Graphite + water = the future of energy storage

[PopcornMachine]

Some words of concern.

What we have done in the past is adopted energy solutions without considering the waste consequences. Such as batteries and nuclear material. "Gee, this works great. What do we do with this stuff. Oh we'll worry about that later. We're making a lot of money now."

Indefinite lifespan is encouraging, and it seems that a substance made of water and graphite would be fairly biodegradable, but does anyone know for sure.

More importantly, what will those running the Uranium/Nuclear industry think about this? My guess is they will do everything in their power to stop it, and they have the power to do so. We live in a capitalist world where what is best for the powerful rich is paramount.

 

[W1zzard]

More importantly, what will those running the Uranium/Nuclear industry think about this?

this technology does not have to do anything with energy "production". it is for storage and transport.

power plants will put power into the grid, you connect your car to the grid and put their power into your car

 

[PopcornMachine]

this technology does not have to do anything with energy "production". it is for storage and transport.

power plants will put power into the grid, you connect your car to the grid and put their power into your car

I guess I was thinking of this type of technology as answer to those who say solar energy won't work because there is no where to store it.

That could then mean a change in types of production.

 

[Drone]

I guess I was thinking of this type of technology as answer to those who say solar energy won't work because there is no where to store it.

That could then mean a change in types of production.

Wrong. Solar energy can be stored. Hell, even chemical reaction energy can be stored.

 

[PopcornMachine]

Wrong. Solar energy can be stored. Hell, even chemical reaction energy can be stored.

Yeah, I know. But that's what people always tell me anyway. It's as if they don't want solar energy to work.

If there is a way to store it, then why aren't we using it?

 

[mrw1986]

The company I work for has been researching nano technology for some time and a big part of what we research is carbon nanotubes.

I wish I could answer some questions, I'm just simply an IT Specialist there >.<

I can tell you I have seen some of the stuff they have produced first hand...it's awesome...I just can't go in to detail.

 

[Damn_Smooth]

The company I work for has been researching nano technology for some time and a big part of what we research is carbon nanotubes.

I wish I could answer some questions, I'm just simply an IT Specialist there >.<

I can tell you I have seen some of the stuff they have produced first hand...it's awesome...I just can't go in to detail.

Tease. :shadedshu

 

[mrw1986]

tease. :shadedshu

 

[Damn_Smooth]

I guess I can't blame you. It's not worth being unemployed to say things on the internet.

 

[mrw1986]

I guess I can't blame you. It's not worth being unemployed to say things on the internet.

Heh, exactly Took me too long to find this job!

 

[Drone]

Yeah, I know. But that's what people always tell me anyway. It's as if they don't want solar energy to work.

If there is a way to store it, then why aren't we using it?

Nice question. People need to fund these studies because it's important. Plus solar energy idea is as old as dirt.

Here's a nice way to store solar power:

An unprecedented process allows the sun's energy to be used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen gases. Later, the oxygen and hydrogen may be recombined inside a fuel cell, creating carbon-free electricity to power your house or your electric car, day or night.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/oxygen-0731.html

Liquid batteries can also store solar energy:

http://www.physorg.com/news155569564.html

 

[Mussels]

Yeah, I know. But that's what people always tell me anyway. It's as if they don't want solar energy to work.

If there is a way to store it, then why aren't we using it?

let me phrase it another way: are we storing nuclear energy? hydroelectric? wind turbine?


none of the major energy producers store it long term, it doesnt work that way. solar can give us power whenever it has sunlight, the problem is that its no good as a permanent power source since we have things called night time and clouds.

 

[PopcornMachine]

let me phrase it another way: are we storing nuclear energy? hydroelectric? wind turbine?


none of the major energy producers store it long term, it doesnt work that way. solar can give us power whenever it has sunlight, the problem is that its no good as a permanent power source since we have things called night time and clouds.

Shocking. Night and clouds. Never heard of them.

So, back to my point about this kind of technology, which the original article states

A combination of two ordinary materials – graphite and water – could produce energy storage systems that perform on par with lithium ion batteries, but recharge in a matter of seconds and have an almost indefinite lifespan.

could change the idea that solar is no good because it can't be stored. Read the line again that states indefinite lifespan.

But I'm sure we're all better off will nuclear power plants the waste they produce. Uranium miners sure think so.

 

[Steevo]

Solar as a heat condensed source can be stored for continued energy output. Much the same way the earth stores heat so we don't freeze at night.

Geo power, solar, wind and other sources can be harnessed efficiently, except people need to get out of the way with their goddamn solar panels. 200W per square meter of sunlight in the desert and heat conversion is much more efficient than expensive solar panels, and they use the same end as do coal and other plants, steam turbine that are achieving more efficiency.


Solar panels are for your camper, a remote low powered non-critical system, a watch or calculator. Not to power your home. We have infastructure for power distribution, adding pollution to another country to manufacture, transport, install, maintain and replace is NOT the end result we need.

 

[Platibus]

I read in an article that chips made with graphene don't ever get hot, because the generated heat is immediatly dissipated. Now that's something I want to see. I just hope I can make enough money when I start working to be an enthusiast like most of you are. \m/

 

[GSquadron]

you need a better spell and grammer + wtf you on about checker thats damn near sig worthy again, any molecule can afaik be turned into an ion are you on about iron?? ion = charged particle

im a mass spec tech so that i know

If u have a better knowledge of what happens on earth, than u know that cars can use water instead of diesel.
But all know that if u use water.... game over for u.

Same thing for this.

 

[Thatguy]

this is the tech electric cars are waiting for.

Generate the power first, then we can talk about the cars becoming electirc.

 

[Peter1986C]

Thatguy, this is a moment at which I completely agree with you. The electrical vehicle is not better than current burning engine based transport, as long as the electricity we use is made almost entirely with nuclear and fossil fuels.

 

[Thatguy]

Thatguy, this is a moment at which I completely agree with you. The electrical vehicle is not better than current burning engine based transport, as long as the electricity we use is made almost entirely with nuclear and fossil fuels.

we need to get more efficinecy out of the fuels.

 

[Peter1986C]

BTW, a major supermarkets owning company in the Netherlands mixes that (methane from organic source, which is literally bullshit) with the diesel used for their supply trucks. Which is ATM a better solution than going electric.

 

[Thatguy]

BTW, a major supermarkets owning company in the Netherlands mixes that (methane from organic source, which is literally bullshit) with the diesel used for their supply trucks. Which is ATM a better solution than going electric.

Sounds like A-Hold corporation ?

 

[Peter1986C]

No, actually their major concurrent in the Netherlands (Jumbo supermarkets).

 

[bostonbuddy]

If cars ever go electric large scale in the US we'll have to turn to nuclear, I vote for making one of those shitty states like OK one giant nuclear facility that can power the country.

 

[Peter1986C]

With Death Valley as a location for an extra-well "shielded" subterranean nuclear waste storage bunker?
I think you may be right due to the extreme electrical power demands e-cars may generate in the US, though I sincerely hope there is a better solution by the time.

Edit: Oklahoma appeared to be to far away from DV for quick and safe transport. One would need a plane at that range to carry the load (Silly question: would such a plane act like a nuke when crash landing?).

 

[bostonbuddy]

maybe they can just make a damn working fusion reactor, waste problem solved.