FPS in Oblivion/Oblivion Tweaking (w/ Optimized Oblivion File from Ketxxx! Pg. 20)

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Never knew that, I always pressed ESC, then SAVE, that's what I always did.

 

[DaMulta]

When your looking at your map hold down left shift and click on the map to set a too go spot. I think its left shift.

 

[Ketxxx]

Weird, are you sure you put the texture files in the Data\Textures folder?
Did you run the file invalidation proceedure with Oblivion's Mod Manager?

To take screenshots you need to enable this function in your .ini file, I don't remember the command line, but it should be very easy to find, then press Prt Sc while being in the game.

yep. copied the entire folder, but in case something fecked up im gonna copy the files manually.

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Are you still trying to get the SS?

 

[i_am_mustang_man]

lol, so i just played oblivion again, and i got 19min fps in the forest near hackdirt (heavily forested) with everything maxed (cept aa ocourse) and no self shadows

i tune down ext shadows and actor and item distance to bout half each and avg 28fps in that area

everywhere else it's over 35 easy

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

So far in the beginning of the game, I haven't really struggled anywhere at all, but then again, that might change. The min. FPS I have gotten so far is 27 I believe.

 

[Ketxxx]

trust, there will be somewhere your fps slows to a crawl not much u can do aout it really. i personally consider myself lucky, i can play with aa and a high level of af with stuff all maxed basically and still get good fps in even the worst areas.

tweak tip: if you turn tree canopy shads on and have other shadows off u cant tell the difference even with grass and self shadows off u still get shadows....just with better fps

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

How does that Shadows thing work out? Is that what you do, Tree Canopy ON and others OFF? Also, if I set AF on in CCC, will that work since there is no AF option for Oblivion?

 

[15th Warlock]

How does that Shadows thing work out? Is that what you do, Tree Canopy ON and others OFF? Also, if I set AF on in CCC, will that work since there is no AF option for Oblivion?

I only turn off shadows on grass, leave all others on and maxed out.

Yes, the AF settings from your CCC will work, don`t you see the difference? It`s quite noticeable.

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

I don't use it in CCC becuase all of my games (besides Oblivion and Company of Heroes) have AF as a setting. It can mess it up if I have both on right?

Also, what about perf. gains/lossses with AF?

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

What's better, 2x AA, but 1024x768, or NO AA, but 1280x1024?

 

[15th Warlock]

What's better, 2x AA, but 1024x768, or NO AA, but 1280x1024?

Dunno, depends on your monitor's max res I think?

I don't use FSAA, I prefer using HDR instead, and nVidia cards cannot use HDR+FSAA in Oblivion. Your card cannot render HDR in Oblivion, but there's a mod for both Ati X800 and nVidia users that makes bloom look "like" HDR, that way you get both effects (FSAA + "Fake HDR") without loosing too much performance. Will post a link once I find it.

 

[15th Warlock]

Some screenies from my system at various points of Cyrodil, at 1024x768, HDR, no FSAA, 8XAF, and max settings (except for shadows on grass):

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Dunno, depends on your monitor's max res I think?

I don't use FSAA, I prefer using HDR instead, and nVidia cards cannot use HDR+FSAA in Oblivion. Your card cannot render HDR in Oblivion, but there's a mod for both Ati X800 and nVidia users that makes bloom look "like" HDR, that way you get both effects (FSAA + "Fake HDR") without loosing too much performance. Will post a link once I find it.

I'm still not sure whether I should use either AA @ 1024x768 or no AA @ 1280x1024. It looks better @ 1280x1024 IMO, since it's a higher res. and it looks more "life-like", and AA 1024x768 looks smooth, but because of a lower resolution, not as "life-like". I haven't really payed too much attention but I get 35+ (going up to 70+) in Cyrodil. Not really sure which one I should use. Also, when AF is turned on, will there be a big perf. drop? I haven't tried yet at all.

So far, everything is either maxed or at 80% of the bar. 1280x1024, 2x AA, 0 AF. Should I turn up the AA to 6x or 8x? What level is yours at?

 

[15th Warlock]

So far, everything is either maxed or at 80% of the bar. 1280x1024, 2x AA, 0 AF. Should I turn up the AA to 6x or 8x? What level is yours at?

No, I don't use FSAA at all, I would have to dissable HDR in order to use it and switch to Bloom lighting...

About the AF performance drop, at 8X I lose about 10% of my 3dMark05 score, dunno how it affects games though, haven't taken benchmarks before and after

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

OK, well for now, I'm keeping it at 1280x1024 no AA. But I'll take pics tomorrow with both res. and check FPS. Busy now, thanks. See ya tomorrow.

 

[overclocker]

is there a demo for this game ?

 

[ktr]

is there a demo for this game ?

nope.

 

[Pinchy]

its not one of those 'types' of games to give demos on

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Warlock, how can I take ScreenShots with Oblivion, and then upload to TPU?

 

[15th Warlock]

Warlock, how can I take ScreenShots with Oblivion, and then upload to TPU?

Look for this oblivion.ini entry:

bAllowScreenShot=

Change its value to 1

Press Prt Sc too take the SS. The SSs will be saved in your Oblivion folder as .bmp files, convert them to .jpg and upload them here:

http://www.techpowerup.org/upload.php

Then just insert the link to image in your post

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

OK, well I'll show the screenshots later, but 1280x1024 with no AA is about the same amount of FPS as 1024x768 with 2x AA. But, the thing is, even if 1024x768 has AA, it still doesn't look as good as 1280x1024 without AA. And 1280x1024 w/ AA it loses about 5 FPS outside near forested areas, and then 128x1024 w/ 2xAA and 4xAF, it loses about 10 FPS outside in Forested areas. So, I guess I'll just stick w/ 1280x1024 w/out AA. But, later, I'll post SS to show, and maybe you'll help me decide better. I'm still adjusting settings and what-not to adjust performance, since I haven't been outside too much, I might change things, maybe if I have some more FPS to spare, I'll turn on more goodies!

 

[15th Warlock]

OK, well I'll show the screenshots later, but 1280x1024 with no AA is about the same amount of FPS as 1024x768 with 2x AA. But, the thing is, even if 1024x768 has AA, it still doesn't look as good as 1280x1024 without AA. And 1280x1024 w/ AA it loses about 5 FPS outside near forested areas, and then 128x1024 w/ 2xAA and 4xAF, it loses about 10 FPS outside in Forested areas. So, I guess I'll just stick w/ 1280x1024 w/out AA. But, later, I'll post SS to show, and maybe you'll help me decide better. I'm still adjusting settings and what-not to adjust performance, since I haven't been outside too much, I might change things, maybe if I have some more FPS to spare, I'll turn on more goodies!

I agree, my monitor's max res is 1280x1024, and at that res I don't feel the need to use AA, as the aliasing is barely noticeable on my monitor

Hope once a fully working "Polygone" mod is released, I can upgrade my res to 1280x1024 without loosing any performance, for the moment I have to play at 10x7 because I found that enabling HDR at any res higher than that is too taxing on my system.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

heres my screenies from oblivion
with hdr,no aa-

no hdr,with aa-

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

I agree, my monitor's max res is 1280x1024, and at that res I don't feel the need to use AA, as the aliasing is barely noticeable on my monitor

Hope once a fully working "Polygone" mod is released, I can upgrade my res to 1280x1024 without loosing any performance, for the moment I have to play at 10x7 because I found that enabling HDR at any res higher than that is too taxing on my system.

Yeah, and I don't have HDR, so a move to 1280x1024 is the same as 1024x768, as long as I sacrifice AA, but I can't tell at 1280x1024.

Tigger, nice screenshots, the HDR looks nice, but I can tell the difference between AA and no AA in those two pics. I can see jagged edges on the castle's top on the HDR pic. I also see that it's about the same FPS on both as well.

Again, for me:
1280x1024 2x AA 4x AF- 25-40 FPS in heavily forested areas
1280x1024 no AA- 35-50 FPS in heavily forested areas
1024x768 2x AA no AF- 35-50 FPS in heavily forested areas

Again, this is just the beginning, and I have barely been outside too much, so I might change my settings, depending on if I need more FPS, or if I have some FPS to spare.