NVIDIAs Desperate Stand

[AMDCam]

I agree with ibiggun. That's why I really don't appreciate ATI's X1800's. They use all of the last-gens stuff, except new architecture. I mean yeah, architecture is important (ATI shows that) but still, I appreciate Nvidia's "mainstream" power. I mean 4x AA 4x AF is all most people are gonna do, and it's almost unnoticable any higher. Plus, who's gonna use a 2###x1### resolution on games? I'd say an average gamer that likes graphics uses 1280x1024, and Nvidia can handle that easily. So even if ATI can handle the extra graphics, who's gonna notice it, let alone use it?

 

[zOaib]

I agree with ibiggun. That's why I really don't appreciate ATI's X1800's. They use all of the last-gens stuff, except new architecture. I mean yeah, architecture is important (ATI shows that) but still, I appreciate Nvidia's "mainstream" power. I mean 4x AA 4x AF is all most people are gonna do, and it's almost unnoticable any higher. Plus, who's gonna use a 2###x1### resolution on games? I'd say an average gamer that likes graphics uses 1280x1024, and Nvidia can handle that easily. So even if ATI can handle the extra graphics, who's gonna notice it, let alone use it?

when nintendo came out , and the sega genesis came out i was like dang nothing can beat these ever , this is the pinnacle of graphics , the holy abode ................. same with what u r saying yes for now 4x AA and 4XAF is all people are using , believe me the games are goign to be getting more demanding in resolution and overall texture filtering ................. your point is sound but u have to realise , the path Ati has taken by producing gpu that can deal hardcore beating , Nvidia is not going to last long they keep focusing mainstream , because Ati can handle mainstream and a little more than that ............... plus i have seen the graphics of a 7800 gtx VS 1800xt , u can notice the quality difference ............... i have used nvidias up until the fx 5700 , my fav was the ti4800 (?) ............... but the day i tried the ati radeon x800 pro ............... i never went back !

 

[AMDCam]

Okay, I get your point, well said. I think we just started trying the other companies at different times. I tried ATI with the 9800, although Nvidia was dominating that class at the time. So I went Nvidia and saw how streamline, feature-full, and how much quality my 6800GT could handle, even though I knew ATI was leading THAT class at the time, but I didn't care because my 9800 sucked (in class) so at first I assumed ATI wasn't that great all-around. But my 6800GT exceeded my expectations and that's the reason I'm sticking with it. I'll probably go back to ATI when the R580 is released, but you gotta admit ATI has been making some horrible mistakes recently. I used to be a hardcore ATI man even before my 9800 Pro (and stood by even stronger when I got it), but watching what ATI was doing when I decided to get my 6800, I pretty quickly changed my team to Nvidia. They really just take turns through the years, I mean the Geforce MX4## series made me despise Nvidia for about 2 years (my old laptop had one in it), but before that I had an old TNT2 Riva that-to this day-is still my favorite card (for the time) ever. The 8-pipeline class Nvidia took the lead in, the 16 pipe class ATI took the lead in, and now altogether Nvidia is ahead (in my opinion) because it told us it would do something and did, unlike ATI has been doing.

 

[zOaib]

Okay, I get your point, well said. I think we just started trying the other companies at different times. I tried ATI with the 9800, although Nvidia was dominating that class at the time. So I went Nvidia and saw how streamline, feature-full, and how much quality my 6800GT could handle, even though I knew ATI was leading THAT class at the time, but I didn't care because my 9800 sucked (in class) so at first I assumed ATI wasn't that great all-around. But my 6800GT exceeded my expectations and that's the reason I'm sticking with it. I'll probably go back to ATI when the R580 is released, but you gotta admit ATI has been making some horrible mistakes recently. I used to be a hardcore ATI man even before my 9800 Pro (and stood by even stronger when I got it), but watching what ATI was doing when I decided to get my 6800, I pretty quickly changed my team to Nvidia.

oh yeah i agree definately , on that part , Ati needs to get there act together specially when it comes to their release dates , cause that could be the downfall of the company

 

[yogurt_21]

Yeah dude, a Ford fan, FINALLY! I'm the ONLY Ford man in my city, mostly because people around here are ignorant, but still. What frame is that 289 in? That's my dream small-block (the hi-po). I got a straight-6 200ci in my '67 stang. Not much to brag about but I really can't afford a V8 in any aspect, although if I could I'd get one in a half a heartbeat.

73' Ford Ranchero 500 400ci holley 600 double pumper, edelbrock aluminum intake, aluminum heads, k&n air intake. 600hp!! and if I keep my foot out of it I've been able to get 15mpg pretty sweet considering with original everything the 2 barrel motocraft only got 8mpg. lol

 

[AMDCam]

wow man. this is an old thread but either way, that's cool. Don't like those huge bodies but you got quite the beast under the hood, and the body just adds to intimidation on that. was the 400ci stock that year? I never even heard of a 400 Ford block (but I know next to nothing about the 70's/80's era cars). What's a double pumper, like a 2 or 4-barrel I assume?

 

[PVTCaboose1337]

First:

I like ATI, but do not find all of the points they made strong. Some in fact seemed dead wrong.

Second:

I was not impressed with how the author presented these slides. This seems like slandering NVIDIA senseless.

 

[Steevo]

Err.

12K on a FX57 w/ 2 7800GTX's in SLI with base settings. 2X256=512

10K on a 4000+ and 1800XT stand alone with base settings. 1X512=512

Still have better image quality.
And I just converted a 17Mb video of my son to a 7Mb so I could email it.

Did I mention that it is quiet?