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Running on a half multiplier is bad. Its just like running your memory on a divider. It leaves your CPU tapping its foot while your memory is trying to catch up. Here is why.

When you run your memory 1:1 it works like this:

FSB x Multi = CPU Speed and CPU Speed / Multi = Ram Speed (1:1)

When you run your memory on a divider it works like this:

FSB x Multi = CPU Speed and (CPU Speed / Multi) / Memory Divider = Memory Speed (Not 1:1, leaves your CPU tapping its foot.)

When running your CPU on a half multiplier it works like this, similar to a memory divider. For some reason, when dividing the CPU Speed by the Multi to get the memory speed, it goes up to the next highest multi. The half multi doesnt come into effect on your memory.

FSB x Multi = CPU Speed and (CPU Speed / Multi + .5) = Memory Speed (Not 1:1, leaves your CPU tapping its foot. It is not 1:1 because the memory will end up not running at the same speed as your FSB, as you can see from your CPU-Z screenshot.

Your best bet IMO would be to find the highest overclock that you can run your memory 1:1 with (not on a divider). That would mean that you will be FSB limited, since it looks like your memory cant handle over about 220mhz (just a guess). So, 220 x What multi? 12x. 12x will give you the highest CPU speed you can get. So, 12 x 220, or the highest you can run your memory at, will give you the greatest OC IMO. 12 x 220 will give you a speed of only 2640, but you can always push it farther by loosening your memory timings. Memory is obviously the thing that is holding back your overclock. Honestly, I would buy new memory. ;) Running at at 11x would force you to run on a memory divider because of the higher FSB, and running it at 11.5x causes divider like issues. In your case you want to keep the FSB as low as possible, and your multiplier as high as possible, so you can run your memory 1:1. Once you get it working at 12 x 220, you can push it farther... try adding 2 mhz to the fsb until it becomes unstable from there. I noticed in all of these overclocks you STILL running your memory on a divider! BAD BAD BAD! :( Of course, if you had decent memory, you wouldnt be held back with all of these memory problems, and you could set your multiplier/fsb to whatever you desire and overclock the hell out of that beast!
 
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DAMMIT!

I had to repost, uploaded wrong image...

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POGE said:
Running on a half multiplier is bad. Its just like running your memory on a divider. It leaves your CPU tapping its foot while your memory is trying to catch up. Here is why.

Yea, but I tried the 12x multiplier x whatever earlier, & got WORSE ScienceMark 2.0 scores, & it would not consistently run it stable either that way... plus, my RAM was only 185mhz of 200 possible...

Doesn't this matter?

POGE said:
Your best bet IMO would be to find the highest overclock that you can run your memory 1:1 with (not on a divider). That would mean that you will be FSB limited, since it looks like your memory cant handle over about 220mhz (just a guess). So, 220 x What multi? 12x. 12x will give you the highest CPU speed you can get. So, 12 x 220, or the highest you can run your memory at, will give you the greatest OC IMO. 12 x 220 will give you a speed of only 2640, but you can always push it farther by loosening your memory timings.

I got ya, understood... but, I am trying to "balance" the gain on CPU, & memory (to be as close to stock DDR-400 rating of 200mhz as is possible, & to be able to complete the ScienceMark 2.0 tests... good test of stability, believe-it-or-not (somewhat of a long test)).

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Memory is obviously the thing that is holding back your overclock. Honestly, I would buy new memory. ;)

Agreed 110%, iirc, we came to that conclusion LONG ago already (yourself & Ketxxx while assisting me here)... but, for now, I have to "make do" w/ what I have in the way of memory!

(Good learning experience too imo)

Here is what I have "settled on", both CPU o/c wise & memory-wise (stable, & allows me to finish & run ScienceMark 2.0 to completion, & highest score yet in it):

CPU-z 1.35 CPU (showing ~353mhz SOLID/STABLE overdriven gain over stock speed 2400mhz)



&

CPU-z 1.35 RAM overdriven gain (getting ~197mhz of 200mhz possible on DDR-400 via DDR3 dividers used)



ScienceMark 2.0 score (best yet @ 1401++, & stable):



:)

* There she be, best I can do... even w/ a 100F heatwave ambient temps outside today!

APK

P.S.=> Again: Trying for the multiplier @ 12x lent to instability & low (184.5mhz/200mhz possible DDR-400 RAM clock) RAM scores - this seems to give me a balance, & stability thusfar... apk
 
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I just uninstalled ScienceMark, will have to download again as I think I got 1426!!!! something to be said for 2 x 512KB Cache!!!!
 

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POGE said:
FSB x Multi = CPU Speed and (CPU Speed / Multi + .5) = Memory Speed (Not 1:1, leaves your CPU tapping its foot. It is not 1:1 because the memory will end up not running at the same speed as your FSB, as you can see from your CPU-Z screenshot.

I was wondering if this just points out ineffiecient behaviour or some potential danger to the systems circuitry? There are numerous things that we use daily that sacrifice efficency for performance. What would be the consequences of letting the CPU "tap its foot", so to speak, once in a while?

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I just uninstalled ScienceMark, will have to download again as I think I got 1426!!!! something to be said for 2 x 512KB Cache!!!!

No, you have a really GOOD overclock (your sig says 2800mhz, assuming that is stable here)...

You'll find that memory bandwidth matters on it, & what I've noted thusfar in testing? You gain w/ a FASTER "FSB" setup more, than you do with a larger multiplier & lower FSB's!

(Sciencemark 2.0's proven that much to me thusfar, @ least)

APK

P.S.=> It's going to vary by machine, so nobody's going to have an "all in one" perfect one size fits all formula for everyone... & when your system's in "danger" imo, is when you can't complete a long running test like ScienceMark 2.0, or others like Prime/SuperPrime, etc. & your temps start "skyrocketing"... @ 12x mult. by 231mhz FSB, I was pushing 50++ C, too hot by comparison to now @ 47C!

bbriand said:
I was wondering if this just points out ineffiecient behaviour or some potential danger to the systems circuitry? There are numerous things that we use daily that sacrifice efficency for performance. What would be the consequences of letting the CPU "tap its foot", so to speak, once in a while?

Bill

Based on observation so far?

I found out I perform LESS WELL & LESS STABLE when using that higher multiplier of 12x + 231mhz FSB, vs. 11.5x multiplier + 239mhz FSB here!

(I also get closer to the 200mhz rating of speed of my DDR-400 RAM this way as well 197/200mhz & STABLE - & can complete the ScienceMark 2.0 test in the last photo setup I am using & running 47C as temps)...

Guys, I truly THINK this is "my perfect mark"... the benchmark's showing me that much imo @ least... apk
 
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Yes it is stable, I can boot to windows @ 2870 and play Oblivion/CSS/Dod @ 2840 but it will not complete more than 7 minutes of Prime so have dropped it to a nice round figure! its Prime stable at that (well for 2 and a half hours it was).

The CPU is going at the weekend in any case, I got it on a special offer for £160 7 weeks ago and I have been offered £200 for it. I am just going to get a 3800 or 4000 to last me to christmas, will pocket the change (I can get a 3800 Venice for under £70!), E Bay my Mobo, CPU and Ram at the end of the year and with my Christmas pressie will get a Conroe/Mobo/DDR2 when the prices have fallen a bit. May get really extravigant and get an SLi Mobo and buy another 7900 for Sli....but thats a long shot, will have to start sweet talking the wife!
 

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Cant you atleast see how much you score with your max oc with your mem 1:1 and your multi at 12x?
 

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POGE said:
Cant you atleast see how much you score with your max oc with your mem 1:1 and your multi at 12x?

I must admit, I really do not like half multipliers especially!
 

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POGE said:
Cant you atleast see how much you score with your max oc with your mem 1:1 and your multi at 12x?

I did but didn't post it, because it was unable to complete the ScienceMark 2.0 test period!

(& 12x multiplier BY 250mhz FSB was showing HUGE gains, CPU-wise, but only ~ 185mhz/200mhz possible on my RAM)...

I apparently can get a lot better than THAT rating of the mhz of my RAM doing the 11.5x multiplier by 239mhz FSB, & hit ~197mhz/200mhz possible on my RAM, & STAY STABLE!

:)

* Stability was the MAIN issue, & then getting as close as I could to the memory I have's potential...

APK

P.S.=> Tell me more in detail, in what you think is bad about "fractional multiplier's use" if you will... can always use input/feedback/experienced opinions, etc. et al... apk
 
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Maybe... & thanks!

(For me, that is "a look @ the future" 4 years off or so into the distance here...)

:)

* I only buy, on average, once every 4 years or so... & the setup in my sig is only 5 months old now, or near to it, as is...

Anyhow/anyways -> GOOD THREAD!

I went from:

2400mhz stock ->
2592.5mhz o/c myself

Up to 2752.4mhz STABLE + 197/200mhz on RAM (in 100F ambient no less, during the Summer 2006 "HeatWave")!

(Via your guy's help in the memory "physics" area, & now I understand it better... & found a GOOD multithreaded code based benchmark, as test in ScienceMark 2.0 to check your stability w/ as well! BONUS...)

APK

P.S.=> POGE & OTHERS: Tell me more in detail, in what you think is bad about "fractional multiplier's use" if you will... can always use input/feedback/experienced opinions, etc. et al... apk
 
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i had the same board as that in my old a64 sys.it is a great oc'ing board.i had nothing really to do it justice tho'.
 

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i had the same board as that in my old a64 sys.it is a great oc'ing board.i had nothing really to do it justice tho'.

If you're speaking to me, thanks... I like it well enough!

I could use better RAM though!

IMO & those of others? It is "choking me" from getting an even better score on ScienceMark 2.0 & overclock that is stable over the long-term as well...

It's the conclusion that others came to here (Ketxxx, Tatty One, & POGE) & I tend to think these guys know what they're doing!

Better RAM (possibly ECC type, because those Opteron 165 "dualcore" CPU's get the better of mine consistently thru the ScienceMark 2.0 benchmark test/shootout we are having (where you just passed me by the way, good job) & look like "THE" AMD dualcore CPU to have for overclocking & just general performance bang-for-the-buck).

:)

* For now though? Well, we "make do w/ what we have here"...

I have to, & this is/was a great learning experience (now, imo @ least? I can overclock as well as anyone needs to & understand the process & its mechanics firmly enough thanks to good guidance I got here).

APK
 

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P.S.=> POGE & OTHERS: Tell me more in detail, in what you think is bad about "fractional multiplier's use" if you will... can always use input/feedback/experienced opinions, etc. et al... apk

See my other post. :)

Poge said:
Running on a half multiplier is bad. Its just like running your memory on a divider. It leaves your CPU tapping its foot while your memory is trying to catch up. Here is why.

When you run your memory 1:1 it works like this:

FSB x Multi = CPU Speed and CPU Speed / Multi = Ram Speed (1:1)

When you run your memory on a divider it works like this:

FSB x Multi = CPU Speed and (CPU Speed / Multi) / Memory Divider = Memory Speed (Not 1:1, leaves your CPU tapping its foot.)

When running your CPU on a half multiplier it works like this, similar to a memory divider. For some reason, when dividing the CPU Speed by the Multi to get the memory speed, it goes up to the next highest multi. The half multi doesnt come into effect on your memory.

FSB x Multi = CPU Speed and (CPU Speed / Multi + .5) = Memory Speed (Not 1:1, leaves your CPU tapping its foot.
 

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See my other post. :)

Got ya, & Tatty One pretty much seconds what you wrote (albeit, to me in "PM")... & that it is NOT a "natural clockstate" for CPU's either.

:)

* I am going to try out 12x multiplier today by 225-235mhz & see what happens!

I don't expect much more outta this rig than what I am doing thusfar w/ your guys' assist, due to the RAM I have "holding me back" etc. & the fact I could not hold it stable thru ScienceMark 2.0 with that multiplier in place for a complete default run thru it... it turned out to not only be a GOOD benchmark test, but also a decent stability test of an overclock as well (bonus - 2 for the price of 1, out of 1 program)...

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P.S.=> I stepped back down to a solid multiplier for now (11x rather than 11.5x) & am getting 2750.1mhz as my overclock & 195/200mhz RAM speed recovered due to what Tatty One & yourself POGE have suggested here regarding "fractional multipliers" usage & why it is not good to use...

Thus, so far @ those settings?

It has run stable all thru the nite on Folding@Home, & that is a decent indicator of stability imo @ least, as well (since I use the console mode version's "-forceasm" commandline switch)... apk
 
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CPU-z 1.35 CPU mhz results (Using 226 FSB x 12 multiplier):



CPU-z 1.35 RAM mhz results (Using 226 FSB x 12 multiplier):



* This is the ONLY part of it I am "not liking", in that it only gains me back ~181mhz of 200mhz rated speed of this RAM... increasing the FSB in later tests coming up SHOULD buy some of this back for me (using 11x multiplier by 248-250 FSB got me 195-197/200mhz here).

ScienceMark 2.0 result (stable no less, temp. is better @ this part of day (a.m.)) using 226 FSB x 12 multiplier:



:)

OVERALL, so far, so good as far as stability is concerned @ least, but LOW ScienceMark 2.0 score there (I hit 1390-1401 yesterday using 11x multiplier by 248-250 FSB, & got FAR closer to the mhz-speed of my RAM total potential of 200mhz (195-197/200mhz)...

I will push to 227-> 228 -> 229 -> 230 -> 231mhz etc. & see what can pass thru the ScienceMark 2.0 test, stable, & run my "Folding@Home" stable overnite as well once I hit a spot in 12x multiplier based settings that gets back 190-194mhz of my total 200mhz RAM mhz speed potential possible...

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CPU-z 1.35 229 FSB by 12x multiplier CPU-mhz:



CPU-z 1.35 229 FSB by 12x multiplier RAM-mhz:



* Getting CLOSER here now, raised RAM-mhz from ~181 -> ~184... next jump or two on the FSB should do it, provided it stays stable on the ScienceMark 2.0 results (which went up also of course)...

(Yesterday, you can note I was getting FAR "tighter" RAM scores (195-197/200mhz possible for DDR-400 speeds)... this is the ONLY part bugging me, & of course, now lower ScienceMark 2.0 scores!)

So far @ least - I am SURE increasing the FSB will counter both... question is, will it yield as high of a ScienceMark 2.0 score, & will I get nearer to the 200mhz RAM speeds!

ScienceMark 2.0 results using 229 FSB by 12x multiplier:



:)

APK

P.S.=> Off I go to try 230mhz & beyond FSB x 12 multipliers... & hopefully, I get my RAM-mhz speed up to 190-194 ranges @ least & that ScienceMark 2.0 score up around 1390-1401 like I got yesterday using 11x multipliers by 248-250mhz FSB... apk
 

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See my subject-line/title above, & the results below: Trade-offs appear to abound when doing this for me, in deciding where I gain more in speed of:

CPU-mhz (BETTER now on 12x (~2772mhz CPU) vs. 12x multipliers used (~ 2753mhz CPU)) - definitely in favor of 12x multiplier here, by a 20 point pop!

RAM-mhz (take big hit here doing 185/200mhz using 12x multipliers, vs. 195-197/200mhz using 11x-11.5 solid OR fractional multipliers)

&

For my ScienceMark 2.0 results (which scored 1401 using 11.5x "fractional multiplier" & hit 2752mhz speeds on CPU & the 197/200mhz RAM mhz speed vs. 11x solid multiplier hit 2750mhz speeds on CPU, & the 195/200mhz RAM mhz speed, & now using 12x multipliers - you can see the results below):

CPU-z 1.35 CPU-mhz result (using 12x multiplier by 231mhz FSB):



CPU-z 1.35 RAM-mhz result (using 12x multiplier by 231mhz FSB)::



ScienceMark 2.0 score (using 12x multiplier by 231mhz FSB):



:)

* 232mhz FSB by 12x multiplier won't complete the ScienceMark 2.0 tests (fails on Primordia by 2nd round citing oddly scientifically notation bound numbers & progress bar ceases forward motion & counts, stuck on loop #2 endlessly - thus, indicative of instability imo & I can't go past there...)

APK

P.S.=> Your thoughts about my findings are appreciated guys!

I.E.-> I can score 9 points (nearly 10) HIGHER on ScienceMark 2.0 using 11x-11.5x multipliers x 248-250 FSB, & get close overall RAM rated speeds (197/200mhz total possible)

vs.

12x multipliers by 231mhz limit I now show here, which give me a HIGHER CPU-mhz rating by 20 points, but slow up my RAM to only 185/200mhz possible + a lower ScienceMark 2.0 score by nearly 10 points!

Tough call imo! How about you guys??

QUESTION:

Anything I can do to get MORE outta the RAM-mhz part - like additional tightenings of the timing chain for it above & beyond what I have now (it will NOT take over 2.6v, tried that yesterday, to escape using "AUTO" BIOS setting)... apk
 
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The only reason a 12x multiplier would be better is if your ram cant handle an 11x multiplier or if it allows you to not run on a divider. Since its obviosly not going to let you run your memory 1:1, it doesnt really matter if you run at 11x or 12x, do whatever allows you to run your memory and cpu at faster sheer mhz. Just steer clear of the half multi. :)

I have a spare dfi nf4 sli-d motherboard if your interested in trading. Its a much better overclocker than your motherboard. I just have two and I want to experiment with other boards. Let me know. :)

Here it is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136158

I'm willing to bet big money that you could get your ram running 1:1 with this board, or at more desired speeds. It has a lot more divider settings, and tons more options. :D
 

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POGE said:
The only reason a 12x multiplier would be better is if your ram cant handle an 11x multiplier or if it allows you to not run on a divider.

Aha, so, I was potentially doing BETTER using the 11x (not 11.5 fractional) multiplier then... higher ScienceMark 2.0 scores by 5-7 solid points using SOLID multiplier (and 10 using the FRACTIONAL 11.5x one), & also 195/200mhz RAM speed regained!

POGE said:
Since its obviosly not going to let you run your memory 1:1, it doesnt really matter if you run at 11x or 12x, do whatever allows you to run your memory and cpu at faster sheer mhz. Just steer clear of the half multi. :)

Got ya, I did, & went back to "SOLID" 11x multiplier rates & got 2750.1mhz or so (around SAME sciencemark scores though, maybe a BIT better on 12x by 5-7 points or so using 12x multiplier).

1:1 DDR-400 non-divider based speed of RAM is impossible here, that much I know (using default 5x HTT/LDT)... tried it, failed @ bootup.

POGE said:
I have a spare dfi nf4 sli-d motherboard if your interested in trading. Its a much better overclocker than your motherboard. I just have two and I want to experiment with other boards. Let me know. :)

Here it is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136158&ATT=13-136-158&CMP=OTC-Froogle

Ah, no... I will stick by this beastie, it is a decent mobo imo @ least & does the job... it's MORE MY RAM (lol, dammit!) imo & many of yours, holding me "down" here.

:(

APK

P.S.=> * QUESTION (again):

Do you think there is/are ANY MORE possible "Ram memory timing-chain" tightenings adjustments I can pull, just to TRY to get "MORE ROI" back on the RAM-mhz CPU-z results noted?

The lower 11x mult. did better on that (195/200mhz regained), whereas the 12x mult only gained 185/200mhz (not as "tight")... although, 12x does show one HELL of a CPU-mhz gain (this I like for certain I can assure you)...

Thanks for feedback (Ketxxx, this may be YOUR arena of specialty)... apk
 

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One thing you said bothered me... "using default 5x HTT/LDT"?! You should have it set to 4x! It will run your HTT to fast if you dont. :(

About memory... You can go three ways really.

1. Loosen timings and try to get more mhz on your memory, and maybe even try for 1:1 with a 12x multi.

2. Leave them.

3. Tighten them and tweak them for more points once you've found your maximum stable overclock.

What is your memory and overclock currently at? (sorry youve changed it a lot, hard to keep up ;))
 

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POGE said:
One thing you said bothered me... "using default 5x HTT/LDT"?! You should have it set to 4x! It will run your HTT to fast if you dont. :(

I can try it @ 4x I suppose, I know it won't "cut it" @ 5x default LDT/HTT...

:)

* To do that, do I drop my RAM timings back to defaults, etc. (voltages are already "AUTO", since my Corsair DDR-400/PC-3200 won't take higher than 2.6v period, not even 2.65v)?

POGE said:
About memory... You can go three ways really.

1. Loosen timings and try to get more mhz on your memory, and maybe even try for 1:1 with a 12x multi.

2. Leave them.

3. Tighten them and tweak them for more points once you've found your maximum stable overclock.

On #1 - nope, that I am TRYING to avoid!

(I.E.-> Loosening them SO much, I lose Memory->FSB->CPU transfers speeds etc. (DMA for drivers &/or AMD HyperTransport CPU-> Memory Access help, notwitstanding etc.) as well as the "ROI" on the 200mhz DDR-400 rated possible RAM speed (get closer using lower 11x mult. than 12x mult. here - apparently, this IS the tradeoff using divider type thinking going DDR-333 as I have or had to)).

On #2 - I think this 12x mulitiplier may be "The Way" to go, because of the excellent CPU-mhz pop I get (20 points over 11x solid multiplier, & maybe 5-7 points higher on ScienceMark 2.0).

So far today, not high point of heatwave yet (pre-noonish time here), it is holding STABLE & SOLID! Rest of the day & F@H running will tell the story on that part, should be ok imo!

On #3 - hence, my question in my P.S. last post, & in this one too!

POGE said:
What is your memory and overclock currently at? (sorry youve changed it a lot, hard to keep up ;))

CPU-z 1.35 result enough? Let me know if you need more:



APK

P.S.=> That would be a PAIN, resetting back memory stuff in BIOS to defaults... but one I am willing to go thru (I just have to write down all my timings in my BIOS I used so far in the "memory-timings-chain" stuff is all, to restore them if needed)... & please, note my last question in my last posts' P.S. bottom section, if you would, thanks!

HERE IT IS AGAIN FOR YOUR REFERENCE:

QUESTION (again):

Do you think there is/are ANY MORE possible "Ram memory timing-chain" tightenings adjustments I can pull, just to TRY to get "MORE ROI" back on the RAM-mhz CPU-z results noted?

The lower 11x mult. did better on that (195/200mhz regained), whereas the 12x mult only gained 185/200mhz (not as "tight")... although, 12x does show one HELL of a CPU-mhz gain (this I like for certain I can assure you)...

Thanks for feedback (Ketxxx, this may be YOUR arena of specialty)... apk
 
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Read my edit... but that 5x LDT thing is still bothering me! Whenever you have your FSB overclocked you should run your LDT at 4x! Didnt I teach you about that?!

Edit: BTW these would make you a very happy man:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220009

As far as tightening your memory, go into your bios, set the CAS to 2 and see if that boots. If it does, and its stable thats great. If it doesn't, set it back to 2.5. Messing with memory timings are really guess and check, from my experience. Do the same with the rest of your timings.
 
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Read my edit... but that 5x LDT thing is still bothering me! Whenever you have your FSB overclocked you should run your LDT at 4x! Didnt I teach you about that?!

Yes, you did... but, "noob" stage was then, this is now (elevated & now more enlightened memory-timing-chain to O/C Cpu rates noob!)...

POGE said:

Maybe... but I am sticking by this mobo, thanks though... what you CAN point me to? BETTER OVERCLOCKING RAM!

(I will need & get it one day, to replace this Corsair DDR-400 "matched pair" 2.256mb stick setup I have now - it is NOT overclocker-ready RAM imo!)

Ah (edit part) NOW I see a link for RAM!!! Cool... it was a DFI mobo before above!

POGE said:
As far as tightening your memory, go into your bios, set the CAS to 2 and see if that boots. If it does, and its stable thats great. If it doesn't, set it back to 2.5. Messing with memory timings are really guess and check, from my experience. Do the same with the rest of your timings.

I figured this was how it was going to be... trial & error, but now, I think we ARE getting to where this machine is @ its "optimal balance" in terms of CPU-mhz & also RAM-mhz return using "divider thinking" (DDR-333 down from DDR-400 in BIOS & memory timing-chain adjusts too)...

Above all - thanks for ALL of your guys' help!

:)

* It's been fun, & a productive learning experience in an area I let go MASSIVELY slack the past 3-5 years now (hardware thinking on PC's)...

APK

P.S.=> Good thing you guys are patient, lol... hopefully, this entire thread will work as a guideline for others w/ similar Athlon 64 x2 based DualCore rigs too! apk
 
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That link IS better overclocking ram! LOL! Check the link. ;)

BTW, that 5x LDT is still worrying me! You said in your post that you were running it at 5x when you tested to see if your memory could handle 1:1! Why?! Whenever your rig is overclocked it should be at 4x! Sorry but this is just frustrating me.. :S
 
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