qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
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System Name | Quantumville™ |
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Processor | Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz |
Motherboard | Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D14 |
Memory | 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz) |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible) |
Case | Cooler Master HAF 922 |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1600i |
Mouse | Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow |
Keyboard | Yes |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |
I can't seem to find a straight answer to these questions anywhere and it's putting me off going for the upgrade.
If I upgrade, will my old W7 & W8 keys no longer activate my older OSes? It doesn't mention this either way in the official FAQ. If it invalidates the old key, then it's hardly a free upgrade and is actually a part exchange so they should make this clear as it's a critical point and forms a contract between the user and Microsoft. There's a hint of this in the FAQ answer that you have one month to revert to the old OS.
Similarly, does Microsoft actually explicitely give you a W10 key or do I have to use the Keyfinder utility?
The one thing that does seem clear however, is that regardless of whether your old OS is OEM or retail, the upgrade to W10 is OEM and hence tied to the motherboard, which is quite restrictive if the original was retail. This is also a sneeky way to stop it from being a perpetual licence too, as it dies when the hardware dies or is replaced.
Imagine your mobo dying a week after installing it. You replace it with a new mobo and internet activation of course fails. Do you even get the option of a phone activation? If you do, are Microsoft likely to block it anyway?
Note that I am actually running the RTM version of W10 in VMWare Player, since it came down free on Windows Update at the end of the Insider program. Interestingly, it has an option to let me continue being an Insider or not. If I remain an Insider then I guess it still does the keylogging, which would make it best to opt out of it. Again, I haven't seen anything at all about this. Anyone know?
This is what I see now if I go into settings and Windows Update, Advanced options. Note the Stop Insider builds button.
If I upgrade, will my old W7 & W8 keys no longer activate my older OSes? It doesn't mention this either way in the official FAQ. If it invalidates the old key, then it's hardly a free upgrade and is actually a part exchange so they should make this clear as it's a critical point and forms a contract between the user and Microsoft. There's a hint of this in the FAQ answer that you have one month to revert to the old OS.
Similarly, does Microsoft actually explicitely give you a W10 key or do I have to use the Keyfinder utility?
The one thing that does seem clear however, is that regardless of whether your old OS is OEM or retail, the upgrade to W10 is OEM and hence tied to the motherboard, which is quite restrictive if the original was retail. This is also a sneeky way to stop it from being a perpetual licence too, as it dies when the hardware dies or is replaced.
Imagine your mobo dying a week after installing it. You replace it with a new mobo and internet activation of course fails. Do you even get the option of a phone activation? If you do, are Microsoft likely to block it anyway?
Note that I am actually running the RTM version of W10 in VMWare Player, since it came down free on Windows Update at the end of the Insider program. Interestingly, it has an option to let me continue being an Insider or not. If I remain an Insider then I guess it still does the keylogging, which would make it best to opt out of it. Again, I haven't seen anything at all about this. Anyone know?
This is what I see now if I go into settings and Windows Update, Advanced options. Note the Stop Insider builds button.