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Discussion in 'Audio, Video & Home Theater' started by Mussels, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch New Member

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    I have the Asus Xonar DX and no optical out on the motherboard. Should i use the digital out of the DX or ana if i buy the Edifier S730 (Digital 2.1 speakers!)

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    use analog out on the DX.
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    Rockfella.killswitch New Member

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    Does this mean if i connect digital speakers using toslink from the DX i'll get inferior sound?
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    yeah not to mention your sound card won't be doing much other than passing the audio to the Edifier S730.

    a mini-jack (3.5mm) to RCA cable should do it. connect it to the Front jack on the DX if I remember.
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    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    not so much that - more that using digital makes your sound cards analogue redundant.

    cheap onboard sounds exactly the same as high end audio, through digital connections.
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    this is the cable you need

    [​IMG]

    connect the black end to the Front jack on the DX and the Red and White ends to the Edifier S730 sub.
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    Rockfella.killswitch New Member

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    Oh.. so what's the use of buying a dedicated sound card with digital out like the DX? I want to use the "Dolby Digital Live" of the DX which i've not been able to use yet. I think i can only use it with dogotal speakers?
    I got this cable. So analogue connection will make use of the sound card?
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    your sound card can process music a lot better than those speakers. you don't have 5.1 speakers so Dolby Digital Live doesn't matter.

    yes.
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    Then what speakers would truly utilize the full potential of my DX?
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    yes. in stereo.

    Dolby Digital Live is used for sending 5.1 to a receiver with speakers like this.

    [​IMG]
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    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    the most expensive ones in the world, of course.


    what we're saying is: you bought an expensive sound card for its better analogue outputs. at least try them, before going digital (since digital makes the expensive card completely redundant)


    while digital will be a pure, unaltered signal, the analogue may sound better to you.
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    I am ruling out speakers completely. I'll go for this maybe...

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    analog is going to sound better because the DAC section inside the Edifier S730 was probably an afterthought.
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    Rockfella.killswitch New Member

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    So analog speakers can utilize dx's dac?
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    what do you mean? all speakers are analog.
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    I mean a good set of 2.1 speakers that'll do justice to my sound card :p
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    I have a Xonar DX and I have to say that if you have a decent (£500+) system you would benefit from a decent DAC. I went for a new one, Micromedia MyDac, but you can get something Cambridge Audio for example for maybe £100, and it should beat the crap out of most sound cards. You deserve it!
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    the sound card isn't that good :p
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    I've seen optical outputs on the back of many TVs. What exactly is the point of it?
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    HDMI passes optical to TV, then TV optical-out to stereo for audio. Most TV's only support 2-channel SPDIF though. It's more meant for those that have receivers that don't do HDMI, and video devices that don't offer coaxial audio output.

    Nice necro, BTW> :roll:
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    Question for you all. My file server has a ALC892 audio chip, so I can split the communication devices and speakers to separate channels. My main rig also has the ALC892, can I basically gaurentee that I will be able to split them into separate channels as well? If So I might just sell my HT Omega Striker sound card.
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    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    i'm really not understanding the question. please try asking again, in a different way.
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    Since the title to this thread was "Let's talk pc-audio", I'd like to remark on what I've found so far in my search for better sound via my PC.

    I'm a retiree and an avid PC gamer. For years I was quite happy with the very inexpensive Logitech 5.1 powered speaker system. Then, after upgrading to a 680ftw GPU, I decided that I missed my past audio obsessions, so I started shopping. First, I got lucky twice on the first day, finding a refurbished Sony 7.1ch receiver, and a Polk Audio 12", 300watt powered subwoofer, both of them for $300 delivered-and an added 3year warrantee on the receiver included! Then I hit Craigslist looking for used speakers and again got very lucky. The ad was for a pair of vintage KEF dual-8"driver mini-towers. When I arrived, I found out that the gentleman was an amateur speaker repair guy, and regularly sold repaired speakers. So, I left his house with the pair of KEFs and a pair of B&W 601 se's for $400 total. So, I'm now sitting in front of both sets sitting on my very large desktop, and all for less than $800 for cables, speaker wire,etc.

    What is curious, to me anyway, is that I couldn't find much of anyone who replaced their sound card/PC speakers with a receiver/bookshelf speakers. And old receiver will work, as long as you're happy with stereo only. This Sony is HDMI-capable, but since I'm only interested in stereo, SPDIF works fine, as would RCA jacks.

    Another thing I learned was that today's digital receivers pretty much all have great sound, because they all use the same circuit boards. The price differences between my $150 refurb.($230 regular price) and a $600 Denon or Yamaha or...is the added features for HT use, primarily. Some of the higher-end receivers/amplifiers have separate mono-amps for each channel, so upping the price, but from what I've read at many HT/music enthusiast websites, you'd be hard-pressed to actually hear the difference. So, rather than spending more for a receiver when the cheaper one has the features you want, I would heartily recommend you look at better speakers, because they definitely do NOT sound the same. hehe.

    Here's a pic of the setup. Sub and receiver under the desk. Tuneage and gaming.jpg
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    qubit Overclocked quantum bit

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    @trog69 Those are some great speakers you've got there. I recommend that you try a Creative X-Fi sound card with them if possible, as the sound is just amazing. I'm talking about without any post-processing effects, too. They're discontinued now, but if you can find a decent one on Amazon or eBay they're well worth it.

    Don't pay over the odds for it though (should be around $50-$80) and don't fall for one of the cheap Creatives that are labelled X-Fi, but don't actually use the X-Fi chipset.

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