No Shortage of NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Cards at MSRP in the USA

[Crackong]

Saw some posts claiming many FE cards are marked 2231 = manufactured mid 2022

Nvidia started stockpiling these dies in mid 2022 and wait and wait until now to give you the 4070.

So of cause there is no shortage right now.
These are the left overs from the start of the whole Ada manufacturing cycle.

 

[nguyen]

Yeah it was a hard choice, but I went with it for the DLSS3. The power draw on the 7900xt is higher. Plus, If the 7900xt was 799 then I probably would have bought it. 799 was my high limit.. lol

DLSS3 Frame Generation is pretty sweet, enabling FG with v-sync would cut down system power consumption significantly too because GPU+CPU don't have to work hard, and you still get to enjoy high refresh gaming

 

[katzi]

the pricing in New Zealand and Australia is revolting.

As usual, the rest of the world is subsidizing lower pricing for the US

 

[Mindweaver]

DLSS3 Frame Generation is pretty sweet, enabling FG with v-sync would cut down system power consumption significantly too because GPU+CPU don't have to work hard, and you still get to enjoy high refresh gaming

My nephew bought his TUF RTX 4070 Ti a few weeks ago. All he has talked about is how DLSS3 frame generation and Path Tracing are amazing. The crazy part is I just bought this 3070 that I'm going to put in my daughters rig but I paid close to the 4070 price. I actually had the Asus dual 4070 in my basket.. lol but looking at reviews the jump from 4070 to 4070 Ti was just to good. The TUF 4070 is 80 dollars over msrp. So, 680 to 799 was a small enough gap for the performance increase now that I'm gaming on a 1440p 144hz monitor.

 

[T_Zel]

the pricing in New Zealand and Australia is revolting.

As usual, the rest of the world is subsidizing lower pricing for the US

I'm Australian, and this is a pretty dumb take. US prices are pre-tax because their tax laws are all up to shit and vary state by state, whereas our prices include GST. The Australia tax is normally around another 10% on top of that which is understandable given the extra costs of shipping, warehousing and the actual liveable wage people get paid here.

Though it is also unfortunately normal to see another ~10% Nvidia tax put on top of everything else that you don't typically get with AMD. Considering I helped an acquaintance in his early 20s with advice on a PC, and he literally did not even know that anyone besides Nvidia even made GPUs it's pretty clear why.

 

[lemoncarbonate]

US$ 740 is the lowest price for the most basic 4070 model here.
6800XT is at US$ 550.

At this point, buying last gen's graphic card looks like a much better choice.

 

[Why_Me]

wrong. in germany it costs 553 euro. the rest is sales tax. nvidia is not charging you that sales tax, your government is.

i got news for you, we in the US don't pay $600 either. if i were to go and buy this trash GPU right now, i'd have to pay around $650. we get charged sales tax too. just nowhere near as much as you do.

the day europeans stop crying about the sales taxes that they themselves vote for is the day hell freezes over.

I live in the US and I don't pay sales tax. It depends on what state you live in.

the pricing in New Zealand and Australia is revolting.

As usual, the rest of the world is subsidizing lower pricing for the US

NZ VAT is 15%. Socialism isn't cheap.

 

[kryssN]

In Norway and Poland cards are in stock at every retailer.
Multiple SKUs and almost all +50 in stock for under 700€.
Probably the one bought were mostly by scalpers just i case and few by normal people.
Due to that I will hołd off my purchase and wait for Outlet returns from scalpers for that 50-100€ cheaper.

I like to think that we will sooner see reversal in nvidia pricing and price drops by another 50-100€.
This is the worst 70 tier card in last decade and they have highest margins on it too, it being at best 60 tier size chip.
So they have big margins on it where they lower prices and still make good money off of it.

Not to forget rest of AMD cards are releasing in mid June and Intel Q2 2024 with double the size chip.
We may see some price development those times too so not to eager to jump on a overpriced 4060 disguised as a 4070.
Cause AMD also have where to go with their prices.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Well, not only is it an overpriced turd, I think people are also tired of getting the 70 series cards 6 months later, before, ironically, waiting for another 9 and getting the 5000 series 70!

But I digress, delays are to be expected when you take a couple of months to plot on exactly how to screw over your customers, oh, sorry, "consumer"

 

[Deleted member 185088]

I think it would better to stop focusing on the US market, and either, add in the US in the title, or better give examples of different prices/MSRPs in few markets in Asia, Europe and North America. As the MSRP is not the same everywhere.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Plus 6800XT has a record low price and 16GB of VRAM. Very competitive with 4070.

In the US yes, not so much in other places, where it in general isn't even available.

I think it would better to stop focusing on the US market, and either, add in the US in the title, or better give examples of different prices/MSRPs in few markets in Asia, Europe and North America. As the MSRP is not the same everywhere.

It's impossible to do a global comparison though. Updated the headline for you though.
Besides, no other countries tend to sell whatever product it is, for MSPR, unless it's a product from a company in that country that sets its own pricing.
In this case, Nvidia's partners didn't get to decide on the base pricing, as Nvidia set the MSRP.

 

[AnotherReader]

For once, the 4070 is selling for close to the US MSRP here, and it is still in stock a day after launch.

 

[mb194dc]

It begins. Cards will need to fall back to 2019 prices before the market recovers. Years in the doldrums coming up.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Just a really efficient 3080 with 20% more vram for a 100 usd less...... The only major difference and this is key I guess is people can actually buy it at msrp and don't have to wait nearly two years for it but even that's also kinda sad.

For all the people who skipped RDNA2/Ampere I wonder how they feel about it... I also wonder how we will look back at it in 2 years.... Everybody hated the 2070 at first but I see an awful lot of people with them.

Coming from owning a much earlier card and a current laptop 2060 owner, it's Never going to be Yes, not even the laptop version, not even if That is called the 4080, no thanks.

To me it was on the cards, soon most 1080p gamers won't Need anything but a CPU/Apu board maybe memory and they're off, Nvidia are just trying to move they're entire stall, above that price and this 4070 is still in Enthusiast territory and look at the mixed response, I ponder what a 4060 launch might look like, or more importantly the 4050 Mainstream, Damn.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

It begins. Cards will need to fall back to 2019 prices before the market recovers. Years in the doldrums coming up.

Hard to say.... the last generation started out promising with the 3080 10G at $699 and the 6800XT at $649 but that quickly went to hell. For all we know some other silicon shortage will hit 12-18 months from now making all these current prices look cheap.


I think bottom line and this really hasn't changed much for the past decade if someone needs a gpu buy the best one you can afford if you're happy with what you have don't upgrade....

Needing a gpu and waiting 6-12-18 months for better prices isn't the way....

Graphics cards are a luxury item to begin with so unless you're making money with them need is a pretty strong word to begin with.

Coming from owning a much earlier card and a current laptop 2060 owner, it's Never going to be Yes, not even the laptop version, not even if That is called the 4080, no thanks.

You did pick up a 7900XT and that is equally overpriced even at it's new slightly cheaper price so you at least saw some merrit in a current generation card all of them have terrible flagship like price to perfomance levels

I was mostly commenting about who is this card actually for and the only argument I can make and it isn't a good one is 1070 owners and possibly 2070 owners who ignore amd products which is probably most of them.

Personally my gpu would have to die and I literally would have to not be able to spend a hair over 600 usd + tax to buy this.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Hard to say.... the last generation started out promising with the 3080 10G at $699 and the 6800XT at $649 but that quickly went to hell. For all we know some other silicon shortage will hit 12-18 months from now making all these current prices look cheap.


I think bottom line and this really hasn't changed much for the past decade if someone needs a gpu buy the best one you can afford if you're happy with what you have don't upgrade....

Needing a gpu and waiting 6-12-18 months for better prices isn't the way....

Graphics cards are a luxury item to begin with so unless you're making money with them need is a pretty strong word to begin with.


You did pick up a 7900XT and that is equally overpriced even at it's new slightly cheaper price so you at least saw some merrit in a current generation card all of them have terrible flagship like price to perfomance levels

I was mostly commenting about who is this card actually for and the only argument I can make and it isn't a good one is 1070 owners and possibly 2070 owners who ignore amd products which is probably most of them.

Personally my gpu would have to die and I literally would have to not be able to spend a hair over 600 usd + tax to buy this.

I do, if I had to buy Nvidia now it would be 3090Ti, or 4080 ish though It and the 4090 is too expensive for Gaming IMHO even with my 5/6 year upgrade cycle, due to that history we lived, but that's if I HAD too.

I didn't though, and that's largely because I got the 2060 a year post release and now it's Mega supported ass can't do dlss3.

So no Ty this time Nvidia, I bought what I did because my last card mined about half that amount if not more, to put too as well technically, small scale though just the one GPU and I'm talking over the years technically, so by mind juggling I could quite the panic in my brain for buying it, still I'm beyond it's purchasing bean on toast marathon now and eating better again.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I do, if I had to buy Nvidia now it would be 3090Ti, or 4080 ish though It and the 4090 is too expensive for Gaming IMHO even with my 5/6 year upgrade cycle, due to that history we lived, but that's if I HAD too.

I didn't though, and that's largely because I got the 2060 a year post release and now it's Mega supported ass can't do dlss3.

So no Ty this time Nvidia, I bought what I did because my last card mined about half that amount if not more, to put too as well technically, small scale though just the one GPU and I'm talking over the years technically, so by mind juggling I could quite the panic in my brain for buying it, still I'm beyond it's purchasing bean on toast marathon now and eating better again.

OFF topic a bit but the 4080 really should have been $999 although had Nvidia done that both the 7900 series cards would be cheaper so that likely wouldn't change the debate much.

 

[Why_Me]

I do, if I had to buy Nvidia now it would be 3090Ti, or 4080 ish though It and the 4090 is too expensive for Gaming IMHO even with my 5/6 year upgrade cycle, due to that history we lived, but that's if I HAD too.

I didn't though, and that's largely because I got the 2060 a year post release and now it's Mega supported ass can't do dlss3.

So no Ty this time Nvidia, I bought what I did because my last card mined about half that amount if not more, to put too as well technically, small scale though just the one GPU and I'm talking over the years technically, so by mind juggling I could quite the panic in my brain for buying it, still I'm beyond it's purchasing bean on toast marathon now and eating better again.

The 3090 Ti is a horrible buy.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=rtx+3090+ti

RTX 3090 Ti

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=RTX+4080

RTX 4080

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=RTX+4090

RTX 4090

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

The 3090 Ti is a horrible buy.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=rtx+3090+ti

RTX 3090 Ti

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=RTX+4080

RTX 4080

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=RTX+4090

RTX 4090

I did say the 4080 ish too, if I HAD too, the 4070Ti is more my budget but I'll spare the list of aware words my opinion of that entails here.

4080 is too expensive but this generation from NV that would be my minimum spec soooo.

The 3090Ti because Vram and present price.

So definitely not a 70 aeries card.

You do you though, not many of us buy for the same reason or reason's.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

It's impossible to do a global comparison though. Updated the headline for you though.
Besides, no other countries tend to sell whatever product it is, for MSPR, unless it's a product from a company in that country that sets its own pricing.
In this case, Nvidia's partners didn't get to decide on the base pricing, as Nvidia set the MSRP.

Thank you! Just that this site is more global than others, I think it's a good idea to be specific.

As for global prices, it is tricky indeed, maybe we could have something where people can post the price in their respective region/country.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Thank you! Just that this site is more global than others, I think it's a good idea to be specific.

As for global prices, it is tricky indeed, maybe we could have something where people can post the price in their respective region/country.

Feel free to propose it to the management.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I did say the 4080 ish too, if I HAD too, the 4070Ti is more my budget but I'll spare the list of aware words my opinion of that entails here.

4080 is too expensive but this generation from NV that would be my minimum spec soooo.

The 3090Ti because Vram and present price.

So definitely not a 70 aeries card.

You do you though, not many of us buy for the same reason or reason's.

Given the choice even with the power draw differences if the 3090ti was cheaper I would go with it as well..... 12GB is super inadequate for that level of performance. in a couple years the 4070ti is going to be the medium settings King.

At the same time most people don't have the cases or power supplies to support a 3090ti so I get the mentality with the 4070ti even though it's kinda a joke of a card at 800 usd due to vram.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Who in the right mind would buy a card that is way more expensive and also slower than a RTX 3080 card?? WTF nGreedia??