed out than I did in dalaran. The engine is obviously held together with string and chewing gum at this point. The game definitely does not perform like it looks like it should. The only thing that saves it is the good artwork.

You'd think for the most popular game on the planet (that basically shits money) they would have reworked a lot of the engine to be more scalable at this point, but I guess:
1. they are worried about breaking something
2. if it ain't broke...
3. simply not worth it to them

DX11 can be a pretty clean break for more modern rendering approaches, but it's probably just designed to inherit the same featureset as the old renderer so it'll just directly plug in and work... and we've seen in the past that naive ports to DX10+ work so well...

 

[v12dock]

The engine heavily relies on the cpu, I go into dalaran with a q9550 @ 3.6 and I get 50-60FPS vs a athlon 64 x2 @ 3.2 getting 10-15FPS with the same video card. And it almost makes sense that they do that considering that 75% of wow players run on onboard video and a processor that much more powerful than there video....

 

[a_ump]

i suppose, i don't see how people play with onboard video....I mean starcraft is one thing but an actualy 3d game. I had an FX 5500 that ran CSS at 1280x1024 just fine on medium, but it barely ran WoW on medium at 1024x768. I can see current integrated doing okay at low-medium. sounds like torture to me tho.

 

[1Kurgan1]

The engine heavily relies on the cpu, I go into dalaran with a q9550 @ 3.6 and I get 50-60FPS vs a athlon 64 x2 @ 3.2 getting 10-15FPS with the same video card. And it almost makes sense that they do that considering that 75% of wow players run on onboard video and a processor that much more powerful than there video....

The problem with that is most home users dont have a 3.6ghz quad core, most of them would have a equivalent that that Athlon you got, or maybe even worse. Either way you slice it, they need to optimize it far better. I got around 15 in dala with a PII 720BE @ 3.6ghz and a 4870x2.

 

[Frick]

I for one looks forward to this game. Not that I'm a huge fan of WoW (I take the Casual Gaming thing to the extremes ), but it is kinda enjoyable sometimes. Cozy in a way.

It'll be interesting what they've done with the lore.

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

LOLZ! AOC makes this game look like it belongs on ninetendo, if they implement dx11...maybe they should try 10.....

Thats OK.

WoW gameplay makes age of conan look like it was made by retarded monkeys in bear suits.

And its the gameplay that makes a game enjoyable.

 

[Delta6326]

I hope its not hard to upgrade my private server i mean i don't have a private server

edit: dont forget that chart up there that 11.5million isn't including the private servers so then think how many people are out there