Hate to say it

[mlupple]

Madclown, your PC is well good enough to run Vista. I guarantee you will see no performance loss.

 

[Hayder_Master]

i agree , try xp64 to make 4g ram work

 

[psyko12]

From xp x64 to vista x64 with old rig here and sailing along smoothly... Tweaked some services that I don't use from here and there and it's all good! Gaming same as Xp x64 was with SP1... Although I tried Vista b4 without SP1, when it 1st came out.. It's good, solid and all, been running compy since yesterday.. Downloading stuff and all is well.. No probs here... I'd say go for it...

 

[Darknova]

i agree , try xp64 to make 4g ram work

Use Vista, the problem with XP x64 is compatibility. Most programs see it as Server 2003, and we all know how many program support Server 2003. Plus I had to use Vista x64 drivers to get half my stuff to work, or to get the drivers up to date.

Vista works, it works well, and it looks good. At the moment I see no reason to go back to XP x64, the hassle just isn't worth it.

 

[johnspack]

Well, I use both, but I find xp64 to be more compatible with things than vista64. I have thrown everything at xp64 and it runs.. faster and better than xp32. Never had a driver issue. Vista64 has its strengths as well but I find it needs so many tweaks to make it purr, and it still throws glitches at me I have to keep solving. If I were you I'd dual boot, vista kinda requires a break in time if you're an old xp user like me.....

 

[imperialreign]

Use Vista, the problem with XP x64 is compatibility. Most programs see it as Server 2003, and we all know how many program support Server 2003. Plus I had to use Vista x64 drivers to get half my stuff to work, or to get the drivers up to date.

Vista works, it works well, and it looks good. At the moment I see no reason to go back to XP x64, the hassle just isn't worth it.

agreed - XP64b has a ton of compatibility issues at times. Although, XP 32b can use 3GB of MEM, but some performance might suffer. It depends on the application at times. XP isn't very streamlined with it's memory usage.


TBH, though, you don't need Vista64 to use 4GB of MEM. Vista32 will recognize and use it. I've seen Vista32 running with 8GB installed, and it performed quite nice when you have that much buffer space for the kernel bloat.

I've got both Vista Home Premium in 32b and 64b varieties here - if you purchase the 32b version, it comes with a card that will allow you to get the 64b upgrade disk from MS for a very nominal fee (IIRC, it was $10).

 

[Wile E]

agreed - XP64b has a ton of compatibility issues at times. Although, XP 32b can use 3GB of MEM, but some performance might suffer. It depends on the application at times. XP isn't very streamlined with it's memory usage.


TBH, though, you don't need Vista64 to use 4GB of MEM. Vista32 will recognize and use it. I've seen Vista32 running with 8GB installed, and it performed quite nice when you have that much buffer space for the kernel bloat.

I've got both Vista Home Premium in 32b and 64b varieties here - if you purchase the 32b version, it comes with a card that will allow you to get the 64b upgrade disk from MS for a very nominal fee (IIRC, it was $10).

No, Vista 32 can see the ram, but it still can't address it properly. x64 is the only way to get large amounts of ram to work properly.

 

[CrackerJack]

ONLY x64 bit OS can physical use and see all 4Gb+. No matter if it's Vista or XP. Vista x32 can some times see 4gb. But it can't use it, Not even if you had 8gb. It just isn't designed to read it. And plus there's only about handfull of games that will use 4gb. Crysis is one, but it doesn't handle right. Like it should. The game was design bad anyway. And theres only maybe, just maybe 25-35 programs that work to the full about in x64.


But your best bet is Vista x64. It has better driver and software support compared to XP x64

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

lol theres always 1

Vista runs just as smooth for me as XP ever did ,if yours doesnt then tbh id look at how your system is setup.

Now there are 2.

Yes you can use 4Gb of Ram...Unfortunately take a look at your page file when you are done installing Vista...It uses literally 3x as much pagefile. XP SP3 runs optimized at 186Mbs on my RIG. Installing Vista Ultimate and optimized still uses 540Mbs...Now if you start using all the pretty features you will see that number climb even higher.

Other then DX10 there is no reason to use Vista. IMO.

 

[Mussels]

Other then DX10 there is no reason to use Vista. IMO.

stability, the enhanced search features, the enchanced network features, higher security/less virus risk.

they are personal preference, so i dont care if people dont go for it... but that extra ram is being put to good use.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

I would say Vista Ultimate and XP SP3 are = in stability.

Search Features are nice.

Enhanced network features. I saw no gain here. ping times were exactly the same, page load was the same, and bandwidth across the LAN was the same.

I feel the extra security is totally a waste.

3.5Gbs of ram is put to use due to page file. XP can use 3.5Gbs of RAM.

In the end..If you like it and it works for you great. I am one of those people that kills every process that isn't needed just because.

 

[Mussels]

I would say Vista Ultimate and XP SP3 are = in stability.

Search Features are nice.

Enhanced network features. I saw no gain here. ping times were exactly the same, page load was the same, and bandwidth across the LAN was the same.

I feel the extra security is totally a waste.

3.5Gbs of ram is put to use due to page file. XP can use 3.5Gbs of RAM.

In the end..If you like it and it works for you great. I am one of those people that kills every process that isn't needed just because.

see now i can try and convince you that vista is better, but i cant ARGUE with you. you've used logic and decided its not for you, as opposed to irrational beliefs.

On the networking, its more reliable - theres a resume feature for file transfers if the destination is full (and it warns you BEFORE it starts copying if there isnt enough space), and you can resume if say, some tard unplugs your ethernet cable at a lan.
The search features also work a lot better over windows file shares too. Its improved, its not drastically faster or 200% superior.

 

[Pinchy]

you can resume if say, some tard unplugs your ethernet cable at a lan.

Yeah man and if a file stuffs up.....it gives you options to skip it or try again, as opposed to just canceling the whole transfer

I feel the extra security is totally a waste.

Its not the fact that Vista is secure, its the fact that XP is insecure. I mean, I find it pretty weak that a limited account can log in on safe mode and delete the admin password . Ive just made myself an admin on my local machine @ work (XP SP2)....and now I can control the computer lol...


With the pagefile...sure it uses a lot, but RAM is cheap. when you can pick up a gig of RAM for like 20 bucks....



As Mussels said its diff for everyone. Some people may not use passwords so security doesn't mean much. Some people dont even have a network to worry about....its just up to the user.

In the end..If you like it and it works for you great. I am one of those people that kills every process that isn't needed just because.

Yep see if you like your RAM not being used thats fair enough, dont go near vista lol.

Personally I turn off pagefile on Vista ult 64 (dont really care if my RAM is being used, I mean thats why I bought it, to be used )...only "vista" feature I turn off is the sidebar .

 

[kyle2020]

Vista is nothing to be worried about upgrading to - id say 98% of compatability issues have been solved (2% owed to creative, but thank god for daniel_k). People who moan and go on about how vista sucks and what not clearly either are going with the rest of the crowd or just havent used it. I went from XP M.Center to Vista home premium 32 bit and i cant imagine using XP again - Vista looks better, is more stable, as many have said boots and loads things faster, and overall is a better OS.

I downloaded the 64 bit version of Vista Ultimate to check compatability, and found that the only thing that did not work was my USB wireless device. I dont have another, so i reinstalled 32 bit home premium. That said, when i go intel for my Q6600, ill purchase the newer model of my USB stick and also get another 2GB of RAM, along with a legitimate version of either 64 bit home premium or ultimate. Basically as everything progresses, you cant stay true to an older thing for too long, because the benefits of the newer item just outweigh old familiar.

Basically, ignore all the XP diehards, go for the 64 bit vista and i promise you, you will not look back.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Basically as everything progresses, you cant stay true to an older thing for too long, because the benefits of the newer item just outweigh old familiar.

True in tech as is it is with marriage. Haha j/k

The next version of windows is not far out. I plan on skipping Vista much like I did millenium edition and most of 2000. I think m$ is aware that the reception to vista has been less then wonderful. I do think M$ has learned a lot from our resistance to keep xp alive. A clear case of buyer power. I expect the next version of windows will be worth the upgrade.

 

[Triprift]

Hope for u guys sake it is if its a huge dissapointment ya might end up with Vista after all

 

[Pinchy]

Hope for u guys sake it is if its a huge dissapointment ya might end up with Vista after all

LOL.

It would be funnnnny to see that happen....but I reckon even if its bad, Vista haters will be like "well...its better than Vista!!!" (and then their computer implodes )

 

[MadClown]

I unplugged my ethernet cable while playing online and plugged it back in and i wasnt dissconnected, prolly cause i have a static ip, and xp dosent use 3.5GB, it uses 3.25GB

Well my bday is today so i might get some cash and therefore resulting in me being able to buy a new os.

 

[eidairaman1]

Next Machine will have 64bit and this one will be for 32 and 16bit apps.

 

[Braveheart]

vista 64 pwns.

 

[Wile E]

Vista is nothing to be worried about upgrading to - id say 98% of compatability issues have been solved (2% owed to creative, but thank god for daniel_k). People who moan and go on about how vista sucks and what not clearly either are going with the rest of the crowd or just havent used it. I went from XP M.Center to Vista home premium 32 bit and i cant imagine using XP again - Vista looks better, is more stable, as many have said boots and loads things faster, and overall is a better OS.

I downloaded the 64 bit version of Vista Ultimate to check compatability, and found that the only thing that did not work was my USB wireless device. I dont have another, so i reinstalled 32 bit home premium. That said, when i go intel for my Q6600, ill purchase the newer model of my USB stick and also get another 2GB of RAM, along with a legitimate version of either 64 bit home premium or ultimate. Basically as everything progresses, you cant stay true to an older thing for too long, because the benefits of the newer item just outweigh old familiar.

Basically, ignore all the XP diehards, go for the 64 bit vista and i promise you, you will not look back.

If your version of 32bit Home Premium is legit, you do not need to buy x64. Your key will work on x64, no problems. I used my legit OEM Home Premium 32 bit key to install a retail version of Home Premium x64 on this rig.

 

[Pinchy]

I unplugged my ethernet cable while playing online and plugged it back in and i wasnt dissconnected, prolly cause i have a static ip, and xp dosent use 3.5GB, it uses 3.25GB.

Yer playing online depends on the game though. I know with CS (whether vista or XP) ir gives it four connection retries if it cant find a connection before it times you out....so if you were to plug it out and in it would reconnect you (unless 4 retries went).

Thats diff to file sharing though. If XP gets an error whilst transferring a file on a network (or even like from HD to HD) .. it will totally clonk out and make u restart the transfer