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Thats SATA mode. IF it was in IDE mode, it would have been closer to the Ultra DMA bar.
 
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heres my single disc in ahci mode.

I notice its pretty consistent and not too many ups/downs.
 

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... So guys, Hawk, ladies, gentlemen... Is my HDD actually in AHCI mode now then? And if so, why is that stupid Intel thing popping up during POST telling me no AHCI Bios is installed?

Is it because i have the SATA plugged into the Gigabyte SATA slots and the Gigabyte SATA drivers installed as opposed to the Intel SATA ones? I've noticed that this post-bootup thing only shows up when i have 'AHCI MODE' set to 'AHCI' in bios, but if i disable that, and set the Onboard Ctrl Mode to AHCI, it doesnt show up, however i have no CD Drive? :S

Well, let me know guys, and thanks for stickin with me for so long!

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Huxley2k7 said:
There is no jumper to remove, unless i physically remove the entire socket...

So what is that score? Is my HD in AHCI/SATA mode then?
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Thats about as fast as a single drive is going to get.:p

Your in sata2. Look at Tigger's bench. ^
 
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Huxley2k7 said:
... So guys, Hawk, ladies, gentlemen... Is my HDD actually in AHCI mode now then? And if so, why is that stupid Intel thing popping up during POST telling me no AHCI Bios is installed?

Is it because i have the SATA plugged into the Gigabyte SATA slots and the Gigabyte SATA drivers installed as opposed to the Intel SATA ones? I've noticed that this post-bootup thing only shows up when i have 'AHCI MODE' set to 'AHCI' in bios, but if i disable that, and set the Onboard Ctrl Mode to AHCI, it doesnt show up, however i have no CD Drive? :S

Well, let me know guys, and thanks for stickin with me for so long!

Hux.
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Yes, its AHCI (SATA) mode. Not sure what the deal is at POST, I never got that on my ASUS board.
 
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Yes, its AHCI (SATA) mode. Not sure what the deal is at POST, I never got that on my ASUS board.
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ZOMFG OMG LEIK WTF ISIHTINCINN!?!?!? You sure its defo in SATA/AHCI mode? Your not just tellin me that to shut me up, huh? :ohwell:

Also, does your Asus have an intel chip?
 
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ZOMFG OMG LEIK WTF ISIHTINCINN!?!?!? You sure its defo in SATA/AHCI mode? Your not just tellin me that to shut me up, huh? :ohwell:

Also, does your Asus have an intel chip?
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LOL, no I'm not telling you just to shut you up/close the thread. If it was still in IDE mode, your HD tach results would have been significantly lower (think I was getting like 115-120 when my drives were in IDE mode).

As far as my Asus, yes it has the Intel ICH7R SB (if thats what you meant).
 
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LOL, no I'm not telling you just to shut you up/close the thread. If it was still in IDE mode, your HD tach results would have been significantly lower (think I was getting like 115-120 when my drives were in IDE mode).

As far as my Asus, yes it has the Intel ICH7R SB (if thats what you meant).
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LOL, no I'm not telling you just to shut you up/close the thread. If it was still in IDE mode, your HD tach results would have been significantly lower (think I was getting like 115-120 when my drives were in IDE mode).

As far as my Asus, yes it has the Intel ICH7R SB (if thats what you meant).
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Woooo hoooooooooo. Although, i shouldn't be celebratin' just yet. I am still in need of you guys' expertise and advice!

So! As you have all confirmed, it is running in SATA/AHCI mode. Which means, the Slipstreamed XP SP2 /w my GIgabyte SATA drivers install worked, right? ALl while in AHCI mode. Okay, so if thats the case, then does that mean my HDD is always running in that SATA mode now until i re-install my OS again?

Reason i ask: My Bios has two options that correspond to AHCI. The 'Onboard CTRL Mode' which can be set to AHCI/IDE/RAID-IDE. And the 'AHCI Mode' which can be set to AHCI or Disabled.

Setting the 'AHCI Mode' to AHCI, results in that Intel BIOS screen on post, telling me 'No AHCI Bios is Installed'. If i Disable this, but leave the Onboard CTRL Mode at AHCI, the Intel Bios post screen does not show up, instead, a Gigabyte SATA2/RAID Controller screen does, which highlights my HDD and SONY DVD RW drive in green and blue. I don't know what this means, but im gonna guess - The INTEL post screen, represents the INTEL AHCI mode (Turning on AHCI Mode to AHCI in bios, plugging the SATA cable into the Orange slots on the mobo, and installing Intel AHCI drivers during OS setup). While the other post-RAID/AHCI/SATA controller screen, with Gigabyte written all over it, represents the Gigabyte controller method (Disabling 'AHCI Mode', turnin on AHCI in the Onboard CTRL mode, plugging sata cables into the PURPLE 'Gsata' slots and installing the Gigabyte drivers during OS Setup) which is the setup im using.

This, IMO, is why the Intel AHCI bios post screen pops up telling me no Bios is installed since i hadn't actually installed the intel AHCI drivers during OS, instead the Gigabyte ones, which would explain why the Gigabyte AHCI/SATA post screen is showing the WD 5000AKS.

*BREEEEEEEEEEEEEATHE*

However, turning the Onboard SATA/IDE CTRL Mode to AHCI disables my freakin' DVD Drive.... Why!? Also, when i have this turned on to AHCI but have AHCI Mode disabled, it starts detecting loads of IDE controllers and results in all this crap in my Device Manager (SEE PIC) i think it may be due to the intel drivers / motherboard drivers i have to install - which leads me to my next question. What drivers DO i have to install now exactly? It's all so confusing.

AGain thanks so much for all the help! I think im finally getting to the bottom of this! 2 Weeks of perseverance! I need rest!

Thanks.
 

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Ok, I've done a little of your homework. Have a read here, particularly from post #10. Theres a couple of links in the thread you may want to check out.

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Ok, I've done a little of your homework. Have a read here, particularly from post #10. Theres a couple of links in the thread you may want to check out.

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Thanks Hawk, interesting. Believe me, i've scoured Google to the core for all the AHCI/965/DS3/SATA bla bla combinations. Somehow didn't come across that one though. Still, those guys seem to be having problems initiating AHCI/SATA mode, whereas i thought we established i'd got over that hurdle? Also, they always refer to a Floppy Disk, which is something i cannot do.
  • I guess my questions now are, do i install the Intel Chipset drivers for my Motherboard at windows?
  • Do i need to install the RAID/SATA drivers again when i get to Windows after installing them during OS setup?
  • What Bios settings should i settle with?
  • Will the IDE controllers auto-installing affect my HDD in SATA mode?

Also, can you/anyone explain why the DVDRW drive stops working when the Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode is set to AHCI? Seem's i can't have them both running at the same time.

Thanks again Hawk and all.
 
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Huxley2k7 said:
Also, can you/anyone explain why the DVDRW drive stops working when the Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode is set to AHCI? Seem's i can't have them both running at the same time.
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Is this a SATA DVD Drive, or IDE?
 
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Hawk1 said:
Is this a SATA DVD Drive, or IDE?
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It's IDE, which pretty much answers the question itself really. In which case, how can i get that to work at the same time? Or would i need to buy a SATA DVD drive?

Last few questions mate! I'm assuming your not too sure about my previous ones which is fine, me neither! :p

Okay, well, i went into Bios again, and switched the Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode to IDE. This shows up my CD Drive, and, apparently, after running HD Tach, im still getting the same 'score' (About 248Mb/s) as i was in AHCI mode? How do you explain that then? Is it in SATA mode no matter what now? It is, afterall, in the Gigabyte SATA controller sockets. Any ideas?
 
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Go back into your device manager and change the view to devices by connection. See where/which controllers your HDD and DVD show up in. If its listed under an UltraATA/IDE Channel, the drives in IDE.
 
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Go back into your device manager and change the view to devices by connection. See where/which controllers your HDD and DVD show up in. If its listed under an UltraATA/IDE Channel, the drives in IDE.
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I've attached a picture, tell me what you think.

As far as i can see, it seems the Gigabyte Controller is controlling them both??? :confused:

Let me know what you think. At the moment the Bios is set to IDE.
 

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This is with Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode set to AHCI, but the AHCI Mode disabled (The Intel one, i think. )
 
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Well, I'm stumped now. This would be a better place to start troubleshooting. From the first post in this thread, it looks like your HDD IS in AHCI mode. Go through that thread and see if anyone else had similar issues as you. Good luck.

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Well, I'm stumped now. This would be a better place to start troubleshooting. From the first post in this thread, it looks like your HDD IS in AHCI mode. Go through that thread and see if anyone else had similar issues as you. Good luck.

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Thanks Hawk. Checked out the link, i'll try those suggestions out tomorrow when i got some more time. I got to go to bed soon, i spent too many long nights into the early hours of the morning working on this crap. Thanks for all your help.

BTW - How come my HDtach results are all jagged while the other dudes are a lot more straight? :)
 
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Check this shit out:



That is with the SATA cable now plugged into the Intel ports (The orange ones) and 'AHCI Mode' - Disabled leaving the 'Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode' as AHCI. That result, is indeed, IDE mode.

Now, with the cable in the Intel port, and AHCI ENABLED in Bios, during the Intel post screen, it says 'AHCI is Installed' as opposed to 'Not' installed when plugged into the GSATA ports. This results in the bSod. So, is that because i have not installed the Intel AHCI drivers during OS installation? It has to be! Meaning, if i can install the Intel drivers during OS reinstall, i can then set the 'AHCI Mode' to Enabled, and leave the Onboard Ctrl Mode to IDE, so i get the HDD in AHCI mode while still having access to my Sony on a diffeent controller in IDE!? Can someone please confirm this for me, am i onto somethin?
 
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Check this shit out. Intel matrix storage manager. 64k stripe. Ever consider raid?:;) This thing will defrag a 500 gig raid array in about 2 minutes, tops. lol
 

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Nice! That average blows my 51MB/s average out of the water! Granted I have 2 partitions on a Sgate 7200.9 500gb, the best I've ever scored in HD tach is 54mb/s. My burst is around 230mb/s iirc, but my drive starts at about 65mb/s and ends at about 35mb/s. LoL...I'm ashamed!
 
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Kursah said:
Nice! That average blows my 51MB/s average out of the water! Granted I have 2 partitions on a Sgate 7200.9 500gb, the best I've ever scored in HD tach is 54mb/s. My burst is around 230mb/s iirc, but my drive starts at about 65mb/s and ends at about 35mb/s. LoL...I'm ashamed!
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Thanks man. Thats not a bad score at all for single drive.;) Looking in your system specs, I noticed you've got drive temps posted. What do you use to see that?
 
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Everest, Speedfan both show my Drive temps...they've dropped some since I last updated my specs though since the cooler weather. I'm at about 31 idle, 34 load
 
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Kursah said:
Everest, Speedfan both show my Drive temps...they've dropped some since I last updated my specs though since the cooler weather. I'm at about 31 idle, 34 load
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Everest home? Or that everest pro thingy you have to buy?
 
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Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 | Stock Cooling
Memory TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v | 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16)
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 4070 JetStream 12GB | CPU-based Intel Iris XE + RTX 3070 8GB 150W
Storage 4TB SP UD90 NVME, 960GB SATA SSD, 2TB HDD | 1TB Samsung OEM NVME SSD + 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVME SSD
Display(s) Acer 28" 4K VG280K x2 | 16" 2560x1600 built-in
Case Corsair 600C - Stock Fans on Low | Stock Metal/Plastic
Audio Device(s) Aune T1 mk1 > AKG K553 Pro + JVC HA-RX 700 (Equalizer APO + PeaceUI) | Bluetooth Earbuds (BX29)
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Keyboard HyperX Alloy Core RGB | Built in Keyboard (Lenovo laptop KB FTW)
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Both have worked for me, I have yet to find an HDD that isn't detected and displaying temp in Everest Home, Pro, Speedfan.

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